Warhammer Fantasy: A Dynasty of Dynamic Alcoholism

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Right so...Gorin's dead...sad

Also all of the stuff, becauseeee shines.

Nice.

Also yeah we really need to give Gargrim a pick me up and stop him from swearing that bleeding oath again, just be satisfied ya mad dwarf.

Oh and

@torroar if I can, did Fred examine the cannon of the sky giants enough to get some notes down for Anna? For possible improvements to our designs things like that.
 
[X] Write in: Garagrim told us himself, before, about how he dreamed of setting his line free from the Slayer's Oath, so that his descendants could be free to contribute to his people in their own ways, with their own talents beyond just fighting. Did Garagrim not think that his father had the same dream, the same wish? That Ungrim did not dream of fulfilling the oath and setting his own son free to rule the Slayer Keep unreservedly?
-[X] Garagrim now has the most solemn of oaths to fulfill, one that was left unspoken: to honor his father's sacrifice and make the most of it. To ensure that his line remains free of the Slayer's Oath, that his son lives free from the Slayer's Oath, and that Garagrim makes the most of that freedom. After all, how much would it pain Ungrim to see his son take the Slayer's Oath once more, and to see Garagrim's future son take up the oath himself, nullifying the sacrifice that he made?
-[X] And Garagrim himself has nothing to be ashamed of. Did he not fight with his all at every opportunity throughout this whole campaign? To be a Slayer is not to promise victory, but to promise to do as much as you can. And Garagrim did make a big difference. He saved Roland's life, who in turn saved Frederick's--which bought time for Ungrim and Fenna to arrive to help defeat Skulltaker. And if Garagrim still thinks that he didn't do well enough, then encourage him to make up for it by being the best king the Slayer Keep has had in generations, no matter how impossible such a task might seem.
 
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Doomed Wombat said:
@torroar if I can, did Fred examine the cannon of the sky giants enough to get some notes down for Anna? For possible improvements to our designs things like that.
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He can give her more information than he otherwise wouldn't be able to, but he wasn't able to mark down the runic designs of the Sky Titans unfortunately. On the other hand, anything is better than nothing.

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Frederick's been informed as to who/what was going on. He's just in that state of it not-quite hitting him just yet. When it does, I expect he will drink quite a lot more than usual. And yes, Skulltaker is horrifically infamous, so he knew of Skulltaker, just not precisely on-sight.
 
Guys I really, really, don't think the "father protects the son" angle is going to work. The idea that "he died for you" would make it worse because he wasn't there to help or even witness his father's doom. The angle we are going to need to go at is that him swearing the oath would completely dishonour his father and undo the doom he had suffered, making it worthless.
 
torroar said:
If you're wondering about the Dragoneater/Hearte Big Name...it's because they fished out the corpses while Frederick was in sleepy healing coma, and the ogres got to eat it. What with them both being dead, and charred by magma, no one...was really willing to touch that stuff. On the other hand, the bones are still there, and taken into safe-keeping by the dwarfs. Because yeah, Magma Dragons aren't...going to melt in Magma, it's in the name. Urgdug got to eat the heart of the one who, you know, still had one. It tasted bad! Skin was almost completely crispy and wholly unusable for anything cool...so they ate it.
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Wonder if there is some hidden trait from eating a heart of a Magma Dragon outside of being a Vampire. If any other race could benefit from that it might be ogres, but then again maybe only Maw ogres.

More importantly the dawi got the bones of two dragons and sure Kragg will using at least part of it to make at least Urgdugs reward for keeping Throne and Book safe.
torroar said:
Oh, yeah, no, he got rid of that thing. It was going to run out of Maw juice eventually anyway and fallen apart, he just pre-empted that.
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He throw it in magma? That was likely the safest choice, just sad he never used it on a magic user beforehand.
torroar said:
1. Uh...Frederick got his entire torso opened up...and then all his organs fell out. Yeah, no, there's still a fuck ton of scarring. Wolfgang was more focused on making sure he would live than making him pretty.
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Fair enough, our own jade wizards back home and Light ofSummer can heal scars themselves over course of a couple years anyway.

Shouldn't be complaining about that when Wolfgang made it sure that Freddy is alive after divine blessing wore off.
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2. Eh, I'll add him.
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No big deal was just curious, not sure what qualifies as a notable kill is all.
torroar said:
3. Sent flying back home to roost/eaten for rations/died in the bad conditions of the fighting and what not.
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Fair enough, can likely get more later when we restore money anyhow.

@torroar just came to me where are the rune golems and Ancestor golem in army list? Did Kragg put them on standby or something? Also will they remain in mountain since they technically belong to this hold? Also wonder if Anvils of Doom will remain or be taken back to capital for him to use.
 
torroar said:
He can give her more information than he otherwise wouldn't be able to, but he wasn't able to mark down the runic designs of the Sky Titans unfortunately. On the other hand, anything is better than nothing.
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We'd have been able to use the runic designs!

Huh...

Eh, I'm sure we could put a bounty up that we're in the market for one.

Massgamer said:
just came to me where are the rune golems and Ancestor golem in army list?
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They're not he mentioned neither they nor the anvil were in the army list a few pages back.

Slaggedfire said:
Did he leave witnesses and was his appearance noted down?
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Sure unstoppable Bloodletter, flaming sword, cloak made of skulls.

Pretty iconic.
 
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we should make a point about how his name is reflective of his being now. He is the first Ironfist in generations that has lived to see "the oath fulfilled." not sure how to incorporate it, but there it is. Whats the vote looking like?
 
Canadian Patriot said:
Guys I really, really, don't think the "father protects the son" angle is going to work. The idea that "he died for you" would make it worse because he wasn't there to help or even witness his father's doom. The angle we are going to need to go at is that him swearing the oath would completely dishonour his father and undo the doom he had suffered, making it worthless.
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Well said my friend.

Dwarves care about one thing above all. Honor. Instead of focusing his fathers honor we should focus on HIS honor.
 
Massgamer said:
Ironguts and Ogre warriors can possibly be reducated like other Maw ogres but the two Firebellies might be better off sent home.
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I wonder about that. They follow the Fire Mouth instead of the Great Maw after all. Maybe we can coopt that god? It doesn't seem to be as abominable as the Maw, and having a religious order to put magic-using ogres in might come in very handy in the future because i doubt Ogres can be taught effectively in the Colleges.
 
@torroar

I know you will probably update it later, but I can't wait to see that we max out opinion with individual dwarves and their factions in front page. Also need to replace Ungrim.

Also wondering if Angrad got any new big names?
 
Frankly, Skulltaker is like, somewhere between Bloodthirster and Bloodletter. He's so much more than any other Bloodletter, and in some cases he's even more feared than an actual Bloodthirster. His legend and successes have propelled him into a uniquely terrifying existence.

But yes, for purposes of basic classification, he is a bloodletter.

Plus a whole lot more, but still.
 
torroar said:
He can give her more information than he otherwise wouldn't be able to, but he wasn't able to mark down the runic designs of the Sky Titans unfortunately. On the other hand, anything is better than nothing.

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Frederick's been informed as to who/what was going on. He's just in that state of it not-quite hitting him just yet. When it does, I expect he will drink quite a lot more than usual. And yes, Skulltaker is horrifically infamous, so he knew of Skulltaker, just not precisely on-sight.
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1. are all of Freddy's organs recreated by Jade Wizards?
2. does breaking of skulls permanently weaken skulltaker?
 
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Chronic said:
I wonder about that. They follow the Fire Mouth instead of the Great Maw after all. Maybe we can coopt that god? It doesn't seem to be as abominable as the Maw, and having a religious order to put magic-using ogres in might come in very handy in the future because i doubt Ogres can be taught effectively in the Colleges.
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Fire mouth is connected to the Maw. This has been discussed before.
 
Chronic said:
I wonder about that. They follow the Fire Mouth instead of the Great Maw after all. Maybe we can coopt that god? It doesn't seem to be as abominable as the Maw, and having a religious order to put magic-using ogres in might come in very handy in the future because i doubt Ogres can be taught effectively in the Colleges.
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IIRC Torroar already said no to that one, the Fire Mouth basically is another aspect of the Maw...only instead of eating everything it wants to set everything on fire.
 
Slaggedfire said:
Well said my friend.

Dwarves care about one thing above all. Honor. Instead of focusing his fathers honor we should focus on HIS honor.
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Actually, it's the other way around. He feels that he needs to give the slayer's oath to regain his honour, but if we can convince him that taking the oath after his father died to absolve them of it than it would dishonour his father and make his father's doom worthless.
 
When we get home we should be on heavy guard. We have purged the rot of Nurgle, foiled the schemes of Tzheench and kept a shit-ton of skulls from Khorne's throne. I can't recall us slighting Slanesh in any mayor way but it's just a matter of time at this rate. We can expect a high increase in raids from Norsca and cults infiltrating us. We may require Dawi aid sooner than expected.
 
torroar said:
Frankly, Skulltaker is like, somewhere between Bloodthirster and Bloodletter. He's so much more than any other Bloodletter, and in some cases he's even more feared than an actual Bloodthirster. His legend and successes have propelled him into a uniquely terrifying existence.

But yes, for purposes of basic classification, he is a bloodletter.

Plus a whole lot more, but still.
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I mean, Skulltaker is "just a bloodletter" in the same way that Sigmar is "just a human".
 
Canadian Patriot said:
Actually, it's the other way around. He feels that he needs to give the slayer's oath to regain his honour, but if we can convince him that taking the oath after his father died to absolve them of it than it would dishonour his father and make his father's doom worthless.
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Figured if we focused on his honor, that of his need to be a King for his people and the dishonor of shaming his descendants with his perceived shame, then we would be able to influence him.

Aranfan said:
I mean, Skulltaker is "just a bloodletter" in the same way that Sigmar is "just a human".
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What's wrong with being just a human eh? I think being just a human makes Sigmar far better, thinking of him otherwise is folly. He is a human foremost, and a god second.
 
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Athanor said:
When we get home we should be on heavy guard. We have purged the rot of Nurgle, foiled the schemes of Tzheench and kept a shit-ton of skulls from Khorne's throne. I can't recall us slighting Slanesh in any mayor way but it's just a matter of time at this rate. We can expect a high increase in raids from Norsca and cults infiltrating us. We may require Dawi aid sooner than expected.
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Probably because most of the Slaaneshi has followed Sigvald to Estalia.
 
Athanor said:
When we get home we should be on heavy guard. We have purged the rot of Nurgle, foiled the schemes of Tzheench and kept a shit-ton of skulls from Khorne's throne. I can't recall us slighting Slanesh in any mayor way but it's just a matter of time at this rate. We can expect a high increase in raids from Norsca and cults infiltrating us. We may require Dawi aid sooner than expected.
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Well first we go slap the Witch Hunters a little.

How did a Tzeench corrupted Arch Lector get away from them?!

Actually scratch that HOW WAS HE EVEN ALIVE!

I'd have though Magnus would have cracked his head a melon for the stunt he pulled. Was it said somewhere how he survived and I just missed it?

@torroar sorry, but its been bugging me, I'll reread the part where he turned back up, but how did Jung survive?

ChaosTheVoid said:
Probably because most of the Slaaneshi has followed Sigvald to Estalia.
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Estalians who are shooting back him with our...cannons and guns...

So by proxy we've certainly been contributing to screwing over Slaanesh.
 
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