TFW you think you're ahead because you're so far behind you can't see the leaders anymore.
Horizon got a special bonus with the OSA due to certain guarantees made during the Coreward Border War. Otherwise the value would be much lower.Doesn't seem like it had much of an effect. The Licori and Bolians are a bit hard to judge so lets compare the two races we've primarily been fighting over; the OSA and Felis:
League of Independent Felis Colonies 100/300So the OSA have almost double the progress on their Influence Tag (+128) but if we look at their respective relations with Harmony:
-[Horizon Influence 154/300]
Outer Space Alliance: 210/300
-[Horizon Influence: 282/300]
OSA: Harmony relations now 185/300The OSA is only 15pts behind the Felis. A 128pt difference, or about 32 ship-quarters, resulting in a 15pt difference tells me either there was no effect or it was so small it might as well not exist.
Felis: Harmony relations now 200/300
At the TF log:
[X][CONNIE] Transfer one to the Preservation Coalition Space Bureau of the OSA (-10 pp, +16 relations with Outer Space Alliance)
These are kind of things we should hear about when our task forces, diplomats and intel operate in the area.Horizon got a special bonus with the OSA due to certain guarantees made during the Coreward Border War. Otherwise the value would be much lower.
I actually forgot to mention it this update but will try to expound on it in the next one.These are kind of things we should hear about when our task forces, diplomats and intel operate in the area.
RESULTS
OSA: Harmony relations now 185/300, UFP relations now 236/300
Felis: Harmony relations now 200/300, UFP relations now 108/300
Bolians: Harmony relations now 100/100, 7/100 on their isolationist government tag. UFP 100/100, 27/100 on Isolationist government.
Licori: Harmony Relations 100/100, UFP relations 81/100.
I do like this. Iz good!In hopes of cheering the thread up a bit, I present early modelling work on @Ato's Comet design:
Most of the detail work so far has gone into the nacelles, hence the close-up on those.
(Edit: click to see at better quality)
I've been contemplating that the Licori might try to covertly obtain, or re-invent, the cloaking device for about the past ten years of game time...They have the same stats... they just added cloaked devices.
(ROMULAN INTENSIFIES)
That's a joke.... but it could be true.
EDIT: Actually, I'll go all the way.
PREDICTION
Massive Romulan-Licori deal. In return for the Arcadian Empire swearing vassalage to the Romulan Star Empire as a sub-kingdom, the Licori have been provided with cloaking technology. You lose, Federation/HoH!
The Licori ban may be temporary; I'm sure the commander on the spot will do their best.So since we cant go for the licori, can we shift beyonds focus to osa and felis?
I'm... kind of inclined to agree, not necessarily specifically with this, but that a very large amount of sunk cost went into dealing with those [Harmony Influence] tags and it's not at all clear whether any of that effort still exists. It may not actually be the case that the contributions and efforts of our ships in the past got retconned out of existence , but it looks like that, which really hurts.Removing the Horizon tag for the OSA especially when it is so close to completion is kind of a gutpunch. Even more so when we were promised that the 300 tag would be the last Horizon influence this kind of just invalidates the whole tag system.
This whole thing seems like one more delaying action.
Yeh.It's not surprising, but it is a violation of the explicit promise that there was an endgame and we wouldn't have to race the HoH all the way to membership. I get it; sometimes GMs have to break promises when things just don't work out mechanically/narratively. But it does burn a little.
Oh? Would you mind going into detail on how that worked? I know you normally like to keep mechanics like this a bit opaque, but right now people are a bit unhappy about the idea that our ships' previous effort to buy down those [Harmony Influence] tags was a complete waste of time, so explaining in detail just what happened to all that work would probably help.The Horizon Influence tag progress didn't just go "poof". It had an effect on the final Harmony relations score.
Er, could you expand on what you mean by this? Does the Harmony get a bonus to its relations (and effectively its ability to stop them joining us) because of its interactions with the ISC? What's the ISC's relations with the Felis; do they have anything to show for their sizeable commitment of ships whose Presence stat is, if not stunning, at least not low?E: also, Felis relations takes into account their progress made against the ISC as well.
In hopes of cheering the thread up a bit, I present early modelling work on @Ato's Comet design:
In hopes of cheering the thread up a bit, I present early modelling work on @Ato's Comet design:
Most of the detail work so far has gone into the nacelles, hence the close-up on those.
(Edit: click to see at better quality)
In hopes of cheering the thread up a bit, I present early modelling work on @Ato's Comet design:
I'm not sure what you mean by that?
We have about 30 rennies so we can do both the P10 and the C7 refits but i expect we are going to do mostly P10 refits next year.Yeah, I'm really leaning towards the P10-Refit Rennie proposals. I don't really care anymore that we'd have to take Rennies off the line to Refit them, we can just build more to replace them.
We have about 30 rennies so we can do both the P10 and the C7 refits but i expect we are going to do mostly P10 refits next year.
I am still not sold on deflector above the saucer but this design is quite nice. It gives a vibe of "I am a fast ship built to go in harm's way."Dat first image! The Comet is really channeling the Miranda there.
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Really like the front and side profiles of the Comet. It's aggressive but also recognizably Starfleet.
While that might be the deflector (I'm not convinced, it looks a bit small), that box-on-top is the 'Miranda Rollbar' External Science Sensor Module, without which the Comet is navigationally blind. So the Comet inherits more than just the front profile from the Miranda.I am still not sold on deflector above the saucer but this design is quite nice. It gives a vibe of "I am a fast ship built to go in harm's way."
When does the Comet prototype finish construction? Or more accurately when does the Comet production begin in earnest?
1 Comet-class Prototype (NX-5101) @ Intazzi Shipyards Berth 2 (ETC 2325.Q3 - Crews deduct 2324.Q3)
So I guess the answer to how many we are going to build is all of them?
What we really need is a massive wave of Rennie-P or Prepler production at thus point.