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Guys I was seriously asking if Mpek was an AI? IF he isnt one than what species is he since I cant find that information on the thread.
 
Steven Kodaly said:
I don't see that happening in the next couple years; we're already throwing everything we've got into efforts to counter the Harmony of Horizon and Hishmeri.
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The Hishmeri really shouldn't be all that long term of a project. They only have a x/100 tag to stop their raids, and it's already partially filled in. We just had bad luck. I have high hopes TF Shield can be disbanded before year's end.
 
Briefvoice said:
The Hishmeri really shouldn't be all that long term of a project. They only have a x/100 tag to stop their raids, and it's already partially filled in. We just had bad luck. I have high hopes TF Shield can be disbanded before year's end.
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After them I'd give the Gorn higher priority for a Task Force, though. Unless we want to deploy even more task forces...
 
75% Certain said:
Real talk: do we even want the Felis? Their government is annoying to deal with and their culture is like a worse version of members we already have. Their position sucks, too. The way I see it, every diplomatic effort spent on the Felis is effort that could be better spent on the Bolians, Laio, and OSA.

Edit: for god's sake, they aren't even our first cats
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With this attitude we wouldn't have the Gaeni or the Ked Paddah.

EDIT: Also worth mentioning: Maiden of Dawn, unlike Mipek, seems to be a hardware-based AI. I am unsure it is capable of existing outside its current system architecture from description. We seem to be collecting a set.

(Also thank you for not being V'Ger, Maiden.)
 
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Night said:
With this attitude we wouldn't have the Gaeni or the Ked Paddah.

EDIT: Also worth mentioning: Maiden of Dawn, unlike Mipek, seems to be a hardware-based AI. I am unsure it is capable of existing outside its current system architecture from description. We seem to be collecting a set.

(Also thank you for not being V'Ger, Maiden.)
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That's not quite right. For one, the Gaeni were never a question of "if" because we've never had competition. The Ked Peddah, on the other hand, basically fell into our lap thanks to the Licori's antics. Like the Padani, the KP seem to have caution and sensibility as their hat and are very unlikely to make us want to tear our hair out.
 
Other than the Licori war, we haven't had a single major or minor crisis with the KP. They sponsor no annoying resistance groups, no criminal syndicates, no logic-terrorists. They have had no diplomatic block tags. They seem to even have affected the RNG because they rarely come up on event tables if ever. I think the KP are actually our most well-behaved prospective member we've ever had.
 
75% Certain said:
The Ked Peddah, on the other hand, basically fell into our lap thanks to the Licori's antics. Like the Padani, the KP seem to have caution and sensibility as their hat and are very unlikely to make us want to tear our hair out.
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You missed the point, it was over there.

You're talking about how the Felis are basically duplicates. The thing is, the Ked Paddah's emphasis on prudence and safety shares a lot with the Vulcans. We wanted them anyways and got them anyways. The Gaeni's emphasis on science is duplicated more than once between the Licori, who we want anyways, and arguably the Vulcans again, and the Caldonians, who we wanted and got as well, and their culture was very much a worse version of our members. The Orions were a worse version of the Rigellians. Humans are probably a worse version of Vulcans in a lot of eyes outside the Federation, too.
 
Night said:
You missed the point, it was over there.

You're talking about how the Felis are basically duplicates. The thing is, the Ked Paddah's emphasis on prudence and safety shares a lot with the Vulcans. We wanted them anyways and got them anyways. The Gaeni's emphasis on science is duplicated more than once between the Licori, who we want anyways, and arguably the Vulcans again, and the Caldonians, who we wanted and got as well, and their culture was very much a worse version of our members. The Orions were a worse version of the Rigellians. Humans are probably a worse version of Vulcans in a lot of eyes outside the Federation, too.
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Careful, you're starting to sound like a min-maxer there. "Our adventuring party crew will only have the strongest species: One Vulcan, one Licori, one Rigellian, and one Yan-Ros!"
 
Derpmind said:
Careful, you're starting to sound like a min-maxer there. "Our adventuring party crew will only have the strongest species: One Vulcan, one Licori, one Rigellian, and one Yan-Ros!"
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You forgot a Betazoid to handle the psychic shit the Vulcan can't.

And maybe a Risan as Morale Officer.
 
Derpmind said:
Careful, you're starting to sound like a min-maxer there. "Our adventuring party crew will only have the strongest species: One Vulcan, one Licori, one Rigellian, and one Yan-Ros!"
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"When going for the Operations class you'd have to be brain dead to pick anything other than Orion or Rigellian, thanks to their powerful inherent bonuses of 1% greater resource extraction and 1% shield power efficiency, respectively. Even then, the meta is clear cut. Orion is interesting for someone looking to make a hoover build, but you get much more overall utility from the shield regeneration, and the Orion drawback of -0.5 corruption resistance sinks them compared to the relatively benign run speed drawback of the Rigellian.

The most clear cut track has to be Security, where you'd have to be fucking stupid not to pick a Yan Ros. Only people who do are roleplayers or trolls trying to make a Gaeni build work in the year of our Lord 20XX. Despite continual nerfing, including a new vulnerability to the Science class they remain dominant in the meta and look cool as hell too. They're even S tier in the Tactical track with the right specialization, tho less throughly represented in competitive circles."
 
Iron Wolf said:
"When going for the Operations class you'd have to be brain dead to pick anything other than Orion or Rigellian, thanks to their powerful inherent bonuses of 1% greater resource extraction and 1% shield power efficiency, respectively. Even then, the meta is clear cut. Orion is interesting for someone looking to make a hoover build, but you get much more overall utility from the shield regeneration, and the Orion drawback of -0.5 corruption resistance sinks them compared to the relatively benign run speed drawback of the Rigellian.

The most clear cut track has to be Security, where you'd have to be fucking stupid not to pick a Yan Ros. Only people who do are roleplayers or trolls trying to make a Gaeni build work in the year of our Lord 20XX. Despite continual nerfing, including a new vulnerability to the Science class they remain dominant in the meta and look cool as hell too. They're even S tier in the Tactical track with the right specialization, tho less throughly represented in competitive circles."
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"Though if we're going to be honest, no matter what rules changes we make and no matter what the relevant bonuses are, humans are by far the most popular choice of the playerbase for roleplaying reasons. Vulcans come in a decent second, and all the rest are far in the rear. Most players are casual and just there to have some fun."
 
Briefvoice said:
"Though if we're going to be honest, no matter what rules changes we make and no matter what the relevant bonuses are, humans are by far the most popular choice of the playerbase for roleplaying reasons. Vulcans come in a decent second, and all the rest are far in the rear. Most players are casual and just there to have some fun."
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I prefer to have fun and not have to deal with big complex plans and other stuff while not working IRL So that's why I leave the more serious stuff in the thread to the other players.
 
I have to commend the QMs for working through

27 total events this quarter

but holy shit that's

27 total events this quarter

I'm worried about our QM collective sanity going forward.

edit: This isn't new - we reached 28 total events in Q4 last year. But it's still worrying.


Important aside: we got net 62pp this quarter, and now total 256pp. So get to working, snakepit peeps.

UberJJK said:
The Felis are only useful for their geographical location. As things currently stand we have only two routes for corewards expansion:
1) Corewards of the GBZ; threading the needle between Dylaarian and ISC space.

2) Corewards-spinwards through Felis space; threading the needle between ISC and Horizon space.

Felis space was more important in the past since we weren't sure we'd have a corewards pass through the GBZ but now that we have it they are of lesser importance.
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@Simon_Jester is paranoid that Horizon affiliating the Felis will essentially bring their borders up to the ISC, and given the ISC's investigations of whether the Harmony of Horizon had wronged them in the past and how the ISC treats such threats... well, I'll let him elaborate more on that concern. It did result in a Hail Mary diplo push on the Felis last year.

Derpmind said:
I think at the time, someone pointed out that there were a couple of errors in it? Eh, it's close enough.
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They've been fixed.

Since then, we've had the following relation changes:

Ashidi: +10 to Cardassian Threat (now 98/300)
Chrystovians: +10 to Cardassian Neighbours (now 10/300)
Felis: +15 (now 73/100), -20 to Horizon Influence (now -35/100)
Trills: +20 (now 100/100, but still has 100-level tag blockers)
Gorn: +10 (now 35/100)
Ur'razzi: 15/100 (first contact)
-[Off to a Bad Start: 0/100]
-[Aggressive: 0/100]
-[Obsolete Technology: 0/300]

After the TF results this quarter, I'll try to come up with a 2322 pre-snakepit values post soon like I did last year.

Glassware said:
We're almost certainly gonna lose these guys to the Cardassians, aren't we.
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Unlikely, since:
a) -4f is within our Federation borders, in the Themis Border Zone just coreward of Indoria in fact
b) we're better at diplomacy than the Cardassians, and the Cardassians can't send a diplomatic TF within Federation borders
 
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