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Isn't that the local governor? Because that might be Kirk, playing the Quisling.
To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)
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I have to assume it's Spock since that way the Solarian rebellion would be led by Kirk/Spock and that level of gay is just about right for this quest. Also, it would let the TBG showrunners make Kirk/Spock canon and I don't see those beautiful lunatics passing up a chance like that.
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After the Nash harem ... that totally makes sense!
So while we're waiting, the deployment vote is coming up very soon. Here are your available ships:
Available ships in 2322.Q1:
Oberths – 4 [Torbriel, Inspire, Hawking (B), T'Mir (V)]
Miranda-A – 14 [Lion, Agile (B), Bon Vivant, Svai, Dryad (B), T'Kumbra, Shield, Intrepid, Eketha, Eclipse, Firefly, Calypso, Dynamo, Clarion]
Centaur-A – 4 [Lightning, Typhoon, Cloudburst, Gale (B)]
Centaur-B – 7 [Bull (B), Whale, Fluffy-Puffy, Sommerfield, Aurora, Yuudachi, Summerstorm]
Constellation-A – 8 [Kearsage (B), Triada, Challorn (B), Vigour (B), Selaya (B), Stalwart (B), Docana (B), Gerzzi]
Constitution-B – 6 (Exeter, Defiant, Valiant (B), Hood (B), Lexington, Saratoga, Korolev)
Renaissance – 13 [Torch, Justice, Emancipation, Suffrage, Enlightenment, Epiphany, Reason, Insight, Kir'shara, Incorruptible, Reformation, Concord, Enkindle, Zh'Mai]
Constitution-A 1 - [Cheron (V)]
Excelsior – None.
Excelsior-A – 11 (Salnas (B), Discovery, Sojourner, Frontier, Lakota, Zarayet, Endurance (B), Spirit, Thirishar (B), Excalibur, Avandar (B), Pathfinder (B))
In Refit- 2 Excelsiors (Rru'adorr (B), Pleezirra (B)), 2 Centaur-A (Yukikaze (B), Zephyr (B)), Torch (phaser array refit)
In Repair – None.
2322.Q2 changes: 3 Centaur-B [Winterwind, Chinook, Sirocco] complete refit. 1 Centaur-A [Gale (B)] goes into refit. 1 Kepler [Kepler] completes, 1 Renaissance [Ana Font Berth 1] completes. 1 Renaissance [Torch (pa)] completes phaser array refit
Net changes: +3 Centaur-B, -1 Centaur-A, +1 Kepler, +2 Renaissance
*(B) = Blooded, (V) = Veteran, (i) = isolinear, (pa) = phaser array
The following distribution, largely worked out by SWB and modified by me, covers sectors pretty well in my opinion. There are still a few two-ship sectors, but those few have two decent ships... not depending on Mirandas as second responders.
Sol Sector – Requires D18 (Supported by LBZ and SBZ)
So that leaves the following ships free for Task Forces:
Currently we have 8 points of member world ships, which we can retain for 20 pp. Let's say we do that. I'll pretty much keep the ships we have, though taking the liberty of replacing all member Centaur-As with Centaus-Bs.
Option 1 (using 8 points of member ships)
Member World Ships Retained in MWCD: Retain 8 points of ships and one cargo ship (20 pp)
Task Force: Beyond (assume continues to 2322)
-Mission: Counteract Horizon diplomatic efforts in the Horizon Border Zone region. (Name is a play on Beyond the Horizon.)
-Commander: Samhaya Mrr'shan - +1P to Flagship, reroll first failed combat roll each year
-Attachments: Free FDS Diplomatic Team attachment
-Ships: 1 Excelsior-A [Salnas (B)], NEW 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Pathfinder], 1 Constitution-A [Cheron], 1 Apiata Little Queenship, 2 Apiata Stingers, 1 United Earth Renaissance, 1 Orion Molhane Patrol Escort
-NEW In Q2, add 1 Centaur-B [Chinook] from refit and 1 Renaissance [Ana Font Berth 1] as it is completed.
So basically, in this version we add three ships to Beyond: a new Excelsior, a new Centaur-B, and a new Renaissance. This brings us up to 10 ships versus 10 ships, but note that our average P score is still less in many encoutners, as Scientist-class Harmony ships have 6P or more, and Centaur-B and Renaissance only have P4.
Task Force: Handshake (assume continues to 2322)
-Mission: Conduct covert diplomacy with the Dawiar. (Name is from secret handshakes.)
-Min-Jee Lee - +1 P on flagship
-Attachments: Free FDS Diplomatic Team attachment
-Ships: 1 Excelsior-A [Endurance (B)], 1 Oberth (T'Mir (V), 1 Arqueniou Leb Nin (free), 1 Rigellian Turtleship, 1 Betazoid Centaur-B
-NEW In Q2, add 1 Centaur-B [Sirocco] from refit.
Add a Centaur-B here... straightfoward.
Task Force: Shield (assume continues to 2322)
-Mission: Dissuade Hishmeri raiding.
-T'Mina - Reroll the first failed intercept each quarter.
-Attachments: None
-Ships: NEW 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Avandar (B)] (replaces Renaissance), 1 Tellarite Renaissance, NEW 2 Amarkian Centaur-B (switched out from Amarkian Centaur-A), 2 Amarkian Anacail
Not adding more ships, but swapped out the former Renaissance flagship for a blooded Excelsior i took from the Licori Border Zone. In addition, the Amarkian Centaur-As have been switched for Amarkian Centaur-Bs. This should result in considerably better performance.
[NEW] Task Force: Adazzi
-Mission [Explore the Adazzi Gulf]
-Straak - +15 BR/SR on the first resource gain of each quarter
-Attachments: Vulcan Science Academy Science Team. Cost: 5pp on Purchase, 5rp per year. Effect: Reroll first failed Science test involving an anomaly per quarter; All Pyllix Geological Institute Team. Cost: Free.
-Ships: 1 Excelsior-A [Excalibur], 2 Miranda-A [Agile (B), Dryad (B)], 1 Centaur-A [Gale (B)], 1 Oberth [Torbriel], 1 Forager
- In 2322.Q2 Gale goes into refit and is replaced by Kepler.
I put our two Blooded Miranda-As on this one, the Excakibut, and a Kepler.
Now let's look at Option 2, calling up an additional 8 points of member ships. Note that we may get a pp discount on this... the TF update noted that more member ships would "shake loose" in response to the successful Hishmeri raid. I will bold the 'new' ships being called up over Option 1.
Option 2 (using 16 points of member ships):
Member World Ships : Retain 8 points of ships for (20 pp) and call up another 8 points of ships (40pp) for 60 pp total
-Mission: Counteract Horizon diplomatic efforts in the Horizon Border Zone region. (Name is a play on Beyond the Horizon.)
-Commander: Samhaya Mrr'shan - +1P to Flagship, reroll first failed combat roll each year
-Attachments: Free FDS Diplomatic Team attachment
-Ships: 1 Excelsior-A [Salnas (B)], NEW 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Pathfinder], NEW Human Excelsior-A, NEW 1 Andorian Excelsior-A, 1 Constitution-A [Cheron], 1 Apiata Little Queenship, 2 Apiata Stingers, 1 United Earth Renaissance, NEW 1 Orion Nelhiar Savings & Loan Enforcer, 1 Orion Molhane Patrol Escort
-NEW In Q2, add 1 Centaur-B [Chinook] from refit and 1 Renaissance [Ana Font Berth 1] as it is completed.
So this version of Task Force Beyond adds an additional 2 Excelsior-As as well as a high-P Orion cruiser. We're now matching the Scientist classes with equivalent P or bigger ships, plus I'm pretty sure outdoing this escorts. Now it's 13 ships to their 10.
Task Force: Handshake (assume continues to 2322)
-Mission: Conduct covert diplomacy with the Dawiar. (Name is from secret handshakes.)
-Min-Jee Lee - +1 P on flagship
-Attachments: Free FDS Diplomatic Team attachment
-Ships: 1 Excelsior-A [Endurance (B)], 1 Oberth (T'Mir (V), NEW 1 Centaur-A [Gale (B)], 1 Arqueniou Leb Nin (free), 1 Rigellian Turtleship, NEW 1 Betazoid Centaur-B (switched out from Andorian Centaur-A)
-NEW In 2322.Q2 Gale goes into refit and is replaced by Kepler and 1 Centaur-B [Sirocco] aded from refit.
Sending the Kepler over to Task Force Handshake as the major change here.
Task Force: Shield (assume continues to 2322)
-Mission: Dissuade Hishmeri raiding.
-T'Mina - Reroll the first failed intercept each quarter.
-Attachments: None
-Ships: NEW 1 Amarki Riala, NEW 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Avandar (B)] (replaces Renaissance), 1 Tellarite Renaissance, NEW 2 Amarkian Centaur-B (switched out from Amarkian Centaur-A), 2 Amarkian Anacail
Added an Amarki Riala to the equation over the other version.
[NEW] Task Force: Adazzi
-Mission [Explore the Adazzi Gulf]
-Straak - +15 BR/SR on the first resource gain of each quarter
-Attachments: Vulcan Science Academy Science Team. Cost: 5pp on Purchase, 5rp per year. Effect: Reroll first failed Science test involving an anomaly per quarter; All Pyllix Geological Institute Team. Cost: Free.
-Ships: 1 Excelsior-A [Excalibur], 1 Gaeni Tech-Cruiser, 2 Miranda-A [Agile (B), Dryad (B)], 1 Oberth [Torbriel], 1 Forager
Since we sent the Kepler to Handshake, this one replaces it with a Gaeni Tech-Cruiser.
Thoughts?
Available ships in 2322.Q1:
Oberths – 4 [Torbriel, Inspire, Hawking (B), T'Mir (V)]
Miranda-A – 14 [Lion, Agile (B), Bon Vivant, Svai, Dryad (B), T'Kumbra, Shield, Intrepid, Eketha, Eclipse, Firefly, Calypso, Dynamo, Clarion]
Centaur-A – 4 [Lightning, Typhoon, Cloudburst, Gale (B)]
Centaur-B – 7 [Bull (B), Whale, Fluffy-Puffy, Sommerfield, Aurora, Yuudachi, Summerstorm]
Constellation-A – 8 [Kearsage (B), Triada, Challorn (B), Vigour (B), Selaya (B), Stalwart (B), Docana (B), Gerzzi]
Constitution-B – 6 (Exeter, Defiant, Valiant (B), Hood (B), Lexington, Saratoga, Korolev)
Renaissance – 13 [Torch, Justice, Emancipation, Suffrage, Enlightenment, Epiphany, Reason, Insight, Kir'shara, Incorruptible, Reformation, Concord, Enkindle, Zh'Mai]
Constitution-A 1 - [Cheron (V)]
Excelsior – None.
Excelsior-A – 11 (Salnas (B), Discovery, Sojourner, Frontier, Lakota, Zarayet, Endurance (B), Spirit, Thirishar (B), Excalibur, Avandar (B), Pathfinder (B))
In Refit- 2 Excelsiors (Rru'adorr (B), Pleezirra (B)), 2 Centaur-A (Yukikaze (B), Zephyr (B)), Torch (phaser array refit)
In Repair – None.
2322.Q2 changes: 3 Centaur-B [Winterwind, Chinook, Sirocco] complete refit. 1 Centaur-A [Gale (B)] goes into refit. 1 Kepler [Kepler] completes, 1 Renaissance [Ana Font Berth 1] completes. 1 Renaissance [Torch (pa)] completes phaser array refit
Net changes: +3 Centaur-B, -1 Centaur-A, +1 Kepler, +2 Renaissance
*(B) = Blooded, (V) = Veteran, (i) = isolinear, (pa) = phaser array
The following distribution, largely worked out by SWB and modified by me, covers sectors pretty well in my opinion. There are still a few two-ship sectors, but those few have two decent ships... not depending on Mirandas as second responders.
Sol Sector – Requires D18 (Supported by LBZ and SBZ)
- Homeworlds/Major Worlds in sector: 10 = 3 homeworlds (Earth, Betazed, Gaen), 7 other major worlds)
- 2322.Q1 – Excelsior-A (6) [Spirit], 1 Constellation (4) [Gerzzi], Centaur-A (3) [Lightning (i)], 2 Starbase I (14) [Earth, Betazed] = 27D
- Homeworlds/Major Worlds in sector: 5 = 1 homeworld (Vulcan), 4 other major worlds
- 2322.Q1 – 1 Constitution-B (5) (Korolev), 1 Centaur-B (5) [Sommerfield], 1 Miranda-A (2) [Clarion], Starbase I (7) = 15D
- Homeworlds/Major Worlds in sector: 5 = 1 homeworld (Andoria), 4 other major worlds
- 2322.Q1 - 1 Constellation-A (4) [Challorn (B)], Centaur-B (5) [Yuudachi], Starbase I (7) = 16D
- Homeworlds/Major Worlds in sector: 4 = 1 homeworld (Tellar Prime), 3 other major worlds
- 2321.Q1 – Constellation-A (4) [Kearsage (B)], 1 Centaur-B (5) [Whale], 1 Miranda-A (2) [Intrepid], [Starbase I (7), Extra Outposts (5) = 23D
- Homeworlds/Major Worlds in sector: 4 = 1 homeworld (Amarkia), 3 other major worlds
- 2322.Q1 - 1 Constitution-B (5) [Saratoga], 1 Centaur-B (5) [Summerstorm], Starbase I (7), Extra Outposts (5) = 22D
- Homeworlds/Major Worlds in sector: 5 = 2 homeworld (Ferasa, Risa), 3 other major worlds)
- 2321.Q1 - 1 Constitution-B (5) [Defiant], 1 Constellation-A (4) [Triada], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Cloudburst], Starbase I (7) = 19D
- Homeworlds/Major Worlds in sector: 4 = 1 homeworlds (Rigel), 3 other major worlds
- 2322.Q1 - 1 Renaissance (5) [Reformation], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Typhoon], Starbase I (7) = 15D
- Homeworlds/Major Worlds in sector: 6 = 2 homeworlds (Apinae, Indoria), 4 other major worlds
- 2322.Q1 - 1 Constitution-B (5) [Exeter], 1 Constellation-A [Stalwart (B)], 1 Miranda-A (2) [Eclipse], 2 Starbase I (14) [Grand Hive of Apinae, Indorian Starbase], Extra Outposts [5] = 30D
- Homeworlds/Major Worlds in sector: 5 = 1 homeworld (Alukk), 4 other major worlds
- 2322.Q2 - 1 Constitution-B (5) [Hood (B)], 1 Constellation-A (4) [Docana (B)], 1 Miranda-A (2) [Svai], 1 Starbase (7) [Alukk Station] = 18D
- Homeworlds/Major Worlds in sector: 8 = 4 homeworlds (Rethelia, Fiiral, Arqueniou, Ashidi), 4 other major worlds
- 2321.Q1 – 2 Renaissance (10) [Enkindle, Incorruptible], 1 Centaur-B (5) [Bull (B)], 2 Starbase I (14) [Rethelia Starbase, Arqueniou] = 29D
- Homeworlds/Major Worlds in sector: 1 major world (Solitude)
- 2321.Q1 – 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Sojourner], 2 Renaissance (10) [Reason, Zh'Mai], 1 Miranda-A (2) [Shield], 1 Oberth (1) [Inspire], Starbase I (7) = 26D
- Homeworlds/Major Worlds in sector: 3 = 1 homeworld (Caldonia), 2 other major worlds
- 2321.Q1 - 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Discovery], 2 Renaissance (10) [Epiphany, Kir'shara], 1 Miranda-A (2) [Eketha], 1 Oberth (1) [Hawking (B)], 1 Starbase I (7) [Shrantet] = 26D
- Homeworlds/Major Worlds in sector: None
- 2322.Q1 – 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Thirishar (B)],1 Centaur-B (5) [Fluffy-Puffy], 2 Miranda-A (4) [Lion, T'Kumbra], 1 Starbase I (7) [Lapycorias] = 22D
- 2322.Q1 – 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Thirishar (B)], 1 Renaissance (4) [Torch (pa)], 1 Centaur-B (5) [Fluffy-Puffy], 2 Miranda-A (4) [Lion, T'Kumbra], 1 Starbase I (7) [Lapycorias] = 26D
- Notes: Torch returns from Phaser Array refit in 2321.Q2.
- Homeworlds/Major Worlds in sector: 2 major worlds (Vega, Klivvar Proxima)
- 2322.Q1 - 3 Renaissance (15) [Enlightenment, Suffrage, Concord], Starbase I (7) [Vega] = 22D
- 2322.Q2 - 3 Renaissance (15) [Enlightenment, Suffrage, Concord], 1 Centaur-B (5) [Winterwind], Starbase I (7) [Vega] = 27D
- Notes: Winterwind arrives in Q2.
- Homeworlds/Major Worlds in sector: 4 = 1 homeworld (Paddah), 3 other major worlds
- 2322.Q1 – 1 Renaissance [Emancipation] (5), 1 Constitution-B (5) [Lexington], Miranda-A (2) [Bon Vivant] = 12D
- 2322.Q2 – 1 Renaissance [Emancipation] (5), 1 Constitution-B (5) [Lexington], Miranda-A (2) [Bon Vivant], 1 Starbase I (7) [Kappa] = 19D
- Notes: Starbase completes in Q2.
- Homeworlds/Major Worlds in sector: 9 = 6 homeworlds (Kelowna, Laian, Wumei, Vail, Obar, Okatha), 3 other major worlds
- 2322.Q1 – 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Frontier], 1 Renaissance (5) [Justice], 1 Centaur-B (5) [Aurora] = 16D
- Homeworlds/Major Worlds in sector: 0
- 2322.Q1 – 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Lakota], 1 Renaissance [Insight] (5), 1 Constitution-B (5) [Valiant (B)], 1 Starbase (7) [Gamma Canidae] = D23
- 2322.Q1 - 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Zarayet], 2 Constellation-A (8) [Selaya (B), Vigour (B)], 3 Miranda-A (6) [Firefly, Calypso, Dynamo], 1 Starbase I (7) [Collie] = 27D
So that leaves the following ships free for Task Forces:
- 5 Excelsior-A [Salnas (B), Pathfinder, Endurance (B), Avandar (B), Excalibur]
- 1 Renaissance [Anna Font Berth 1 - in Q2]
- 1 Constitution-A [Cheron]
- 1 Centaur-B [Chinook - in Q2, Sirroco - in Q2]
- 1 Centaur-A [Gale (B) - replace after Q1]
- 1 Kepler [Kepler - in Q2]
- 2 Oberth [T'Mir (V), Torbriel]
- 2 Miranda-A [Agile (B), Dryad (B)
Currently we have 8 points of member world ships, which we can retain for 20 pp. Let's say we do that. I'll pretty much keep the ships we have, though taking the liberty of replacing all member Centaur-As with Centaus-Bs.
Option 1 (using 8 points of member ships)
Member World Ships Retained in MWCD: Retain 8 points of ships and one cargo ship (20 pp)
- Cruisers: 1 Apiata Little Queenship, 1 United Earth Renaissance, 1 Tellarite Renaissance, 1 Rigellian Turtleship
- Frigates: 2 Apiata Stingers,1 Betazoid Centaur-B, 1 Orion Molhane Patrol Escort, 2 Amarkian Anacail, 2 Amarkian Centaur-B
Task Force: Beyond (assume continues to 2322)
-Mission: Counteract Horizon diplomatic efforts in the Horizon Border Zone region. (Name is a play on Beyond the Horizon.)
-Commander: Samhaya Mrr'shan - +1P to Flagship, reroll first failed combat roll each year
-Attachments: Free FDS Diplomatic Team attachment
-Ships: 1 Excelsior-A [Salnas (B)], NEW 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Pathfinder], 1 Constitution-A [Cheron], 1 Apiata Little Queenship, 2 Apiata Stingers, 1 United Earth Renaissance, 1 Orion Molhane Patrol Escort
-NEW In Q2, add 1 Centaur-B [Chinook] from refit and 1 Renaissance [Ana Font Berth 1] as it is completed.
So basically, in this version we add three ships to Beyond: a new Excelsior, a new Centaur-B, and a new Renaissance. This brings us up to 10 ships versus 10 ships, but note that our average P score is still less in many encoutners, as Scientist-class Harmony ships have 6P or more, and Centaur-B and Renaissance only have P4.
Task Force: Handshake (assume continues to 2322)
-Mission: Conduct covert diplomacy with the Dawiar. (Name is from secret handshakes.)
-Min-Jee Lee - +1 P on flagship
-Attachments: Free FDS Diplomatic Team attachment
-Ships: 1 Excelsior-A [Endurance (B)], 1 Oberth (T'Mir (V), 1 Arqueniou Leb Nin (free), 1 Rigellian Turtleship, 1 Betazoid Centaur-B
-NEW In Q2, add 1 Centaur-B [Sirocco] from refit.
Add a Centaur-B here... straightfoward.
Task Force: Shield (assume continues to 2322)
-Mission: Dissuade Hishmeri raiding.
-T'Mina - Reroll the first failed intercept each quarter.
-Attachments: None
-Ships: NEW 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Avandar (B)] (replaces Renaissance), 1 Tellarite Renaissance, NEW 2 Amarkian Centaur-B (switched out from Amarkian Centaur-A), 2 Amarkian Anacail
Not adding more ships, but swapped out the former Renaissance flagship for a blooded Excelsior i took from the Licori Border Zone. In addition, the Amarkian Centaur-As have been switched for Amarkian Centaur-Bs. This should result in considerably better performance.
[NEW] Task Force: Adazzi
-Mission [Explore the Adazzi Gulf]
-Straak - +15 BR/SR on the first resource gain of each quarter
-Attachments: Vulcan Science Academy Science Team. Cost: 5pp on Purchase, 5rp per year. Effect: Reroll first failed Science test involving an anomaly per quarter; All Pyllix Geological Institute Team. Cost: Free.
-Ships: 1 Excelsior-A [Excalibur], 2 Miranda-A [Agile (B), Dryad (B)], 1 Centaur-A [Gale (B)], 1 Oberth [Torbriel], 1 Forager
- In 2322.Q2 Gale goes into refit and is replaced by Kepler.
I put our two Blooded Miranda-As on this one, the Excakibut, and a Kepler.
Now let's look at Option 2, calling up an additional 8 points of member ships. Note that we may get a pp discount on this... the TF update noted that more member ships would "shake loose" in response to the successful Hishmeri raid. I will bold the 'new' ships being called up over Option 1.
Option 2 (using 16 points of member ships):
Member World Ships : Retain 8 points of ships for (20 pp) and call up another 8 points of ships (40pp) for 60 pp total
- Explorers: 1 Human Excelsior-A, 1 Andorian Excelsior-A, 1 Amarki Riala-A
- Cruisers: 1 Apiata Little Queenship, 1 United Earth Renaissance, 1 Tellarite Renaissance, 1 Rigellian Turtleship, 1 Orion Nelhiar Savings & Loan Enforcer, 1 Gaeni Tech-Cruiser
- Frigates: 2 Apiata Stingers,1 Betazoid Centaur-B, 1 Orion Molhane Patrol Escort, 2 Amarkian Anacail, 2 Amarkian Centaur-B
-Mission: Counteract Horizon diplomatic efforts in the Horizon Border Zone region. (Name is a play on Beyond the Horizon.)
-Commander: Samhaya Mrr'shan - +1P to Flagship, reroll first failed combat roll each year
-Attachments: Free FDS Diplomatic Team attachment
-Ships: 1 Excelsior-A [Salnas (B)], NEW 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Pathfinder], NEW Human Excelsior-A, NEW 1 Andorian Excelsior-A, 1 Constitution-A [Cheron], 1 Apiata Little Queenship, 2 Apiata Stingers, 1 United Earth Renaissance, NEW 1 Orion Nelhiar Savings & Loan Enforcer, 1 Orion Molhane Patrol Escort
-NEW In Q2, add 1 Centaur-B [Chinook] from refit and 1 Renaissance [Ana Font Berth 1] as it is completed.
So this version of Task Force Beyond adds an additional 2 Excelsior-As as well as a high-P Orion cruiser. We're now matching the Scientist classes with equivalent P or bigger ships, plus I'm pretty sure outdoing this escorts. Now it's 13 ships to their 10.
Task Force: Handshake (assume continues to 2322)
-Mission: Conduct covert diplomacy with the Dawiar. (Name is from secret handshakes.)
-Min-Jee Lee - +1 P on flagship
-Attachments: Free FDS Diplomatic Team attachment
-Ships: 1 Excelsior-A [Endurance (B)], 1 Oberth (T'Mir (V), NEW 1 Centaur-A [Gale (B)], 1 Arqueniou Leb Nin (free), 1 Rigellian Turtleship, NEW 1 Betazoid Centaur-B (switched out from Andorian Centaur-A)
-NEW In 2322.Q2 Gale goes into refit and is replaced by Kepler and 1 Centaur-B [Sirocco] aded from refit.
Sending the Kepler over to Task Force Handshake as the major change here.
Task Force: Shield (assume continues to 2322)
-Mission: Dissuade Hishmeri raiding.
-T'Mina - Reroll the first failed intercept each quarter.
-Attachments: None
-Ships: NEW 1 Amarki Riala, NEW 1 Excelsior-A (6) [Avandar (B)] (replaces Renaissance), 1 Tellarite Renaissance, NEW 2 Amarkian Centaur-B (switched out from Amarkian Centaur-A), 2 Amarkian Anacail
Added an Amarki Riala to the equation over the other version.
[NEW] Task Force: Adazzi
-Mission [Explore the Adazzi Gulf]
-Straak - +15 BR/SR on the first resource gain of each quarter
-Attachments: Vulcan Science Academy Science Team. Cost: 5pp on Purchase, 5rp per year. Effect: Reroll first failed Science test involving an anomaly per quarter; All Pyllix Geological Institute Team. Cost: Free.
-Ships: 1 Excelsior-A [Excalibur], 1 Gaeni Tech-Cruiser, 2 Miranda-A [Agile (B), Dryad (B)], 1 Oberth [Torbriel], 1 Forager
Since we sent the Kepler to Handshake, this one replaces it with a Gaeni Tech-Cruiser.
Thoughts?
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I like Option 2 a lot.
One thing we might want to consider for the base deployment is adding a 4th ship to the HBZ. We've had occasions where all three ships are occupied.
One thing we might want to consider for the base deployment is adding a 4th ship to the HBZ. We've had occasions where all three ships are occupied.
- Location
- California
Fixed that for you.
I took Ana Font Berth 1 out of the HBZ so I could send it to TF Beyond. Should we reverse that and out it back, or try to scrounge a 4th ship from somewhere else?
- Location
- United States
@Briefvoice tf adazzi has an oberth listed. Not the kepler. And i want the kepler with tf handshake. That has a much higher priority/difficulty than exploring the adazzi gulf.
Forgothrax
Not Going Gently
- Pronouns
- He/Him
Almost certain I'd go for Option 2. 40pp hurts but we need to go on the Offensive vs Horizon.
Ana Font Berth 1 seems to be missing in Option 2.
I think the Clarion or the Cloudburst are potentially move-able. Neither is ideal, but if I had to pick one ship it'd be one of those.
I'm not sure we can expect to have the Lightning back immediately. Maybe it would be a better idea to put another ship here (Agile or Dryad perhaps) and let the Lightning go into the theater task force whenever it returns.
I'd rather have either Cheron here, or replace Whale with Bull (our only blooded Centaur-B, IIRC)
Much as I really want to have this mission, given the lackluster performance of last years TF updates, I would rather double down on our existing TFs this year instead of starting a new TF mission. Put Kepler in the Dawiar TF for now, and split the other ships into the three existing TFs.
Agree with this. It seems like our diplo-war with the HoH isn't just being handled by TF Beyond, but also by regular events in the HBZ. Beyond can be supplemented by member ships, but garrison can't. So another ship in the garrison for the HBZ would be a good idea.
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Nervos Belli
Don't think this means you've won!
- Location
- Murica
The septs are highly disunified, which is part of what makes negotiating a truce so difficult. So while there are numerous factions involved in the raiding, there is only one tag to assign a TF to.
- Location
- Germany
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I was thinking the number of ships / combat value would play a role in deterrence. More Hishmeri - more possible raiding events (at least it seems logical to me if you have 200 ships you can send more raiding groups than with 20).
My head knows you're correct; my heart says that it's a damn shame to make the first mission of our glorious science frigate of peaceful exploration to be a dirty espionage mission.
Corrected, thanks.
Maybe the Clarion... a Miranda-A is okay as a fourth responder, I guess.
Eh, I highly expect it back.
I'm amenable to switching it out for the Bull.
While you were sneaking around Dawiar space... the Cardassians were exploring the Adazzi Gulf.
While you were jousting with the Harmony of Horizon over cats and squids... the Cardassians were claiming mines in the Adazzi Gulf.
While you were fighting off the Hishmeri... the Cardassians were building Outposts in the Adazzi Gulf.
Do we really need an Excelsior in the GBZ anymore? We could really use it in the HBZ or one of the Task Forces.
I want to see what the Event table for that place looks like for a year before I leave it without Excelsior support.
Fair enough.
If it's a tradeoff of getting Dawiar space or getting more outposts in the Adazzi Gulf, I'd pick the former. It's a better political win, better area to absorb/defend, and reduces Cardassian influence on our flank.
Adazzi Gulf is in a direction we're defending against anyway, them getting more resources there doesn't make any more difference than them finding more resources on their side of the GBZ or the other side of their territory, say.
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Lot's of unfortunate events - border crossings, tapped communication relays, drunken officers waking up without any memory on our collaboration outpost, 'rogue' raiders/pirates, ...
I would expect Goshawnar exploration forces to oppose us in the Gulf.
Based on the performance last year, it seems to be... We kinda got nowhere with the existing TF. Hence I would like to reinforce it, by a lot, to get somewhere.
My thought is that having one TF that will perform strongly is better than two TFs that provide only mediocre results for both missions.
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Keeping the Badlands out of Cardassian hands and claiming some systems in the Gulf that we can fortify seems worth it. Otherwise the supply line between Apinae and Collie looks like a pretty tempting target for a first strike suprise attack if they ever do decide to attack us.