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- He/Him
I'm reasonably certain that Reason is the name of a Renaissance, actually."Reason" is the name of my Miranda.
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To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
- Thread starter OneirosTheWriter
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- Illinois
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- He/Him
Which is about to be refit to the Renaissance-"A is for alpha strike" standard. Probably has "ultima ratio regum" on there somewhere.
- Location
- Patriarchova
The ship is to be rechristened the USS Reason Ur Ded.
- Location
- Aotearoa
Cost-cutting at the original design time (cheap Torpedo secondary armament to supply to considerable firepower, rather than SR-consuming secondary phasers) means that the Renaissance is as demanding on the Starfleet supply chain as an Excelsior-A, to keep it's appetite for antimatter sated.
The Rennie-A gets the ability to fire more torpedoes faster, full spreads from the two new burst launcher tubes.
Perhaps surprisingly, this doesn't markedly affect their supply overhead. Maybe they know Janeways' supplier.
The Rennie-A gets the ability to fire more torpedoes faster, full spreads from the two new burst launcher tubes.
Perhaps surprisingly, this doesn't markedly affect their supply overhead. Maybe they know Janeways' supplier.
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- Location
- USA
I agree with @Simon_Jester. We can reason with the Hishmeri. It is possible to make them stop slaving. We can't reason with the Harmony.
Forgothrax
Not Going Gently
- Pronouns
- He/Him
More importantly, you can threaten Hishmeri. They speak that language and respond to it. Phasers over Hishmeriville is enough of a threat to them they won't roll over us en masse unless they see us as seriously weakening. The Singers insulate themselves from consequences, sending out only meat puppets to die, and won't stop without serious consequences to themselves personally.
Also. Back!
Also. Back!
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
I mean.
The Singers are aware that we could in principle destroy them. They don't feel personally threatened right now, not much, but they know it's an issue. They wouldn't piss off, say, the First Federation if it were close enough to them to be a threat (I tend to think they live in one of the Magellanic Clouds).
The thing about the Harmony isn't how hard it is to credibly threaten the Singers. It's that the Singers don't really think of us as people to whom meaningful promises can be made.
You don't negotiate with a wild animal. If it's a very strong wild animal you may back the hell out of its territory until such time as you can come back with a bigger gun, but you don't negotiate.
Maelore
Totaly not a Romulan
- Location
- Fairfax, VA
An odd thought. Do you think the Singers would find the Metrons as annoying as we and the Gorn do? As silly as this question seems I really do wonder how well they would or can deal with beings and civs that actively interact with other species and have the kind of power shown by say the Metrons and Organnians.
Thors_Alumni
Proud member of Thors Class VII from Liberl
- Location
- Liberl Zemuria.
pretty sure the Metrons would be offended by them but YMMV
- Location
- Illinois
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- He/Him
Ok who let the Goshanwar into the Shipyard Ops office
- Location
- The internet
Personally, I remain suprised that there is no refit program for the Devoras. Its worse than a stock excelsior, they haven't refit it at all, and they still have 7 of them.
Thors_Alumni
Proud member of Thors Class VII from Liberl
- Location
- Liberl Zemuria.
*A certain Starfleet Intelligence Agent* "Probably a certain failed Romulan Spy masquerading as a Seamstress."
It is unlikely but possible that the Cardassians simply don't build their ships with later upgrades and refits in mind, so it's easier and cheaper to just build new ships and work old ships down to scraps.
Thors_Alumni
Proud member of Thors Class VII from Liberl
- Location
- Liberl Zemuria.
Devoras are Romulan warships. And as for them getting a refit. They probably have by now and we just don't know about it IC and besides that the design is old and probably been replaced with a better warship class.
- Location
- The internet
It has. They have 7 Devoras, and 7 Khellian right now, and the Devoras are .4 mt heavier. Leaving 7 2.7mt ships horribly out of date seems like an odd choice for them.
Nervos Belli
Don't think this means you've won!
- Location
- Murica
I'm looking forward to when the Romulans announce the launch of their first ka'Sharren Class heavy warbirds.
Eh, I can't keep them straight.
But in the Romulan's case, it might well be that due to the war they desperately needed ships on the frontline and didn't have time to replace them, and with the end of the war that's still true as their economy crashed. I wouldn't be surprised if they decided to just replace their Devoras ships in their entirety for new build Khellian and Khellian II ships rather than go through a refit program that would see the ships retired two years later anyway.
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- Outside the Box
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- She/Her
Edit: Removed stupid snippy statement. (Sorry @Briefvoice .)
Vote Tally : To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest) Sci-Fi | Page 4398 | Sufficient Velocity [Posts: 109951-110057]
##### NetTally 3.0.3
Task: TMIR
Ranking: #1
[#][TMIR] Empress Velim of the Romulan Star Empire has made a personal request for T'Mir to become part of a permanent memorial to the Biophage Crisis and the Battle of Kadesh. T'Mir would be demilitarized, struck from the Starfleet Register, then towed to Kadesh. (Gain +5 on the [Romulan Influence] tag on the Sotaw. Gain +2 pp. Empress Velim will be pleased. If this option is not the highest-ranked option, it will not be implemented.)
No. of Votes: 21
Ranking: #2
[#][TMIR] Starfleet Intelligence requests to convert an Oberth permanently for SIGINT duties. Though the ship's prefix and registry would change to SS and NC, the ship's name would be not be struck from the Starfleet Register to avoid confusion. (Starfleet Intelligence gains 1 new spy ship in 2327.Q1. -10 br, -30 sr. Gain 1 ap this year (under the control of the Vice Admiral); if the Oberth chosen is T'Mir, instead gain 1 ap this year for your discretionary budget.)
No. of Votes: 26
Ranking: #3
[#][TMIR] Starfleet History Command requests the donation of an Oberth, ideally the T'Mir. The ship would be preserved as a component of SHC's Active Fleet, where it would be used to promote understanding of Starfleet history. The ship's name would not be withdrawn from the Starfleet Register, meaning that no future Starfleet ship could have that name. (Gain +0.4 enlisted/year from increased recruitment. Gain +2 pp if the Oberth chosen is T'Mir.)
No. of Votes: 25
Ranking: #4
[#][TMIR] A Risan group wishes to convert an Oberth, preferably T'Mir, into a 'Starfleet Escape Entertainment Ship', along the lines of a similar proposal for a Constitution-B cruiser, but refined after two further years of planning. The ship would be demilitarized, struck from the Starfleet Register, transferred to Risa, and converted into a SEES. (+0.1 OET/year. Gain +2 pp if the Oberth chosen is T'Mir.)
No. of Votes: 18
Ranking: #5
[#][TMIR] Starfleet Academy requests to use an Oberth as a permanently-docked training ship. The selected Oberth would not be withdrawn from the Starfleet Register. (Reduce the cost for academy expansion this year by 10 pp. Reduce the cost by a further 2 pp if the Oberth chosen is T'Mir.)
No. of Votes: 24
Ranking: #6
[#][TMIR] The Orion Union wishes to make T'Mir part of a living museum of the Eternal Empire Crisis (and of the history of the late-period Orion Empire), demilitarized and permanently maintained in orbit at Broken Chains. The name T'Mir would be struck from the Starfleet Register. (Gain +0.19 enlisted/year from increased recruitment from the Orion Union. Gain +5 pp. If this option is not the highest-ranked option, it will not be implemented.)
No. of Votes: 8
Ranking: #7
[#][TMIR] The ISE Consortium wishes to replace the former USS Mendel in orbit of WISE 0855-0714. The selected Oberth will be demilitarized, converted into a (mostly) stationary research platform, then towed to WISE 0855-0714. Its name would not be struck from the Starfleet Register. (Gain +2 pp/year, unaffected by bonuses, for 10 years. Gain an additional +2 pp this year if the Oberth chosen is T'Mir.)
No. of Votes: 11
Ranking: #8
[#][TMIR] The Ur'razzi see an Oberth as a potentially valuable ship, both for training and for survey work. The selected Oberth would be struck from the Starfleet Register, then transferred to the Ur'razzi United Air Force. (Ur'razzi gain 1 Oberth in 2326.Q1. +10 br, +30 sr. Gain +5 relations with the Ur'razzi; gain 0.1 OET from the Ur'razzi this year if the Oberth chosen is T'Mir.)
No. of Votes: 6
Ranking: #9
[#][TMIR] Starfleet Logistics Command is also interested in converting an Oberth into a cargo ship. The Oberth would be demilitarized, then renamed with an SS prefix and an NC code (instead of USS and NCC, respectively); however, the name would not be struck from the Starfleet Register to avoid confusion. (Starfleet gains 1 cargo ship in 2327.Q1. -3 pp; -1 pp instead if the Oberth chosen is T'Mir.)
No. of Votes: 1
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Task: CYBORG
Ranking: #1
[#][CYBORG] Research focus: let Institutes like Pallas-Abat come to the fore and spearhead research into the wetware of the Harmony. (No mobilisation gain from this option, Gain 4 Disruption from the extra research efforts)
No. of Votes: 28
Ranking: #2
[#][CYBORG] Diplomatic focus: despite having gone to war with the Licori, the Gaeni maintain significant diplomatic and scientific links with the Arcadian Empire, and to a lesser extent the Morshadd Commune. Helping the Licori combine efforts may be of significant benefit. (-26 pp per year, gain 1 year's progress on the linked tag [Fiddling while Morshadd Burns (0/3) FDS] each year; when this tag resolves, if the crisis is still in effect, instead conduct half-strength diplopushes on the Arcadian Empire and the Morshadd Commune each year until it ends)
No. of Votes: 26
Ranking: #3
[#][CYBORG] Defensive focus: The Gaeni are unorthodox, yet talented engineers; perhaps they should focus on preparing static defenses, as well as preventing subversion. (-20 pp per year for support, increase mobilization one step, the Gaeni will invest in starbases, outposts, convoy stations, and sensor platforms, both over Gaeni worlds and in support of Federation defensive plans, and will invest in counterintelligence efforts in Gaeni space.)
No. of Votes: 23
Ranking: #4
[#][CYBORG] Support focus: Henn-Makad Institute stands ready for deep-space engineering projects. Outposts, Repair Yards, Stations, at your disposal. (-25 pp per year for support, the Gaeni will invest in shipyards, outposts, and repair yards to provide a backstop to Federation fleet efforts)
No. of Votes: 7
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Task: SELEK
[X][SELEK] Transfer the Oberth-class USS Selek (formerly of the Vulcan High Command) to the Federation Science Council and use it to monitor the suvekizer larva's development. (Beta Cthon I-b research colony becomes Selek suvekizer research colony, +5 relations with Dreamer Collective)
No. of Votes: 26
[X][SELEK] Do not transfer Selek (lose Beta Cthon I-b research colony, +10 relations with Dreamer Collective, the fifth highest-ranked option from the Oberth vote will be chosen for Selek (if possible))
No. of Votes: 3
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Task: TAUNI
[X][TAUNI] Release the Renaissance-A design to the SGC and assist the Tauni in constructing one. (-10 pp, +15 on [Fool me once...] tag on Tauni, Tauni will build a Renaissance-A)
No. of Votes: 21
[X][TAUNI] Release the Miranda-B design to the SGC, and recommend the SGC build a Miranda-B instead of a cruiser (-15 pp, +10 on [Fool me once...], Tauni will build a Miranda-B starting in 2326.Q2)
No. of Votes: 8
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Task: DEFENCE
[X][DEFENCE] Encourage the Rigellians to reduce the scale of their planned auxiliary shipyard complex at Abadan for a year. (-40 pp, two additional ep and 20 sp will be loaned to the Tauni for further support, 2x1mt and 2x400kt auxiliary berths delayed 1 year, gain +25 on [Fool me once...])
No. of Votes: 12
[X][DEFENCE] Encourage the Ked Paddah to delay expansion of the shipyard at Gad for a year (-45 pp, two additional ep and 20 sp will be loaned to the Tauni for further support, one 1mt berth delayed 1 year, gain +25 on [Fool me once...])
No. of Votes: 11
[X][DEFENCE] Encourage the Honiani to delay expansion of the Soulforge shipyard at Vail for a year (-50 pp, two additional ep and 20 sp will be loaned to the Tauni for further support, 2x815kt berths delayed 1 year, gain +25 on [Fool me once...])
No. of Votes: 3
[X][DEFENCE] Provide additional supply only (-10 pp, Lose -5 on [Fool me once...])
No. of Votes: 1
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Task: LAIO
[X][LAIO] Construct a starbase over Laian, using Laio engineering support (-30 pp, -0 ep, a Starfleet Starbase will be built over Laian)
No. of Votes: 26
[X][LAIO] Transfer the retired Constitution-B class cruisers USS Saratoga and VCS Eridani to the Laio (-10 pp to bring the hulls back to active use, Laio will retire two obsolete Explorers in favor of the cruisers)
No. of Votes: 24
[X][LAIO] Federalize, refit, and transfer 3 Miranda-Bs next year (+3 pp, +30 br, +30 sr, three Miranda-Bs to be transferred upon completion of refit, replacing obsolete Laian frigates)
No. of Votes: 21
[X][LAIO] Transfer 3 additional Miranda-Bs to the Laio ASAP (+6 pp, transfer USS Lion, USS Eketha, and USS Shield to Laio upon completion of their refits, replacing Laian frigates)
No. of Votes: 12
[X][LAIO] Support the Laio as they begin to mobilize their economy (-55 pp, Laio will mobilize* their economy an additional step; this will lead to a harder post-crisis industrial crash)
No. of Votes: 2
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Task: SHIELD
[X][SHIELD] Recommend the Amarki be permitted to deploy as a backstop to the ISC, defending an ally against the Harmony while remaining relatively close to the GBZ (-25 pp, the ISC will appreciate this)
No. of Votes: 19
[X][SHIELD] Approve the Amarki request (-20 pp, sizable Amarki fleet assets, including all three available Riala-A battleships (to be replaced by Riala-Bs upon conclusion of refits), to be deployed to Honiani space, increase event rate in Amarki space one stage for the duration of the crisis)
No. of Votes: 5
[X][SHIELD] Recommend the Amarki reduce the scale of their deployment to Honiani space (-38 pp, a smaller Amarki force (led by a single Riala-A) will be deployed to Honiani space)
No. of Votes: 3
Total No. of Voters: 32
##### NetTally 3.0.3
Task: TMIR
Ranking: #1
[#][TMIR] Empress Velim of the Romulan Star Empire has made a personal request for T'Mir to become part of a permanent memorial to the Biophage Crisis and the Battle of Kadesh. T'Mir would be demilitarized, struck from the Starfleet Register, then towed to Kadesh. (Gain +5 on the [Romulan Influence] tag on the Sotaw. Gain +2 pp. Empress Velim will be pleased. If this option is not the highest-ranked option, it will not be implemented.)
No. of Votes: 21
[1] Anime_Fan35
[1] Briefvoice
[1] Brogatar
[1] Commotion$ocks
[1] Dermon
[1] Enerael
[1] Glassware
[1] Goat
[1] Godwinson
[1] kimagurena
[1] kyuden
[1] Maelore
[1] Oshha
[1] PauliExklusor
[1] Random Member
[1] slybrarian
[1] Steven Kodaly
[1] sunrise
[1] tzar1990
[2] Derpmind
[3] veekie
[1] Briefvoice
[1] Brogatar
[1] Commotion$ocks
[1] Dermon
[1] Enerael
[1] Glassware
[1] Goat
[1] Godwinson
[1] kimagurena
[1] kyuden
[1] Maelore
[1] Oshha
[1] PauliExklusor
[1] Random Member
[1] slybrarian
[1] Steven Kodaly
[1] sunrise
[1] tzar1990
[2] Derpmind
[3] veekie
Ranking: #2
[#][TMIR] Starfleet Intelligence requests to convert an Oberth permanently for SIGINT duties. Though the ship's prefix and registry would change to SS and NC, the ship's name would be not be struck from the Starfleet Register to avoid confusion. (Starfleet Intelligence gains 1 new spy ship in 2327.Q1. -10 br, -30 sr. Gain 1 ap this year (under the control of the Vice Admiral); if the Oberth chosen is T'Mir, instead gain 1 ap this year for your discretionary budget.)
No. of Votes: 26
[1] agumentic
[1] Alliterate
[1] JesseJ
[1] Jrin
[1] Mr Tebbs
[1] Simon_Jester
[2] Anime_Fan35
[2] Briefvoice
[2] Commotion$ocks
[2] Glassware
[2] Goat
[2] Godwinson
[2] Maelore
[2] Night
[2] PauliExklusor
[2] Random Member
[2] slybrarian
[3] Dermon
[3] Enerael
[3] Hadanelith
[3] kimagurena
[3] kyuden
[3] Raw90
[4] Gingganz
[5] sunrise
[5] veekie
[1] Alliterate
[1] JesseJ
[1] Jrin
[1] Mr Tebbs
[1] Simon_Jester
[2] Anime_Fan35
[2] Briefvoice
[2] Commotion$ocks
[2] Glassware
[2] Goat
[2] Godwinson
[2] Maelore
[2] Night
[2] PauliExklusor
[2] Random Member
[2] slybrarian
[3] Dermon
[3] Enerael
[3] Hadanelith
[3] kimagurena
[3] kyuden
[3] Raw90
[4] Gingganz
[5] sunrise
[5] veekie
Ranking: #3
[#][TMIR] Starfleet History Command requests the donation of an Oberth, ideally the T'Mir. The ship would be preserved as a component of SHC's Active Fleet, where it would be used to promote understanding of Starfleet history. The ship's name would not be withdrawn from the Starfleet Register, meaning that no future Starfleet ship could have that name. (Gain +0.4 enlisted/year from increased recruitment. Gain +2 pp if the Oberth chosen is T'Mir.)
No. of Votes: 25
[1] Raw90
[2] agumentic
[2] Alliterate
[2] Gingganz
[2] Hadanelith
[2] JesseJ
[2] Mr Tebbs
[2] Simon_Jester
[2] veekie
[3] Commotion$ocks
[3] Derpmind
[3] Jrin
[3] me.me.here
[3] PauliExklusor
[3] Steven Kodaly
[3] sunrise
[4] Anime_Fan35
[4] Briefvoice
[4] Glassware
[4] Goat
[4] Godwinson
[4] kimagurena
[4] kyuden
[4] Maelore
[4] slybrarian
[2] agumentic
[2] Alliterate
[2] Gingganz
[2] Hadanelith
[2] JesseJ
[2] Mr Tebbs
[2] Simon_Jester
[2] veekie
[3] Commotion$ocks
[3] Derpmind
[3] Jrin
[3] me.me.here
[3] PauliExklusor
[3] Steven Kodaly
[3] sunrise
[4] Anime_Fan35
[4] Briefvoice
[4] Glassware
[4] Goat
[4] Godwinson
[4] kimagurena
[4] kyuden
[4] Maelore
[4] slybrarian
Ranking: #4
[#][TMIR] A Risan group wishes to convert an Oberth, preferably T'Mir, into a 'Starfleet Escape Entertainment Ship', along the lines of a similar proposal for a Constitution-B cruiser, but refined after two further years of planning. The ship would be demilitarized, struck from the Starfleet Register, transferred to Risa, and converted into a SEES. (+0.1 OET/year. Gain +2 pp if the Oberth chosen is T'Mir.)
No. of Votes: 18
[2] kimagurena
[2] me.me.here
[3] agumentic
[3] Alliterate
[3] Anime_Fan35
[3] Briefvoice
[3] Glassware
[3] Maelore
[3] slybrarian
[4] Commotion$ocks
[4] Hadanelith
[4] Mr Tebbs
[4] Simon_Jester
[4] Steven Kodaly
[4] sunrise
[5] Gingganz
[5] Goat
[5] Random Member
[2] me.me.here
[3] agumentic
[3] Alliterate
[3] Anime_Fan35
[3] Briefvoice
[3] Glassware
[3] Maelore
[3] slybrarian
[4] Commotion$ocks
[4] Hadanelith
[4] Mr Tebbs
[4] Simon_Jester
[4] Steven Kodaly
[4] sunrise
[5] Gingganz
[5] Goat
[5] Random Member
Ranking: #5
[#][TMIR] Starfleet Academy requests to use an Oberth as a permanently-docked training ship. The selected Oberth would not be withdrawn from the Starfleet Register. (Reduce the cost for academy expansion this year by 10 pp. Reduce the cost by a further 2 pp if the Oberth chosen is T'Mir.)
No. of Votes: 24
[1] Derpmind
[2] Jrin
[2] kyuden
[3] Goat
[3] Godwinson
[3] JesseJ
[3] Mr Tebbs
[3] Simon_Jester
[4] agumentic
[4] Alliterate
[4] Dermon
[4] Enerael
[4] Night
[4] PauliExklusor
[4] Raw90
[4] veekie
[5] Anime_Fan35
[5] Briefvoice
[5] Commotion$ocks
[5] Glassware
[5] Hadanelith
[5] Maelore
[5] me.me.here
[5] slybrarian
[2] Jrin
[2] kyuden
[3] Goat
[3] Godwinson
[3] JesseJ
[3] Mr Tebbs
[3] Simon_Jester
[4] agumentic
[4] Alliterate
[4] Dermon
[4] Enerael
[4] Night
[4] PauliExklusor
[4] Raw90
[4] veekie
[5] Anime_Fan35
[5] Briefvoice
[5] Commotion$ocks
[5] Glassware
[5] Hadanelith
[5] Maelore
[5] me.me.here
[5] slybrarian
Ranking: #6
[#][TMIR] The Orion Union wishes to make T'Mir part of a living museum of the Eternal Empire Crisis (and of the history of the late-period Orion Empire), demilitarized and permanently maintained in orbit at Broken Chains. The name T'Mir would be struck from the Starfleet Register. (Gain +0.19 enlisted/year from increased recruitment from the Orion Union. Gain +5 pp. If this option is not the highest-ranked option, it will not be implemented.)
No. of Votes: 8
[1] Gingganz
[1] Hadanelith
[1] me.me.here
[1] Night
[1] veekie
[2] Steven Kodaly
[4] Derpmind
[4] Jrin
[1] Hadanelith
[1] me.me.here
[1] Night
[1] veekie
[2] Steven Kodaly
[4] Derpmind
[4] Jrin
Ranking: #7
[#][TMIR] The ISE Consortium wishes to replace the former USS Mendel in orbit of WISE 0855-0714. The selected Oberth will be demilitarized, converted into a (mostly) stationary research platform, then towed to WISE 0855-0714. Its name would not be struck from the Starfleet Register. (Gain +2 pp/year, unaffected by bonuses, for 10 years. Gain an additional +2 pp this year if the Oberth chosen is T'Mir.)
No. of Votes: 11
[2] Dermon
[2] Enerael
[4] JesseJ
[4] me.me.here
[4] Random Member
[5] Derpmind
[5] kimagurena
[5] PauliExklusor
[5] Raw90
[5] Simon_Jester
[5] Steven Kodaly
[2] Enerael
[4] JesseJ
[4] me.me.here
[4] Random Member
[5] Derpmind
[5] kimagurena
[5] PauliExklusor
[5] Raw90
[5] Simon_Jester
[5] Steven Kodaly
Ranking: #8
[#][TMIR] The Ur'razzi see an Oberth as a potentially valuable ship, both for training and for survey work. The selected Oberth would be struck from the Starfleet Register, then transferred to the Ur'razzi United Air Force. (Ur'razzi gain 1 Oberth in 2326.Q1. +10 br, +30 sr. Gain +5 relations with the Ur'razzi; gain 0.1 OET from the Ur'razzi this year if the Oberth chosen is T'Mir.)
No. of Votes: 6
Ranking: #9
[#][TMIR] Starfleet Logistics Command is also interested in converting an Oberth into a cargo ship. The Oberth would be demilitarized, then renamed with an SS prefix and an NC code (instead of USS and NCC, respectively); however, the name would not be struck from the Starfleet Register to avoid confusion. (Starfleet gains 1 cargo ship in 2327.Q1. -3 pp; -1 pp instead if the Oberth chosen is T'Mir.)
No. of Votes: 1
[3] Random Member
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Task: CYBORG
Ranking: #1
[#][CYBORG] Research focus: let Institutes like Pallas-Abat come to the fore and spearhead research into the wetware of the Harmony. (No mobilisation gain from this option, Gain 4 Disruption from the extra research efforts)
No. of Votes: 28
[1] Alliterate
[1] Anime_Fan35
[1] Briefvoice
[1] Commotion$ocks
[1] Dermon
[1] Derpmind
[1] Gingganz
[1] Glassware
[1] Goat
[1] Godwinson
[1] JesseJ
[1] Jrin
[1] kimagurena
[1] kyuden
[1] Maelore
[1] me.me.here
[1] Mr Tebbs
[1] PauliExklusor
[1] Raw90
[1] slybrarian
[1] Steven Kodaly
[1] tzar1990
[1] veekie
[2] Enerael
[2] Hadanelith
[2] Random Member
[2] Simon_Jester
[2] sunrise
[1] Anime_Fan35
[1] Briefvoice
[1] Commotion$ocks
[1] Dermon
[1] Derpmind
[1] Gingganz
[1] Glassware
[1] Goat
[1] Godwinson
[1] JesseJ
[1] Jrin
[1] kimagurena
[1] kyuden
[1] Maelore
[1] me.me.here
[1] Mr Tebbs
[1] PauliExklusor
[1] Raw90
[1] slybrarian
[1] Steven Kodaly
[1] tzar1990
[1] veekie
[2] Enerael
[2] Hadanelith
[2] Random Member
[2] Simon_Jester
[2] sunrise
Ranking: #2
[#][CYBORG] Diplomatic focus: despite having gone to war with the Licori, the Gaeni maintain significant diplomatic and scientific links with the Arcadian Empire, and to a lesser extent the Morshadd Commune. Helping the Licori combine efforts may be of significant benefit. (-26 pp per year, gain 1 year's progress on the linked tag [Fiddling while Morshadd Burns (0/3) FDS] each year; when this tag resolves, if the crisis is still in effect, instead conduct half-strength diplopushes on the Arcadian Empire and the Morshadd Commune each year until it ends)
No. of Votes: 26
[1] Enerael
[1] Hadanelith
[1] Night
[1] Random Member
[1] Simon_Jester
[1] sunrise
[2] Alliterate
[2] Dermon
[2] Gingganz
[2] Glassware
[2] Goat
[2] Godwinson
[2] JesseJ
[2] kimagurena
[2] kyuden
[2] me.me.here
[2] Raw90
[2] slybrarian
[2] Steven Kodaly
[2] tzar1990
[2] veekie
[3] Anime_Fan35
[3] Briefvoice
[3] Commotion$ocks
[3] Maelore
[3] Mr Tebbs
[1] Hadanelith
[1] Night
[1] Random Member
[1] Simon_Jester
[1] sunrise
[2] Alliterate
[2] Dermon
[2] Gingganz
[2] Glassware
[2] Goat
[2] Godwinson
[2] JesseJ
[2] kimagurena
[2] kyuden
[2] me.me.here
[2] Raw90
[2] slybrarian
[2] Steven Kodaly
[2] tzar1990
[2] veekie
[3] Anime_Fan35
[3] Briefvoice
[3] Commotion$ocks
[3] Maelore
[3] Mr Tebbs
Ranking: #3
[#][CYBORG] Defensive focus: The Gaeni are unorthodox, yet talented engineers; perhaps they should focus on preparing static defenses, as well as preventing subversion. (-20 pp per year for support, increase mobilization one step, the Gaeni will invest in starbases, outposts, convoy stations, and sensor platforms, both over Gaeni worlds and in support of Federation defensive plans, and will invest in counterintelligence efforts in Gaeni space.)
No. of Votes: 23
[3] Alliterate
[3] Anime_Fan35
[3] Briefvoice
[3] Dermon
[3] Enerael
[3] Gingganz
[3] Glassware
[3] Godwinson
[3] Hadanelith
[3] JesseJ
[3] Jrin
[3] kyuden
[3] Maelore
[3] me.me.here
[3] Night
[3] PauliExklusor
[3] Random Member
[3] Raw90
[3] Simon_Jester
[3] slybrarian
[3] sunrise
[3] tzar1990
[3] veekie
[3] Anime_Fan35
[3] Briefvoice
[3] Dermon
[3] Enerael
[3] Gingganz
[3] Glassware
[3] Godwinson
[3] Hadanelith
[3] JesseJ
[3] Jrin
[3] kyuden
[3] Maelore
[3] me.me.here
[3] Night
[3] PauliExklusor
[3] Random Member
[3] Raw90
[3] Simon_Jester
[3] slybrarian
[3] sunrise
[3] tzar1990
[3] veekie
Ranking: #4
[#][CYBORG] Support focus: Henn-Makad Institute stands ready for deep-space engineering projects. Outposts, Repair Yards, Stations, at your disposal. (-25 pp per year for support, the Gaeni will invest in shipyards, outposts, and repair yards to provide a backstop to Federation fleet efforts)
No. of Votes: 7
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Task: SELEK
[X][SELEK] Transfer the Oberth-class USS Selek (formerly of the Vulcan High Command) to the Federation Science Council and use it to monitor the suvekizer larva's development. (Beta Cthon I-b research colony becomes Selek suvekizer research colony, +5 relations with Dreamer Collective)
No. of Votes: 26
[X] Godwinson
[X] Alliterate
[X] Commotion$ocks
[X] Dermon
[X] Enerael
[X] Gingganz
[X] Glassware
[X] Goat
[X] Hadanelith
[X] JesseJ
[X] Jrin
[X] kimagurena
[X] kyuden
[X] Maelore
[X] me.me.here
[X] Mr Tebbs
[X] Night
[X] PauliExklusor
[X] Random Member
[X] Raw90
[X] Simon_Jester
[X] slybrarian
[X] Steven Kodaly
[X] sunrise
[X] tzar1990
[X] veekie
[X] Alliterate
[X] Commotion$ocks
[X] Dermon
[X] Enerael
[X] Gingganz
[X] Glassware
[X] Goat
[X] Hadanelith
[X] JesseJ
[X] Jrin
[X] kimagurena
[X] kyuden
[X] Maelore
[X] me.me.here
[X] Mr Tebbs
[X] Night
[X] PauliExklusor
[X] Random Member
[X] Raw90
[X] Simon_Jester
[X] slybrarian
[X] Steven Kodaly
[X] sunrise
[X] tzar1990
[X] veekie
[X][SELEK] Do not transfer Selek (lose Beta Cthon I-b research colony, +10 relations with Dreamer Collective, the fifth highest-ranked option from the Oberth vote will be chosen for Selek (if possible))
No. of Votes: 3
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Task: TAUNI
[X][TAUNI] Release the Renaissance-A design to the SGC and assist the Tauni in constructing one. (-10 pp, +15 on [Fool me once...] tag on Tauni, Tauni will build a Renaissance-A)
No. of Votes: 21
[X] Godwinson
[X] Alliterate
[X] Anime_Fan35
[X] Briefvoice
[X] Commotion$ocks
[X] Derpmind
[X] Gingganz
[X] Hadanelith
[X] Jrin
[X] kimagurena
[X] kyuden
[X] Maelore
[X] me.me.here
[X] Night
[X] PauliExklusor
[X] Raw90
[X] Simon_Jester
[X] Steven Kodaly
[X] sunrise
[X] tzar1990
[X] veekie
[X] Alliterate
[X] Anime_Fan35
[X] Briefvoice
[X] Commotion$ocks
[X] Derpmind
[X] Gingganz
[X] Hadanelith
[X] Jrin
[X] kimagurena
[X] kyuden
[X] Maelore
[X] me.me.here
[X] Night
[X] PauliExklusor
[X] Raw90
[X] Simon_Jester
[X] Steven Kodaly
[X] sunrise
[X] tzar1990
[X] veekie
[X][TAUNI] Release the Miranda-B design to the SGC, and recommend the SGC build a Miranda-B instead of a cruiser (-15 pp, +10 on [Fool me once...], Tauni will build a Miranda-B starting in 2326.Q2)
No. of Votes: 8
[X] Random Member
[X] Dermon
[X] Enerael
[X] Goat
[X] JesseJ
[X] Mr Tebbs
[X] PauliExklusor
[X] slybrarian
[X] Dermon
[X] Enerael
[X] Goat
[X] JesseJ
[X] Mr Tebbs
[X] PauliExklusor
[X] slybrarian
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Task: DEFENCE
[X][DEFENCE] Encourage the Rigellians to reduce the scale of their planned auxiliary shipyard complex at Abadan for a year. (-40 pp, two additional ep and 20 sp will be loaned to the Tauni for further support, 2x1mt and 2x400kt auxiliary berths delayed 1 year, gain +25 on [Fool me once...])
No. of Votes: 12
[X] Raw90
[X] Alliterate
[X] Anime_Fan35
[X] Briefvoice
[X] Goat
[X] kimagurena
[X] kyuden
[X] Maelore
[X] me.me.here
[X] Night
[X] Simon_Jester
[X] slybrarian
[X] Alliterate
[X] Anime_Fan35
[X] Briefvoice
[X] Goat
[X] kimagurena
[X] kyuden
[X] Maelore
[X] me.me.here
[X] Night
[X] Simon_Jester
[X] slybrarian
[X][DEFENCE] Encourage the Ked Paddah to delay expansion of the shipyard at Gad for a year (-45 pp, two additional ep and 20 sp will be loaned to the Tauni for further support, one 1mt berth delayed 1 year, gain +25 on [Fool me once...])
No. of Votes: 11
[X] Godwinson
[X] Commotion$ocks
[X] Derpmind
[X] Gingganz
[X] Hadanelith
[X] JesseJ
[X] Jrin
[X] Random Member
[X] Steven Kodaly
[X] sunrise
[X] veekie
[X] Commotion$ocks
[X] Derpmind
[X] Gingganz
[X] Hadanelith
[X] JesseJ
[X] Jrin
[X] Random Member
[X] Steven Kodaly
[X] sunrise
[X] veekie
[X][DEFENCE] Encourage the Honiani to delay expansion of the Soulforge shipyard at Vail for a year (-50 pp, two additional ep and 20 sp will be loaned to the Tauni for further support, 2x815kt berths delayed 1 year, gain +25 on [Fool me once...])
No. of Votes: 3
[X][DEFENCE] Provide additional supply only (-10 pp, Lose -5 on [Fool me once...])
No. of Votes: 1
[X] Enerael
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Task: LAIO
[X][LAIO] Construct a starbase over Laian, using Laio engineering support (-30 pp, -0 ep, a Starfleet Starbase will be built over Laian)
No. of Votes: 26
[X] Godwinson
[X] Alliterate
[X] Anime_Fan35
[X] Briefvoice
[X] Commotion$ocks
[X] Dermon
[X] Derpmind
[X] Enerael
[X] Gingganz
[X] Goat
[X] Hadanelith
[X] JesseJ
[X] Jrin
[X] kimagurena
[X] kyuden
[X] Maelore
[X] me.me.here
[X] Mr Tebbs
[X] Night
[X] Random Member
[X] Raw90
[X] Simon_Jester
[X] slybrarian
[X] Steven Kodaly
[X] sunrise
[X] veekie
[X] Alliterate
[X] Anime_Fan35
[X] Briefvoice
[X] Commotion$ocks
[X] Dermon
[X] Derpmind
[X] Enerael
[X] Gingganz
[X] Goat
[X] Hadanelith
[X] JesseJ
[X] Jrin
[X] kimagurena
[X] kyuden
[X] Maelore
[X] me.me.here
[X] Mr Tebbs
[X] Night
[X] Random Member
[X] Raw90
[X] Simon_Jester
[X] slybrarian
[X] Steven Kodaly
[X] sunrise
[X] veekie
[X][LAIO] Transfer the retired Constitution-B class cruisers USS Saratoga and VCS Eridani to the Laio (-10 pp to bring the hulls back to active use, Laio will retire two obsolete Explorers in favor of the cruisers)
No. of Votes: 24
[X] Godwinson
[X] Alliterate
[X] Anime_Fan35
[X] Briefvoice
[X] Commotion$ocks
[X] Dermon
[X] Derpmind
[X] Gingganz
[X] Hadanelith
[X] JesseJ
[X] Jrin
[X] kimagurena
[X] kyuden
[X] Maelore
[X] me.me.here
[X] Mr Tebbs
[X] Night
[X] PauliExklusor
[X] Random Member
[X] Raw90
[X] Simon_Jester
[X] Steven Kodaly
[X] sunrise
[X] veekie
[X] Alliterate
[X] Anime_Fan35
[X] Briefvoice
[X] Commotion$ocks
[X] Dermon
[X] Derpmind
[X] Gingganz
[X] Hadanelith
[X] JesseJ
[X] Jrin
[X] kimagurena
[X] kyuden
[X] Maelore
[X] me.me.here
[X] Mr Tebbs
[X] Night
[X] PauliExklusor
[X] Random Member
[X] Raw90
[X] Simon_Jester
[X] Steven Kodaly
[X] sunrise
[X] veekie
[X][LAIO] Federalize, refit, and transfer 3 Miranda-Bs next year (+3 pp, +30 br, +30 sr, three Miranda-Bs to be transferred upon completion of refit, replacing obsolete Laian frigates)
No. of Votes: 21
[X] Godwinson
[X] Alliterate
[X] Anime_Fan35
[X] Briefvoice
[X] Commotion$ocks
[X] Derpmind
[X] Gingganz
[X] Goat
[X] Hadanelith
[X] kimagurena
[X] kyuden
[X] Maelore
[X] me.me.here
[X] Mr Tebbs
[X] PauliExklusor
[X] Random Member
[X] Simon_Jester
[X] slybrarian
[X] Steven Kodaly
[X] sunrise
[X] veekie
[X] Alliterate
[X] Anime_Fan35
[X] Briefvoice
[X] Commotion$ocks
[X] Derpmind
[X] Gingganz
[X] Goat
[X] Hadanelith
[X] kimagurena
[X] kyuden
[X] Maelore
[X] me.me.here
[X] Mr Tebbs
[X] PauliExklusor
[X] Random Member
[X] Simon_Jester
[X] slybrarian
[X] Steven Kodaly
[X] sunrise
[X] veekie
[X][LAIO] Transfer 3 additional Miranda-Bs to the Laio ASAP (+6 pp, transfer USS Lion, USS Eketha, and USS Shield to Laio upon completion of their refits, replacing Laian frigates)
No. of Votes: 12
[X] Godwinson
[X] Derpmind
[X] Hadanelith
[X] JesseJ
[X] me.me.here
[X] Night
[X] PauliExklusor
[X] Random Member
[X] Simon_Jester
[X] Steven Kodaly
[X] sunrise
[X] veekie
[X] Derpmind
[X] Hadanelith
[X] JesseJ
[X] me.me.here
[X] Night
[X] PauliExklusor
[X] Random Member
[X] Simon_Jester
[X] Steven Kodaly
[X] sunrise
[X] veekie
[X][LAIO] Support the Laio as they begin to mobilize their economy (-55 pp, Laio will mobilize* their economy an additional step; this will lead to a harder post-crisis industrial crash)
No. of Votes: 2
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Task: SHIELD
[X][SHIELD] Recommend the Amarki be permitted to deploy as a backstop to the ISC, defending an ally against the Harmony while remaining relatively close to the GBZ (-25 pp, the ISC will appreciate this)
No. of Votes: 19
[X] Godwinson
[X] Anime_Fan35
[X] Briefvoice
[X] Commotion$ocks
[X] Dermon
[X] Derpmind
[X] Enerael
[X] Gingganz
[X] Glassware
[X] Goat
[X] kimagurena
[X] kyuden
[X] Maelore
[X] Mr Tebbs
[X] Night
[X] PauliExklusor
[X] Random Member
[X] slybrarian
[X] Steven Kodaly
[X] Anime_Fan35
[X] Briefvoice
[X] Commotion$ocks
[X] Dermon
[X] Derpmind
[X] Enerael
[X] Gingganz
[X] Glassware
[X] Goat
[X] kimagurena
[X] kyuden
[X] Maelore
[X] Mr Tebbs
[X] Night
[X] PauliExklusor
[X] Random Member
[X] slybrarian
[X] Steven Kodaly
[X][SHIELD] Approve the Amarki request (-20 pp, sizable Amarki fleet assets, including all three available Riala-A battleships (to be replaced by Riala-Bs upon conclusion of refits), to be deployed to Honiani space, increase event rate in Amarki space one stage for the duration of the crisis)
No. of Votes: 5
[X][SHIELD] Recommend the Amarki reduce the scale of their deployment to Honiani space (-38 pp, a smaller Amarki force (led by a single Riala-A) will be deployed to Honiani space)
No. of Votes: 3
Total No. of Voters: 32
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Night
Widow Null
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To some extent they've gotta keep a lot of their fleet in service because of Breeeeeen whom they cannnot turn their backs on, and the Klingons. They can't pull down a quarter of their heavies for a refit. So refits are trickling out, focusing on Khellians first because of their early launch.
Forgothrax
Not Going Gently
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Remember that refits should be done when you can't build new ships. Building new hulls is almost always superior if you can afford it. If they have enough resources to fill all their slips, having more ships even if some are sub par is the best option.
Romulan Capitals
The Devoras (C6 S3 H3 L6 P5 D6, 2.7 Mt) is their 2300s Capital design. It is long overdue for a refit.
The Khellian (C9 S7 H7 L9 P4 D6, 2.4 Mt) is their successor class, with better stats despite being lighter. The entire completed line needs a refit from being rushed construction, having been pushed out of the construction yards as soon as they were bolted together during the Romulan/Klingon war.
I don't know if the wiki list of shipyards for the Romulans is still correct (it is from the last intel report, so hopefully correct), if they have the resources, then they have 4 yards capable of handling these vessels for refit/new construction, with a total of 9 berths of sufficient size (Two yards for 5 berths at Romulus, one yard as Remus with 2 berths and one yard at Devoras for the final two berths of sufficient size).
At the last intel report, there were 2 new Khellians under construction. Intel has not listed any ongoing Devoras refits - whether they are not yet started, they simply cannot afford it or our spies just don't know about them *shrugs*
We believe they are planning a ~2328 Khellian II refit, but have no idea of the new stat line.
The Devoras (C6 S3 H3 L6 P5 D6, 2.7 Mt) is their 2300s Capital design. It is long overdue for a refit.
The Khellian (C9 S7 H7 L9 P4 D6, 2.4 Mt) is their successor class, with better stats despite being lighter. The entire completed line needs a refit from being rushed construction, having been pushed out of the construction yards as soon as they were bolted together during the Romulan/Klingon war.
I don't know if the wiki list of shipyards for the Romulans is still correct (it is from the last intel report, so hopefully correct), if they have the resources, then they have 4 yards capable of handling these vessels for refit/new construction, with a total of 9 berths of sufficient size (Two yards for 5 berths at Romulus, one yard as Remus with 2 berths and one yard at Devoras for the final two berths of sufficient size).
At the last intel report, there were 2 new Khellians under construction. Intel has not listed any ongoing Devoras refits - whether they are not yet started, they simply cannot afford it or our spies just don't know about them *shrugs*
We believe they are planning a ~2328 Khellian II refit, but have no idea of the new stat line.
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Enerael
We Shall Wake to Sanity
Note, these are the old stats. Large ships got quite a boost in the new system.
For example, old Excelsior profile:
Excelsior-A 2287-Now [511m, 2.3m t]
C7 S6 H4 L6 P6 D6
Cost [230br 160sr, 4 years], Crew [O-6, E-5, T-5]
New one:
Excelsior-A
2400kt 4 Years +0% Ev +5% Pen +0.5% Crit
C8 S8 H7 L8 P7 E12 R11
240 BR 180 SR 6O 8EN 6T SP 3.5
Peacekeeping, Intel Ops
But yeah, Devoras need one hell of a refit. They are worse combatants than Excelsior-As while being far worse at S and P and +300kt larger. And Khellian looks like an old system Ex-B with worse P to me.
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Enerael
We Shall Wake to Sanity
Btw, it occurs to me that due to the platform that Devoras use, if they get boosted by +100kt to 2.8mt (odd weight large capitals like 2.7mt not being a thing anymore due to overweight slots) they would be using the exact same number of parts as our Excelsiors, while paying +40br +28sr each.
Heh.
+4 max slots used to be a massive difference... not so much now unfortunately.
Heh.
+4 max slots used to be a massive difference... not so much now unfortunately.