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- Infraspace
I mean, Canada → Canadian, so why not Vega → Vegian?Aaand this is why I deliberately misspell it.
To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
- Thread starter OneirosTheWriter
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- Aotearoa
Venucks.
- Location
- alphen aan den rijn
veganian ?
maybe not sure
maybe not sure
- Location
- Kansas City area
Is that Perhaps Lwaxana Troy before she is married?
No you are correct. I copied the wrong part of the Wolfram Alpha output.
Artificial Intelligence defeated by natural stupidity once again.
I understand the answer to be a very qualified yes, with drastically diminishing returns if the TF gets "too large" for the situation and most ships end up sitting idle. That is, the basic situation generates some events and then each ship adds some much smaller chance of generating events.
WoG: Kind of, but too big a TF is a waste of resources.
ClawClawBite
Mad Engineering!
- Location
- Seattle, WA
No, that is an OC I created a long time ago. Aliens don't get unique names. Lwaxana Troy never served in Starfleet. This one is the daughter of the Betazoid detective who was most recently seen investigating the OSA mess.
Jenny
anonymous user
- Location
- maryland
- Pronouns
- She/Her
Not sure where you get that understanding from; sorry if we confused you.
More ships = more chances for events. Period.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Only if we posit that Lwaxana Troi was secretly the daughter of a hardboiled Betazoid police detective, and worked for Starfleet. I have a hard time visualizing the breezy, mind-intrusive 'grand dame' played by Majel Barrett in the TNG era with "I was a Starfleet security chief."
I'm pretty sure that 'Lwaxana' is just a name common enough among Betazoids that there are quite a few Lwaxanas on the planet, so Dearre Nixa, the Betazoid noir detective, just happened to name her daughter that some time in the 2290s or so.
I think the reason is that our main go-to example for a task force that had very large ship numbers for a long time is Task Force Boldly, the one working on the Harmony's influence. And by and large, that task force has gotten lower per-ship return on investment than our other ones.
This may lead people to think that the problem is that the task force is too big to be efficient, when in reality it's just that they're up against harder events.
2324.Q4 - Honiani, Yan-Ros, Obar - Pt 2
- Location
- Australia
From Vail come the Yan-Ros, and from Nahr the Obar, joining the Honiani on their homeworld of Okatha. Tourists have been arriving for months in the lead-up, piled aboard every passenger ship or tramp that the Honiani could beg borrow or steal. In their multitudes they have descended on the grounds of the Koliate Tower to witness a new dawn for the Star-Kin. The long-running debates, not just in the lofty halls of power but also in the public houses and the family dining rooms, have run their course. In some corners the animosity remains, but for the great majority a bold new course is set.
As much of the Honiani fleet as could be safely managed is present, keeping a graceful synchronous orbit over the capital. But the clear centrepiece of the fleet, flanked by two of its smaller sisters, is the Basilica of Lakhept. Four million tons of starship with one of the most painstakingly crafted artifices, with artworks from the great prow on back. The bridge is spacious even by the standards of capital ships but today it is crowded near shoulder to shoulder across the back with observers. The head of the service is there, though he like many of the others will transport off before the Lakhept leaves orbit. Along with him are the heads of major monastic orders, Ranger Superintendents and trainers, and ranking members of the Obar. Civilian starships cluster around like a constellation, everything from interstellar auxiliaries in-system ships, to what are basically family houseboats. They cannot come to close, but they cluster as they dare, everyone wanting a look at history.
The arrival of Starfleet's envoy is tracked by a triangulated sensor take from not just the Starbase, but outposts in outlying planets, her arrival known to the second. Once the Enterprise cuts the warp drive and drops back to impulse, the feed from Okatha Starbase is beamed groundside. Public displays, screens in restaurants, pubs, and clubs, private monitors, almost no one is drawn to anything else. Across the entire planet activity crashes to a halt. The Ambassador-class explorer is an object of wonder. It carries so many of the design motifs so familiar from the Excelsiors and Renaissances they have known, but now in amazing flares and smooth curves, three million tons of starship more advanced than any they have known before. This ship in particular has the mystique of Captain Zhang, who was once the exchange first officer of the Basilica of Lakhept herself. But arguably even more, word of the mural the Captain started has caused a stir among the populace; a little piece of their culture already proudly nestled within the great tapestry of the Federation.
The only thing that throws even the slightest shadow across the historic day is the unexpected observer from the Harmony. The HPDV Sanctuary, detached from the Homeguard segment, arrived without escort, fulfilling the loosely worded allowance from the hosts of one observer. The staggeringly large vessel with its distinctive ring-mounted nacelles and central fuselage cuts an ominous figure as it sits amidst the civilian traffic like a magnetyrant among tribbles.
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The Honiani, Yan-Ros, and Obar are now full members
Gain +35 Political Will, +15 Research Points
Star-Kin Councillors Selected:
Councillor Jemas Stiel of Vail (Development)
Councillor Amabalis of Nahr (Pacifist)
Councillor Chellis Etoc of Okatha (Expansionist)
Councillor Rodan Talcragge of Ucuta (Expansionist)
Councillor Edar Evrenoch of Becarra (Development)
Councillor Ilbra Gant of Canun (Hawk)
Contribution increases to 135br, 80sr, 10rp, 10pp, 1.5 Officer, 2 Enlisted, 1.75 Technician from 65br, 30sr, 5rp, 5pp, 0.45 Officer, 0.55 Enlisted, 0.5 Technician
Okatha Sector
Major World: Vail
- Installations: Starbase 26, Soulforge Yard [1 x 2500kt, 2 x 1000kt]
Major World: Nahr
- Installations: Starbase 27, Obar Orbital Moot [3 x 1000kt]
Major World: Ucuta
- Installations: Outpost I, Forge of Wonders [2 x 1200kt]
Major World: Becarra
- Installations: Saiya Exultant (Auxiliary) Yard [3 x 1000kt], Outpost I
Major World: Canun
- Installations: Outpost I
As much of the Honiani fleet as could be safely managed is present, keeping a graceful synchronous orbit over the capital. But the clear centrepiece of the fleet, flanked by two of its smaller sisters, is the Basilica of Lakhept. Four million tons of starship with one of the most painstakingly crafted artifices, with artworks from the great prow on back. The bridge is spacious even by the standards of capital ships but today it is crowded near shoulder to shoulder across the back with observers. The head of the service is there, though he like many of the others will transport off before the Lakhept leaves orbit. Along with him are the heads of major monastic orders, Ranger Superintendents and trainers, and ranking members of the Obar. Civilian starships cluster around like a constellation, everything from interstellar auxiliaries in-system ships, to what are basically family houseboats. They cannot come to close, but they cluster as they dare, everyone wanting a look at history.
The arrival of Starfleet's envoy is tracked by a triangulated sensor take from not just the Starbase, but outposts in outlying planets, her arrival known to the second. Once the Enterprise cuts the warp drive and drops back to impulse, the feed from Okatha Starbase is beamed groundside. Public displays, screens in restaurants, pubs, and clubs, private monitors, almost no one is drawn to anything else. Across the entire planet activity crashes to a halt. The Ambassador-class explorer is an object of wonder. It carries so many of the design motifs so familiar from the Excelsiors and Renaissances they have known, but now in amazing flares and smooth curves, three million tons of starship more advanced than any they have known before. This ship in particular has the mystique of Captain Zhang, who was once the exchange first officer of the Basilica of Lakhept herself. But arguably even more, word of the mural the Captain started has caused a stir among the populace; a little piece of their culture already proudly nestled within the great tapestry of the Federation.
The only thing that throws even the slightest shadow across the historic day is the unexpected observer from the Harmony. The HPDV Sanctuary, detached from the Homeguard segment, arrived without escort, fulfilling the loosely worded allowance from the hosts of one observer. The staggeringly large vessel with its distinctive ring-mounted nacelles and central fuselage cuts an ominous figure as it sits amidst the civilian traffic like a magnetyrant among tribbles.
==============================
The Honiani, Yan-Ros, and Obar are now full members
Gain +35 Political Will, +15 Research Points
Star-Kin Councillors Selected:
Councillor Jemas Stiel of Vail (Development)
Councillor Amabalis of Nahr (Pacifist)
Councillor Chellis Etoc of Okatha (Expansionist)
Councillor Rodan Talcragge of Ucuta (Expansionist)
Councillor Edar Evrenoch of Becarra (Development)
Councillor Ilbra Gant of Canun (Hawk)
Contribution increases to 135br, 80sr, 10rp, 10pp, 1.5 Officer, 2 Enlisted, 1.75 Technician from 65br, 30sr, 5rp, 5pp, 0.45 Officer, 0.55 Enlisted, 0.5 Technician
Okatha Sector
Homeworld: Okatha
- Installations: Starbase 25/Okatha Starbase [Starbase I], Cathedralforge Yards (1x4000kt, 2x2500kt)
- Local Currently: 1 Basilica of Lakhept, 2 Basilica, 1 Cathedral, 4 Reliquary, 3 Chapel, 10 Monastery, 3 Parish
- Merchant Marine: 47 Civilian Ship, 44 Cargo Ship, 29 Freighter, 5 Passenger, 8 Engineering, 5 Prospector, 5 Colony Ship, 4 Hospital Ship, 7 Research Cruiser, 7 Super-Freighter
- Installations: Starbase 25/Okatha Starbase [Starbase I], Cathedralforge Yards (1x4000kt, 2x2500kt)
- Local Currently: 1 Basilica of Lakhept, 2 Basilica, 1 Cathedral, 4 Reliquary, 3 Chapel, 10 Monastery, 3 Parish
- Merchant Marine: 47 Civilian Ship, 44 Cargo Ship, 29 Freighter, 5 Passenger, 8 Engineering, 5 Prospector, 5 Colony Ship, 4 Hospital Ship, 7 Research Cruiser, 7 Super-Freighter
Major World: Vail
- Installations: Starbase 26, Soulforge Yard [1 x 2500kt, 2 x 1000kt]
Major World: Nahr
- Installations: Starbase 27, Obar Orbital Moot [3 x 1000kt]
Major World: Ucuta
- Installations: Outpost I, Forge of Wonders [2 x 1200kt]
Major World: Becarra
- Installations: Saiya Exultant (Auxiliary) Yard [3 x 1000kt], Outpost I
Major World: Canun
- Installations: Outpost I
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Yay!
Also, wow that's a nice smooth contribution to the Council in terms of being not super-disruptive, though I suppose it does slightly decrease the relative strength of the Pacifists again. The Pacifiists are in coalition with Development, right?
Also, wow that's a nice smooth contribution to the Council in terms of being not super-disruptive, though I suppose it does slightly decrease the relative strength of the Pacifists again. The Pacifiists are in coalition with Development, right?
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
I don't think it's that big of a kick in the teeth; it decreases their relative power but not by much. Not every vote is along strict party lines, I imagine.
Also, honestly, I don't feel like "pacifists get kicked" is inherently a good thing.
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Perhaps but I don't like the fact they stall the whole process for quite a while, its like maintaining an adequate wall while Starfleet could upgrade it to a better standard.
How many times where we want to build or influence something in Honiani sector that we can't due to the fact they're still independent territory and we have wait until now.
- Location
- Illinois
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Oh come on HoH. A Sanctuary-class? Just can't let the Honiani have pride of place with Basilica of Lakhept?
Otherwise, a smooth ratification in all ways. More resources, more crew, a perfectly even mix of parties, and most importantly, an interesting civilization, an entire mini-Fed, added on.
Enerael
We Shall Wake to Sanity
We now have a starbase per square, if not right on the border. That is quite acceptable. Also, if we have the PP and engineering teams to spare, Risa gets the first one. Then Caldonia.
Edit:
Prez had a good point though. We were already stretched pretty thin, ship wise. She was trying to prepare us for it with the Federalization.
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AKuz
Been Better
- Location
- A Rising Tide of Horrors
- Pronouns
- She/Her
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Re: Upcoming omake...
So. The first OSA warship destroyed in the recent war was a mercenary Klingon Bird-of-Prey Mk II, christened by Gumco the Quick Bubbles. I noted that.
And then I remembered that Sombré Boiys, the Licori captain from Harmony, was originally intended as a Duncan Idaho expy- with all that this implies. I wanted to take a look at Klingon culture through the lens of someone else's dueling-honor culture.
And an omake practically plotted itself, though writing it took a while. Suffice to say that this is one corner of infinite diversity that probably could never happen in the Federation, but it sort of bookends the character I didn't really get to do much with before.
"It's not her being big I mind, it's that creepy Stepford wife smile she has on, pluuus the razordeathbats hiding under the surface."
[Points to door marked "HARMONY SPIRIT WORLD" with several planks nailed over it.]
"You do NOT want to go there!"
So. The first OSA warship destroyed in the recent war was a mercenary Klingon Bird-of-Prey Mk II, christened by Gumco the Quick Bubbles. I noted that.
And then I remembered that Sombré Boiys, the Licori captain from Harmony, was originally intended as a Duncan Idaho expy- with all that this implies. I wanted to take a look at Klingon culture through the lens of someone else's dueling-honor culture.
And an omake practically plotted itself, though writing it took a while. Suffice to say that this is one corner of infinite diversity that probably could never happen in the Federation, but it sort of bookends the character I didn't really get to do much with before.
Hm. I see your point. In general, the Pacifists don't deserve kickings, but in this specific case their desire to keep the Star-Kin out of the Federation seems to have been motivated more by a desire to retain power than by ideals. And this has materially complicated the task of providing a defense for the Federation, rather than just preventing us from attacking others. So them getting a bit of a kicking is... fair.
Enterprise:
"It's not her being big I mind, it's that creepy Stepford wife smile she has on, pluuus the razordeathbats hiding under the surface."
[Points to door marked "HARMONY SPIRIT WORLD" with several planks nailed over it.]
"You do NOT want to go there!"
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Random Member
Gardener of Human Happiness
- Location
- Behind You
What? No, they were perfectly fine with the Starkin integrating so long as it was done after Federalization, because they didn't want to take the chance that their accession would throw a spanner in the works.
But the major worlds of Ucuta, Becarra, Canun are all outposts so it could be better.
I'm fine with Risa but why Caldonia?
The Klingon is no threat at the moment, sure there's time.
Theunderbolt
"Prepare for trouble..."
- Location
- USoA
Today was a victory for Friendship!
I wouldn't mind getting them upgraded now than having to rush for them later in case something goes wrong.
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
Eh, okay, I'm being a bit uncharitable, but that's still basically the same issue I just described. They're delaying integration of a polity that arguably needs protection because it might somehow politically disrupt their pet project. That's not a super-unforgivable crime or anything, but it's the kind of thing that they deserve to get stung a little for.
[hides the Apiata]
Klingons are Klingons and could attack at any time, while the Harmony of Horizon has zero desire to start shit.
Good time to order a major development project like the next super-shipyard, I guess.