[][FYM] Captain Samhaya Mrr'shan
Like getting diverse cast
So do I, but I'm already planning to vote in Captain Mrr'shan next year anyway. Whereas it makes supreme narrative sense to give Captain McAdams this specific ship, a ship which will not be available again for five years, by which time she may well have retired or moved on.

Therefore, while I totally favor Captain Mrr'shan as AN explorer captain, both because of her great skill and because of diversity...

I do not favor Captain Mrr'shan for this specific position. I would rather appoint her as captain of another ship at a later time, and allow McAdams (who has good skills in her own right) to take the position that is most rightly and properly hers.
 
[X][FYM] Captain Rosalee McAdams

Mrr'shan and Mbeki next.

For the intelligence reports what about these, Romulan Fleet Strength, Klingon Fleet Strength and Romulan/Klingon War Objectives? This would give us a pretty good idea of the relative strength and probable goals for each side and could give us a good mediating position for helping to end the war. I think there was also an option to ask for a report on the needed level of Impact to defeat the Syndicate. It would give us a good idea of how long it will take to be finished with them. Cardassian Crisis Response and Sydraxian War Reasons to round this out and we've covered the end of this crisis, the 2 current operations and the likely next major war to happen on our borders unless the Cardassians start one.
 
Standard Starfleet: 22 Officer, 33.05 Enlisted, 19.6 Techs
Explorer Corps: 2.25 Officer, 4.30 Enlisted, 5.25 Techs

So given these corrected numbers, I would like to push for an explorer corps recruitment drive THIS snakepit, with the intent of crewing the 40E A excelsior with EC when it draws in 2311 Q1.

In fact, it's almost necessary to do this. If we do not do an EC drive, the next Excelsior we can crew with EC is the UP B build in 2312 Q1. But that means we have a regular techs shortfall in 2311 Q4, mostly due to the combination of an Oberth draw earlier that year plus two Connie-Bs drawing that quarter. We dip quite low, but not into outright shortfall. Still concerning.

Skip even farther, to, say, the one in SF A which draws in 2313 Q1 and we have a second low period of techs and regular officers.

I will mention we have a major regular officer and regular enlisted problem coming up in 2316 Q2, to the tune of 2-3 of each. That is presuming we:
1. DO do the recruitment drive this snakepit.
2. Use EC to crew ALL of 2311 Q1, 2313 Q1, and 2316 Q1. If we skip any of those, the regular officer and enlisted shortage gets even worse.

If we don't, we're looking at 7-8 each, which is really difficult to make up.

An alternative is to spend on a science academy expansion THIS snakepit, but it is only a short term solution. If we do neither we are rather completely hooped. And To make up the upcoming shortage, we will need all of about two four academy expansions, new member academy contributions, and to adjust steering heavily away from techs in 4 years.
e2: Briefvoice seems to already have included new members and one expansion, so we need even more.

e: This is also another reason to buy both refits, as a well-paced refit program alongside regular shipbuilding relaxes our crewing requirements by using berths but not using crew.
 
Last edited:
Looks like we're going to be spamming acadamy expansions for a while, then. There's a also a few helpful techs in Medical, Xenopsych and Warp Tech.

Edit: And don't forget that we can stand down Mirandas/Constellations to cover crew shortfalls if need be. I'd be perfectly fine with treating those as crew banks for Connie-B's/Rennies.
 
Last edited:
New techs is good. Counselors is good. 300-level affiliates is good. Even 100-level affiliates are good. Dropping an entire Rennie in favor of three Miranda refits is good. I'll take it all.

e: A fourth EC excelsior through another future recruitment drive isn't terrible either, as it frees an entire Rennie worth of regular crew. Although kind of questionable in terms of actually getting excelsiors into our regular fleet.

Edit: And don't forget that we can stand down Mirandas/Constellations to cover crew shortfalls if need be. I'd be perfectly fine with treating those as crew banks for Connie-B's/Rennies.

Good point.
 
Last edited:
We have more good captain choices than we have ships to assign them to. That's good enough for me. So far, every debate about who to have running a five year mission has been of the form "which of these good candidates do we assign," not "wow, some of these people have lame bonuses." Every explorer to date has been assigned a captain with a desirable special ability that has come in handy one or more times, as far as I can tell.

Our explorer panel is looking kind of thin. Surprised we don't have more applicants.
Care to bet we'll have more next year? Then Oneiros doesn't have so much else on his mind that he lacks the time to come up with more applicants, and we'll have two new explorers in need of captains at once (theoretically, three).
 
Last edited:
[X][FYM] Captain Rosalee McAdams

Her description is just ripe for fun events. I can't get past it.
 
So given these corrected numbers, I would like to push for an explorer corps recruitment drive THIS snakepit, with the intent of crewing the 40E A excelsior with EC when it draws in 2311 Q1.

In fact, it's necessary to do this. If we do not do an EC drive, the next Excelsior we can crew with EC is the UP B build in 2312 Q1. But that means we have a regular techs shortfall in 2311 Q4, mostly due to the combination of an Oberth draw earlier that year plus two Connie-Bs drawing that quarter.

I'm projecting no such shortfall.

I will mention we have a major regular officer and regular enlisted problem coming up in 2316 Q2, to the tune of 9-10 of each. That is presuming we:
1. DO do the recruitment drive this snakepit.
2. Use EC to crew ALL of 2311 Q1, 2313 Q1, and 2316 Q1. If we skip any of those, the regular officer and enlisted shortage gets even worse.

It's not quite that bad, but there is indeed likely to be a shortfall in 2316.

An alternative is to spend on a science academy expansion THIS snakepit, but it is only a short term solution. If we do neither we are rather completely hooped. And we will need all of about two four academy expansions, new member academy contributions, and to adjust steering heavily away from techs in 4 years.
e2: Briefvoice seems to already have included new members and one expansion, so we need even more.

Yes, my current calculations assume the Rigellians entering in 2311 (and thus providing a boost to 2312 income). But there actually doesn't seem to be much support for doing a push on the RIgellians. People don't like the idea.

e: This is also another reason to buy both refits, as a well-paced refit program alongside regular shipbuilding relaxes our crewing requirements by using berths but not using crew.

Convincing people to not build Rennies will be hard....
 
The real question is whether we'll be building the Renaissance-class at the same breakneck pace we built Constitution-Bs (complete with having to beg resource allocations from the Council), or whether we'll be taking it easier and trying to live more fully within our means.
 
The real question is whether we'll be building the Renaissance-class at the same breakneck pace we built Constitution-Bs (complete with having to beg resource allocations from the Council), or whether we'll be taking it easier and trying to live more fully within our means.
I would prefer to instead request they found new mining colonies so that our annual amount of supplies would be greater. That, in my mind, is better than any one time bonus.
 
Well, the only controls we have over mining colony acquisation are progress on the mineral tech lines, progress on the survey sensor lines and how many EC explorers we have active.

Well, asssuming Straak's post 5YM boni don't come into play, and I'm half expecting one of his boni to be something like automatic +5 RP per year to geological/survey sensors subtechs, independent of research teams.
 
I would prefer to instead request they found new mining colonies so that our annual amount of supplies would be greater. That, in my mind, is better than any one time bonus.

We don't have any SR colonies available right now. Our BR reserve isn't really ever too low.

I'm projecting no such shortfall.

Ah, I see, I entered the current numbers in the wrong box. However, I still think that we're in a much better position in 2316 Q2 if we get in 3 EC ships using a recruitment drive. You're looking at a ~7-8 shortfall on regular officers and enlisted, with an immediate EC recruitment we'd be looking at ~3-4 only, or the equivalent of a single academy expansion. That's manageable whereas ~7 is really hard to make up.

We save considerable PP in the long run.
 
Last edited:
Quick list of intel options that anyone has voice support for, combined and organized by target political group
Romulans
  • Romulan Fleet Strength
  • Romulan War Objectives
Klingons
  • Klingon Fleet Strength
  • Klingon War Objectives
Orion Syndicate
  • Impact required to defeat the Syndicate
Cardassian
  • Cardassian Crisis Response
  • Cardassian Diplomatic Posture
  • Kadak-Tor Details
Sydraxian
  • Sydraxian War Reasons
  • Sydraxian Diplomatic Posture
  • Syndraxian Fleet Strength
Federation
  • Federation Counter Intel Status
 
We don't have any SR colonies available right now. Our BR reserve isn't really ever too low.



Ah, I see, I entered the current numbers in the wrong box. However, I still think that we're in a much better position in 2316 Q2 if we get in 3 EC ships using a recruitment drive. You're looking at a ~7-8 shortfall on regular officers and enlisted, with an immediate EC recruitment we'd be looking at ~2-3 only, or the equivalent of a single academy expansion. That's manageable whereas ~7 is really hard to make up.

We save considerable PP in the long run.
Oh, would be nice if we were able to tell that if the mines (current and potential) for Special resources were different from the mines (current and potential) for bulk resources with a glance. As for dealing with our surplus of bulk resources, our review of Karak'Tor should provide us with some design elements that will eagerly consume said surplus. Now, on the topic of knowing things at a glance, getting a clear idea of our foe's current borders and worlds of note is important, if only to allow us a point of reference to compare ourselves against to see where we need to improve.
 
Last edited:
Ah, I see, I entered the current numbers in the wrong box. However, I still think that we're in a much better position in 2316 Q2 if we get in 3 EC ships using a recruitment drive. You're looking at a ~7-8 shortfall on regular officers and enlisted, with an immediate EC recruitment we'd be looking at ~2-3 only, or the equivalent of a single academy expansion. That's manageable whereas ~7 is really hard to make up.

We save considerable PP in the long run.

People objected very harshly to using multiple requests for an Excelsior's worth of resources. Won't we see the same objections from this?

  • Romulan War Objectives
  • Klingon War Objectives

A note of caution about these. They are likely to be some of the mostly highly guarded secrets of those respective empires since "how far are they willing to go" is one of the things you are incentivized to keep your opponent wondering about.

What we'll get will be Starfleet Intelligence's best guesses and analysis, and having them spend time doing that analysis is worth something... but it will still be only a guess.

Orion Syndicate
  • Impact required to defeat the Syndicate

Not sure it's really worth an action for this. Is there a great deal of value in being able to estimate if it's three years or five?


Shouldn't need a separate action now.

Federation Counter Intel Status

I'm not sure I understand what this means.
 
Last edited:
Back
Top