I don't think flagship is an official title anyway, more like an understanding internal to the fleet.

It probably is an official title, much like Pennsylvania was the sometime flagship of the US fleet in the '20s. It also probably designates a role that is more ceremonial than factual, since Starfleet will never be commanded from an underway position, but if it was, this is the ship from which it would be.
 
[ ][PRIORITY] Pick One Member World Priority to change

We really need an option in the snakepit to expand the MWCO so we can make multiple changes per year.



[X][AMARKIA] Go for a fifth Riala-A battlecruiser
[X][RISA] Recommend the Centaur-B (-10pp)
Adhoc vote count started by TyrialFrost on Oct 20, 2017 at 10:30 PM, finished with 89 posts and 36 votes.
 
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I would prefer new blood on the Enterprise C personally.

Just like Nash wasn't part of Kirks enterprise and none from that crew was part of hers I'd like a brand new crew that can make its own legacy.
 
Militating against that... certain characters in this story are our babies, and others... aren't. There's a lot to be said for using the ones that are, on a ship likely to be the focus of attention.
 
As appropriate as it is for Enterprise to have the prototype extra-killy phasers, I'm worried about how doing it this way looks politically. Not only does it mean breaking up the historic dual launch of the new Ambassador-class ships, but think about that silly discussion about how the Enterprise is the "flagship" of the Federation. Outside of combat, the Enterprise is in many ways literally the face of the UFP. The Explorer Corps, the Lone Ranger doctrine, the many Five-Year Missions, these are all ways of (successfully!) replicating and extending the legendary successes of that one ship. The dual launch of the new Ambassadors, (if you follow my train of thought here,) is about as Starfleet a thing to do as Starfleet does: Our new Heavy Explorer class, and there's two of them!

The point I'm leading to here is, breaking that up to install extra-killy phasers is an extremely Hawkish move. And I don't mean in a "the Pacifists won't like this" way, I mean that everyone who's not a hardcore Hawk won't like it. If it wasn't delaying the launch, it wouldn't be such a big deal. If you could launch Enterprise, and then do this refit later without loosing the research bonus, you'd probably get away with it politically without ruffling many feathers. But doing it this way directly says "combat power is more important than everything else about this ship". Combat is only one part of an Explorer's mission.

Lastly, part of the reason to do this is to potentially have Leaniss as captain of the Enterprise. If she was our best choice, it might be worth doing the refit just for that. But she isn't. Not only has Captain Zhang been held back from Explorer Corps assignments multiple times despite having a top tier captains bonus, but her diplomacy ability is the best that has ever shown up in the quest. +1 P and reroll any failed Diplomacy roll. Not First Contact events (Captain T'Lorel), not non-First Contact Diplomacy (Captain Langa Mbeki), and not diplomacy tests inside Federation space (Captain Demora Sulu). If you can call it Diplomacy, Captain Zhang always get to roll twice. (And has a +1). Lastly, she has +1 H. Hull may not seem like much of a good bonus, but it is the stat that governs "not dying", and as such I see it as a valuable skill, if not one that will come into play often.

Yeah, I only really talked about stats, but mechanical bonuses matter much way more for our Explorer Corps captains than in any other personnel positions. And I'd have to write another paragraph to talk about narrative reasons. >_>
 
So let's talk about manning the Themis Border Zone. It's going to require D7 Here is my "minimum change" proposal that involves four sectors. Hopefully short enough not to be tl'dr.

Ferasa Sector – Requires D10 (supported by KBZ)
  • Homeworlds/Major Worlds in sector: 5 = 2 homeworlds (Ferasa, Risa), 3 other major worlds)
  • As of 2320.Q1 – 1 Constitution-B (5) [Defiant], Starbase I (7) = 12D
  • Notes: In 2320.Q1 Pleezirra send to Themis Border Zone.
Ferasa had formerly had both an Excelsior and a Constitution-B. But with Rethelia sector on its own, Ferasa basically just covers the Caitians and the Risans. At a much more manageable size, I think we can let it be a one ship sector supported by two border zones (Themis and KBZ).

Romulan Border Zone – Requires D15 (Supports Vulcan and Andoria sectors)
  • Homeworlds/Major Worlds in sector: 1 major world (Solitude)
  • As of 2320.Q1 - 2 Centaur-A (6) [Cloudburst, Typhoon], 1 Miranda-A (2) [Lion], 1 Oberth (1) [Inspire], Starbase I (7) = 16D
  • 2320.Q2- 1 Constellation-A (4) [Stalwart], 1 Centaur-A (3) [Typhoon], 1 Oberth (1) [Inspire], Starbase I (7) = 15D
  • In 2320.Q2 the Stalwart arrives from refit, the Lion is sent to Themis Border Zone, and the Cloudburst to the SBZ.
So in 2320.Q2, the Stalwart comes out of refit and goes to the RBZ. This frees up a couple of ship. According to our original plan, the Lion was to go to Rethelia Sector, but we send it to Themis instead. But that's Q2... what do do about Q1?

Klingon Border Zone – Requires D13 (Supports Andor and Ferasa Sectors)
  • Homeworlds/Major Worlds in sector: 3 = 1 homeworld (Caldonia), 2 other major worlds
  • As of 2320.Q1 - 1 Constellation-A (4) [Selaya], 1 Miranda-A (2) [Svai], 1 Starbase I (7) [Shrantet] = 13D
  • 2320.Q2 - 1 Constellation-A (4) [Selaya], 1 Miranda-A (2) [Svai], 1 Oberth (1) [Hawking], 1 Starbase I (7) [Shrantet] = 14D
  • Notes: In 2320.Q1 the Hawking goes to Themis border zone. In 2320.Q2 Hawking returns.
The KBZ loans out the Hawking for a single quarter.

Themis Border Zone – Requires D7 (Supports Apinae, Alukk, Rethelia, Ferasa sectors)
  • Homeworlds/Major Worlds in sector: 0
  • As of 2320.Q1 - 1 Excelsior (6) [Pleezirra], 1 Oberth (1) [Hawking] = D7
  • 2320.Q2 - 1 Excelsior (6) [Pleezirra], 1 Miranda-A (2) [Lion] = D8
  • Notes: In 2320.Q1, Pleezirra arrives from Ferasa sector and Hawking from KBZ. In 2320.Q2 the Lion arrives from the RBZ and the Hawking goes back to the KBZ.
And finally we have the Themis border zone, basically manned by an Excelsior/Miranda pair. Good enough for customs patrol duty, I think.

Work for everyone?
 
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Can you find another ship for Themis? It's got 4 support links, one high-end responder is risking missing a local event because a mutual support event got it first, and very likely to miss out on mutual support chances because it already responded, leaving something less capable to respond.
 
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Can you find another ship for Themis? It's got 4 support links, one high-end responder is risking missing a local event because a mutual support event got it first, and very likely to miss out on mutual support chances because it already responded, leaving something less capable to respond.

Sure! Here are your other options:
Pull ships off the Eternal Empire task forces.
Pull ships out of the Gabriel Border Zone.
Pull the Lightning out of Sol, if you want our most important sector (with 10 major worlds) to depend on a single Excelsior.
Pull a ship our of the Sydraxian Border Zone's (two Renaissances and one Centaur-B available). But isn't it also an important border zone?
Pull a ship out of the Horizon Border Zone (the Cheron, a Consitution-B, or a Constellation-A available).

But all of those are also important. So you tell me where you want to steal some ships from.
 
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Sure! Here are your other options:
Pull ships off the Eternal Empire task forces.
Pull ships out of the Gabriel Border Zone.
Pull the Lightning out of Sol, if you want our most important sector (with 10 major worlds) to depend on a single Excelsior.
Pull a ship our of the Sydraxian Border Zone's (two Renaissances and one Centaur-B available). But isn't it also an important border zone?
Pull a ship out of the Horizon Border Zone (the Cheron, a Consitution-B, or a Constellation-A available).

But all of those are also important. So you tell me where you want to steal some ships from.
No lie, this quest has done a consistent job of portraying just why the Enterprise was the only ship available to respond for lightyears around in canon and has done so really well even over 20 years ingame time and rapid buildup.
 
We'll hopefully be able to devote one of our new Excelsiors when they come off the line, but until then...
 
Sure! Here are your other options:
Pull ships off the Eternal Empire task forces.
Pull ships out of the Gabriel Border Zone.
Pull the Lightning out of Sol, if you want our most important sector (with 10 major worlds) to depend on a single Excelsior.
Pull a ship our of the Sydraxian Border Zone's (two Renaissances and one Centaur-B available). But isn't it also an important border zone?
Pull a ship out of the Horizon Border Zone (the Cheron, a Consitution-B, or a Constellation-A available).

But all of those are also important. So you tell me where you want to steal some ships from.
ICK.

The only option that looks vaguely viable is pulling a ship from the GBZ, but pulling Avandar is right out, the Mirandas won't help the problem, and we need skirmishers. Possibly redirect a Rennie?

We've got a bunch of Excelsior-As coming out soon, though. Send one to the GBZ and shift Avandar to the HBZ or SBZ (because it's closer to dinging), send one to Themis, send one to whichever of the SBZ/HBZ didn't get Avandar, send the last to anti-EE work if that's still going.
 
We've got a bunch of Excelsior-As coming out soon, though. Send one to the GBZ and shift Avandar to the HBZ or SBZ (because it's closer to dinging), send one to Themis, send one to whichever of the SBZ/HBZ didn't get Avandar, send the last to anti-EE work if that's still going.

I anticipate that one of those 4 Excelsior-As is going to have to replace another Excelsior going into refit, so you really only have 3 to play with....

...and "soon" is 3 quarters to one year away.
 
We'll hopefully be able to devote one of our new Excelsiors when they come off the line, but until then...
We've got a bunch of Excelsior-As coming out soon, though. Send one to the GBZ and shift Avandar to the HBZ or SBZ (because it's closer to dinging), send one to Themis, send one to whichever of the SBZ/HBZ didn't get Avandar, send the last to anti-EE work if that's still going.
I anticipate that one of those 4 Excelsior-As is going to have to replace another Excelsior going into refit, so you really only have 3 to play with....

...and "soon" is 3 quarters to one year away.

Aren't they done? We went through the trouble of naming them.
 
ICK.

The only option that looks vaguely viable is pulling a ship from the GBZ, but pulling Avandar is right out, the Mirandas won't help the problem, and we need skirmishers. Possibly redirect a Rennie?
To be fair, a Miranda just might help. They DO pass the great majority of event checks they encounter, you know. :p

Aren't they done? We went through the trouble of naming them.
We name ships when they crew, not necessarily when they commission.
 
[X][PRIORITY] Seyek - identify and fortify blocking systems between Rethelia and the Bajoran/Cardassian border
[X][RISA] Assist in a refit program (+1S, P, D) (-15rp)
[X][AMARKIA] Focus on more next-gen frigates
[X][CORE] USS Lightning
 
[X][PRIORITY] Seyek - identify and fortify blocking systems between Rethelia and the Bajoran/Cardassian border
[X][RISA] Assist in a refit program (+1S, P, D) (-15rp)
[X][AMARKIA] Focus on more next-gen frigates
[X][CORE] USS Lightning

Is the Sydraxian Border Zone still a problem? I got the impression things are improving that we can at least move one ship.
Can Obsidian Order cause trouble with all their assets wiped out?
 
Can you find another ship for Themis? It's got 4 support links, one high-end responder is risking missing a local event because a mutual support event got it first, and very likely to miss out on mutual support chances because it already responded, leaving something less capable to respond.
We don't have any ships.

Most of our sectors are one-ship sectors right now! It's a bit of a disaster thanks to Hayant and the GBZ. We've already drawn down the GBZ, and our options are to make Sol a one-ship (bad), make Ferasa a one-ship (okay?), or make the SBZ a one-ship (bad). And that's just to get the first ship for Themis, nevermind the second or third.

preview: Briefvoice explained it more succinctly


Anyway, I do agree that Ferasa has been heavily downgraded with the Seyek and Qloathi leaving, so that plan looks fine.
 
Hmm.

I've been working on something in the same general spirit as Chapter N of Dreams. More of that "I don't know if this is good or just weird" stuff, but it's close enough to be nearly finished, and to pound on my head demanding to be posted.

Let's wind back the clock to, oh, fifteen years before game start, rather than twenty years after...

This didn't happen. Unless you believe it did, of course.
 
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Omake - Dreams Chapter Null Pt 1 - Simon_Jester
DREAMS
CHAPTER NULL
Part One

IKS Katai
Orbit of the Genesis Planet
Late 2285


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Torg, of the house of K'Tal, stood proudly as Captain Kruge inspected them. Any reservations he had about his captain's character, he would hold his tongue about now with a certain grim satisfaction. He cared not for some of Kruge's actions, but service to the man who had bested the captain of the Enterprise was its own reward.

Nodding brusquely, the squad of naval infantry meeting his approval, the Klingon warlord gave his command. "To the Transport Room! Qa'pla!"

They beamed over, they appeared- in a Federation transporter room, disruptor rifles at the ready, looking around for tricks. Inexplicably weak though their enemy's ship might be, this was the Enterprise... and their enemy was Kirk.

Torg signaled the squad forward with a word and a gesture. Fully briefed, they strode to the bridge, their disruptors at the ready- alert for treachery. They darted glances at the soothingly red-lit corridors- but there was no sign of Starfleet. Fully briefed, Torg led his men to the bridge. They fanned out. Smoke drifted in the air as he raised his communicator.

"My lord, the ship appears to be deserted."

"How can this be? They're hiding!"

"Yes, sir, but the bridge appears to be run by computer. It is the only thing speaking."

"Speaking? Let me hear!"

Torg obeyed, moving the communicator to a bridge station's speakers. "Nine... Eight... Seven.. Six..." the voice sounded almost sultry, welcoming, even. That had to be his imagination.

He had time to hear his captain scream "GET OUT! GET OUT OF THERE! GET OUT!" Then came the light. Swift as thought, the faces of his son and wife flashed before his eyes-

The Enterprise's bridge self-destruct erased from the sidereal universe all that made up Torg, of the House of K'tal.



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No Place
No Time


Cries of alarm, dismay. Torg and his warriors abruptly regained consciousness under a dreadful sky of racing clouds and barren moor, overlooking a crimson river he could smell as well as see.

"This is not the warrior's paradise." Targek's voice sounded hollow, despairing. Dead even by the standards of the slain. "We have died the death of fools!" His friend's rekindled anger and frustration let itself out in a roar to the malevolent skies. Two of his men joined Targek in the scream, two sank to their knees. Torg simply stood, looking around with dazed eyes.

And so he was first to see the woman unsteadily round a great boulder, coming towards them.

"Where are we?" The human had already come close to the knot of Klingons, though she stumbled, disoriented. She was dressed in the old Starfleet uniform, with its short gold skirt. Her appearance was alien, and the smooth brow was the least of it.

Her skin was almost snow-pale, with hair the color of straw and wide eyes with dark, dark coloration. He'd thought Earthlings all had colored irises, like most other Klingonoids did. But the woman's were great round echoing pits of blackness, seeming to have no irises at all. Her gaze focused on his face, and he looked away from those eyes.

Strange, but unimportant. He answered her question. "I know why we are here, Starfleet. We are dead, and this is Hell. But what is an Earthling, ignorant of the rites and the hereafter, doing here?"

"Hmm... Ah." The woman in yellow seemed to snap into focus. Her smile had a grim, wicked tilt to it, as she regained her composure. Her Klingon, at first slurred, took on a strangely accent-less perfection. "How else? I died with you. I was expecting Fiddler's Green; I must have gotten pulled off course."

She seemed to take the revelation that she was among the dead very casually. His eyes narrowed. There was something eerie about her. As though she was more at home in this otherworld than to reality.

He frowned. Death had dulled his awareness of his duties and his loyalty to Kluge, but not erased them. "The bridge of the Enterprise was deserted. We saw no sign of anyone aboard. Were you one of Kirk's?"

Torg knew little about the signs of middle age in humans. But this one had at least as much of the old, stern matron-commander in her as she had the dancing fury of the warrior-maid. Quite a lot of both, in truth. Even so, years fell from her face now. She smiled proudly, at that question.

"Always. From the first to the last."

"Then you are of Earth, and do not belong here. You shall have to make your own way; I have the concerns of my men." Torg shook his head. How could a human be here?

In reply, the woman in yellow smirked and stood straighter, prouder. The expression that somehow Klingonized her smooth, alien face. For the briefest fraction of a heartbeat, Torg thought he saw a tiny spark of electric blue in the night-black of her eye. Her expression was- well and truly foreign to him.

"I am very much of Earth. But here we stand. You were with me at the end, and I've brought you this far. For better or for worse, I am your companion on this journey. And you shades of fallen warriors are mine- mine to travel with, to whatever end awaits us." She grinned eerily, folding her arms.

Perhaps it was the shock of having so abruptly learned all their myths were true. Perhaps it was the smothering spiritual oppression of this great anteroom to Hell. Perhaps it was the echo of her voice, returning to them from the rocks. But none of the six Klingons felt the urge to argue, or to question, those words.



She accompanied him to the edge of the plateau on which they had appeared, there to survey the land. A winding road led across the lowlands, full of uncountable trudging figures, bound for a dock on the edge of the red river.

The vessel moored there appeared no larger than a sporting field. And yet somehow he sensed that entire worlds and races could find room aboard the dark ferry. And that even packing that hull in numbers beyond counting, they would vanish without a trace in its dreadful enormity. His soul knew it for the Barge of the Dead, and he wondered.

All tales claimed that the dishonored dead appeared along the Path of Compulsion and were forced to cross over. Even now Torg could feel the pull from the sight of the Barge. Fate whispered to him, beckoning his soul on its final journey to damnation and ruin.

The strange Earthling padded up beside him and looked down. Torg could tell the exact moment when her eyes fixed on the Barge. She doubled over at the sight, making a terrible retching sound, only slowly staggering upright. The Klingon expected the woman in yellow to avert her eyes, after that. But she stared forward defiantly, speaking with a hammered-iron voice. "No. No. Absolutely not. We are not going anywhere near her."

Sadly he turned to the nameless woman, shaking his head. How could she be made to understand the inevitability of fate for the dishonored? The power that bound him?

"This is the great bend in the river of blood, ending in the Falls of Madness. We can linger here, but not remain- and there is no way that does not lead to the river, nor any crossing save the Barge of the Dead."

"The river leads through the foothills, to better places. I can sense that much. Let's make our way overland, to a place beyond the falls."

"I've never heard of the dead making a vessel of their own, and sailing the river of blood." He felt a shiver of blasphemy, before his spirit rallied. Perhaps... perhaps? And yet- "I do not think the thing can be done."

"Leave that to me." Again the fey smile, again that hint of a spark. A wave of strangeness rolled away from the woman, and touched him. Torg felt an alien sensation, like a hint of song just below the threshold of hearing. It crept across his skin. It whispered of the terrors of the night. Parts of it hated him. All this he knew.

But for all that, he felt unutterable relief. For all that the odd power she carried might war with his Klingon spirit, it warred harder still against the call of the Barge.
 
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