Dat's not Liberty Prime. That's MechaGornZilla.
From the Gorn point of view, those two things are the same thing.

Antimatter reactions are rather clean. Torpedoes are ALSO dial-a-yield.
It'd be a ground burst, more or less in direct contact, to have much effect against something that could potentially have meter-thick armor made of Trek materials. That, or an airburst with high enough yield that the direct blast effect would wreck the surrounding region pretty well.

That actually does make sense; Kepler is doubtless expected to produce ludicrous quantities of scientific reports and communications chatter as part of routine operations, so having someone onboard capable of handling the workload is a good thing.

Being useful at processing signals intelligence is simply a convenient bonus.
Chatsworth:

"An Oberth would have a small staff of such specialists even in regular fleet service. I was one of them."

2.4 MT is an Excelsior. Even if their tech is bad, they can build to a scale that suggests sufficient resources and infrastructure we need to care about their actions and fate more than we previously have. If nothing else, we don't need another Sydraxi Phony War.
To be fair, they were responding to Atuin, an Explorer Corps Excelsior-A. That could have been the flagship of the entire Ittick-kKa navy and they'd still have sent her to meet us, because the alternative would be to confront us with outclassed, dinky little ships.
 
To be fair, they were responding to Atuin, an Explorer Corps Excelsior-A. That could have been the flagship of the entire Ittick-kKa navy and they'd still have sent her to meet us, because the alternative would be to confront us with outclassed, dinky little ships.
You have to kind of feel bad for them, they very likely believed themselves to be the most powerful nation in their part of the galaxy. And they probably are compared to what neighbors they may possibly have. But then they meet the United Federation of Federations and suddenly realize that really, they aren't.

#Ittick-kaAmbitionsMatterToo
 
To be fair, they were responding to Atuin, an Explorer Corps Excelsior-A. That could have been the flagship of the entire Ittick-kKa navy and they'd still have sent her to meet us, because the alternative would be to confront us with outclassed, dinky little ships.

This...seems a significant misreading of the event text. This ship did not respond. It was already there, serving as the Governor General's palace/mobile oppression fortress.
 
This...seems a significant misreading of the event text. This ship did not respond. It was already there, serving as the Governor General's palace/mobile oppression fortress.

Which also indicates that most Governor-Generals in similiarily lucrative positions have ships of similiar size. And that the central authority has about as many of them as all GGs put together, to make sure noone gets any ideas of seceding.
 
Hm, you're right, then.

On the other hand, if it's a "mobile oppression fortress," it may be more like a starbase with a Warp 5 engine mount glued on, in which case the fact that they built it is somewhat less impressive.
 
Which also indicates that most Governor-Generals in similiarily lucrative positions have ships of similiar size. And that the central authority has about as many of them as all GGs put together, to make sure noone gets any ideas of seceding.

Though that said, I would be surprised if there were more than two or three Governor-Generals in "similarly lucrative positions", including the one we met. The Daw seem like a major prize.
 
Well we don't want to assume that the big ship is actually slow or weak, because that leaves us under estimating them. I do think we can safely model the 'Palace' class as a heavy and high presence design.
That said, they are apparently bulking out their Enlisted with locals.
We observed a number of daw employed as servants and low-level technicians or laborers in the vessel's exterior arboretum or "courtyard," but none once we were invited below deck.
How effectively is a different question entirely, of course, and a vector for intel that we shouldn't neglect going forward.
Also note that it's an exterior arboretum. They have a greenhouse on the outside of the ship. That's a thing, that is.
 
2.4 MT is an Excelsior. Even if their tech is bad, they can build to a scale that suggests sufficient resources and infrastructure we need to care about their actions and fate more than we previously have. If nothing else, we don't need another Sydraxi Phony War.

It means that they're going to have a fleet of incredibly expensive ships with a CSLPD5/H4 statline, I would guess after a quick sketch in the designer. If they're pouring resources into ships that crappy I'm actually pleased. It means they aren't building swarms of Mirandas that are a credible threat.

Given that the Ittick-ka are still a minor race and the relatively small ISC are a major, that puts a cap on how threatening they are likely to be.

Building a ship that big on what is likely the Miranda techbase (T-1 to T0) is an incredible waste of resources. It produces only minor stat gains but for an incredible price.
 
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Building a ship that big on what is likely the Miranda techbase (T-1 to T0) is an incredible waste of resources. It produces only minor stat gains but for an incredible price.

Depends on how you measure things.

Maybe they are expensive enough that they only have a handful and can only build one or two at time.
But if they do their job of completely overwhelming the local inferiors so that the inferiors can grant supplies greater than the cost of the ships in a fraction of their expected service life, then they may well be very cheap indeed ....
 
Yeah, building big ships is practically free extra Presence versus sufficiently unadvanced polities who can't build ships that size without huge waste, though I doubt the QMs actually model it as such.
Seriously, the 'mine is bigger than yours' mindset is something you find with (a lot of) real-life humans, contemporary and historical.
And modeling - could be done by adding / removing tags, for example.
(for example, if we sent the Enterprise to a diplomatic event, I wouldn't wonder if it got a circumstance modifier for rolls)
 
Seriously, the 'mine is bigger than yours' mindset is something you find with (a lot of) real-life humans, contemporary and historical.
And modeling - could be done by adding / removing tags, for example.
(for example, if we sent the Enterprise to a diplomatic event, I wouldn't wonder if it got a circumstance modifier for rolls)

Which is why I want an aprox statline before going nuts over it. they could be compensating, or the extra mass is a consequence of their inefficient systems and we could be seeing at something equivalent to a cruiser.
Yes, it is an engineering asset to have a ship as big, but... that assumes they are moving all sciences at an equal pace and that the are all at an equal level, neither have to be true and they could be prioritizing their tech to go bigger is better, over better weapons, shields, science and what not
 
Another reason you might want a huge ship is the extra storage space. Especially if you're a sneering imperialist who loots the colonies for resources.
 
You also simply might need more space for energy production, life support, luxury quarters ...
 
It's interesting that the Daw don't seem to take their "occupation" too seriously, and the Ittick-ka aren't exercising very tight control either.
 
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