Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism

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Oh thank Sigmar that we didn't take a reputation hit with the Moot.

Really liking how you're writing Magnus, torroar.

[X] Yes

Triumph's are awesome and I'm not about to turn down one from the most awesome Emperor since Sigmar :)
 
Qeqre said:
Low Piety.

Tzeentch.

GM can write us as the most Pious person ever and have "The forces of Chaos" erupt all over Kislev and us questing to stop it for added irony.

When we switch to the next character, we find out that we're regarded as the second coming of Kul.
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Deadly Snark said:
No, that's not what I meant by we cant afford it.

What I meant is that if we have a son with Ice Magic and well shit goes wrong during the period were we don't control him and even when we do control him, and then Kislev does get destroyed, because the Prophecy turned out to be true. Then the Empire has just lost the bulwark against Chaos and a major ally, which would be bad, and then our Dynasty would be shunned and has a lot of unpleasant things happen to it.
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So basically our only choice is to lobotomize any sons of ours that are born with the ability to use ice magic? And not you know prove them wrong? I also fail to understand how living in the empire means any male child of fredricks with ice magic can lead Kislev to ruin.
 
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The Laurent said:
Change it to purgatory, and there are some religions that actually work like that, sorta.
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Point is that to him sigmar is this guy who cares that we fall asleep in church or that we are a drunkard or that we puked on his temple and beat up the lectors bully son.

Instead of praising us as his champion for smashing a daemon prince in the face and saving an entire province because we felt it was simply thr right thing to do.

Its a simplistic view, one that fits freds simplistic interpretation of religion.
 
nightblade said:
So basically our only choice is to lobotomize any sons of ours that are born with the ability to use ice magic? And not you know prove them wrong?
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We help Kislev as such a character? we're a puppet of Tzeentch and the "traitors" are actually loyalists. We don't help? Kislev falls to the forces of chaos because we didn't send for aid. We ask the other provinces to send for aid? The messages get misplaced into the hands of Beastmen, Norscans and Literate Orcs. We attack Kislev because we "know" we're probably being puppeteered by Tzeentch into attacking traitors who are actually loyalists? Just. As. Planned.

It'll be very hard to play because we're basically asking torroar to screw us/Kislev over.
 
nightblade said:
So basically our only choice is to lobotomize any sons of ours that are born with the ability to use ice magic? And not you know prove them wrong? I also fail to understand how living in the empire means any male child of fredricks with ice magic can lead Kislev to ruin.
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I'm pretty sure Ice Magic is a learned skill, so maybe we can just send any sons of ours to the Magic Colleges and have them trained in one of the other Lores? Actually, how does that work? I remember reading somewhere that Mages can choose which kind of magic they can use, but they can only use one. So, how do they choose which one they use?
 
nightblade said:
So basically our only choice is to lobotomize any sons of ours that are born with the ability to use ice magic? And not you know prove them wrong?
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This is Warhammer, you don't dick around and play chicken with a prophecy.

Let's say that there is a 50% chance of it the prophecy being bullshit, (Even though there hasnt been anything indication of that in canon and frankly it makes no sense for the nation which constantly gets it's ass hammered by Chaos to kill off half of it's revered magic users just for political reasons when said magic users would go a long way of boosting their forces, if this was a more prosperous nation which isnt constantly invaded by Super Vikings then the it's bullshit idea become a lot more workable. But in a Northern Wasteland besieged by enemies like Kislev, cultural norms would emphasise working together and not killing off half of the incredibly powerful Wizards for no gains, ), that is still 50% chance of it being true and us causing Kislev to get stomped for good, which would be bad for the forces of Order.

And in the off chance that it isn't real, Kislev would still believe that it is real and try to kill our Son constantly, souring our relationship with the Bulwark, and sapping the attention and strength of both our realms away from Chaos and wasted on each other.
 
If a male kid shows talent for magic, he's going to have to go to the Magic Colleges post haste.

You don't have to learn Ice Magic. Your daughters don't necessarily either. They just copied their mom enough, and are locked into that course.

You have 'magic' and go to the Magic Colleges to learn how to discipline your mind so you can use a wind.

Unless you're a girl and from Kislev. Or a greenskin, or a Lizardman...eh, you get the point.
 
Deadly Snark said:
This is Warhammer, you don't dick around and play chicken with a prophecy.

Let's say that there is a 50% chance of it the prophecy being bullshit, (Even though there hasnt been anything indication of that in canon and frankly it makes no sense for the nation which constantly gets it's ass hammered by Chaos to kill off half of it's revered magic users just for political reasons when said magic users would go a long way of boosting their forces, if this was a more prosperous nation which isnt constantly invaded by Super Vikings then the it's bullshit idea become a lot more workable. But in a Northern Wasteland besieged by enemies like Kislev, cultural norms would emphasise working together and not killing off half of the incredibly powerful Wizards for no gains, ), that is still 50% chance of it being true and us causing Kislev to get stomped for good, which would be bad for the forces of Order.

And in the off chance that it isn't real, Kislev would still believe that it is real and try to kill our Son constantly, souring our relationship with the Bulwark, and sapping the attention and strength of both our realms away from Chaos and wasted on each other.
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Sure it does. It's called people like power and that it went on long enough that it has been forgotten that it isn't true.
 
@torroar, how do magic-users choose which Wind they use? I mean, I get that our daughters copied their mother, but how does it work for other people, like the mages who presumably are born to commoner or noble parents, with no other magic users around?
 
The main reason I'm pretty sure the prophecy is fake is because prophecies fall under the lore of the heavans. Which Kislev doesn't have access to.
 
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nightblade said:
Sure it does. It's called people like power and that it went on long enough that it has been forgotten that it isn't true.
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Not in a Northern Wasteland short on resources and constantly hammered by enemies. Things like this are also affected by the environment, not just human nature. Rather, it is human nature to adapt to our surroundings.

In a more prosperous, more secure location, what you suggest could happen easily, because they can afford it, because internal threats are more common and more deadly than external ones, thus human nature adapts to taking out the internal threats, because that's what works.

But in a place like Kislev, they cant afford that. External threats are far more common and dangerous than internal ones. Thus, human instinct of survival would shape values and culture into the best way of finding off the external threats and thus insuring the nations and it's people survives against the external threats. In this context, human nature isn't going to allow something as stupid as killing half of your valuable strategic resources of Wizards which are extremely handy against your external threats just because killing them would insure the dominance of one small part of the population and thus not even essential for the internal threats. Unless it was truly necessary.
 
ReaperofInterest said:
@torroar, how do magic-users choose which Wind they use? I mean, I get that our daughters copied their mother, but how does it work for other people, like the mages who presumably are born to commoner or noble parents, with no other magic users around?
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I think that people naturally gravitate towards being better at a specific Wind, but they have the capability to use them all to varying degrees.
 
Ok, it official. I love Moro now. Can we adopt her or something? :D

[x] Yes

Why wouldn't we be cool with this. There was just one problem with the update though. A certain someone who has travelled the world and swings around a halberd wasn't even mentioned. Even if it was just for Magnus to tell her father that she did good she should have got some of the accolades just like our other two friends.
 
Alas, she was most...disciplined for her actions. She absconded with a healthy chunk of Talabeclands military and 20,000 citizens in Flagellants.

Her father was not pleased about her doing that, even if he was happy about the result.

She isn't in Nuln.

She is currently sitting in a room in Talabheim with the doors and windows locked and barred except for servants.

Adolf informed Magnus of this when they exchanged letters.
 
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