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[X][NASH] Instruct Nash to hold tight and prepare for an offensive starting at the end of Q2 (Reinforcements from anywhere many be provided, allows both sides an extra turn to prepare)
-[X] Reinforce as follows: Lightning (Centaur-A) from Sol Sector, Husacar (Constitution-B) from Andor Sector, Endurance (Excelsior-A) and Bull (Blooded Centaur-A) from Ferasa Sector, Avandar (Excelsior) from Rigel Sector, Yukikaze (Blooded Centaur-A) from Apinae Sector, Inspire (Oberth) and Calypso (Miranda-A) from RBZ, Thirishar (Blooded Excelsior) and Dynamo (Miranda-A) from KBZ, Spirit (Excelsior-A) and Reason (Renaissance) from CBZ, Zephyr (Blooded Centaur-A) and Gale (Blooded Centaur-A) from SBZ, and Svai (Miranda-A) from LBZ = Total Reinforcements of 2 Excelsior-A, 2 Excelsior (1 Blooded), 1 Constitution-B, 1 Renaissance, 5 Centaur-A (4 Blooded), 3 Miranda-A, and 1 Oberth

Okay, sure. I can justify it my mind to take the extra quarter so we can gather a fleet capable of showing the Konen how very, very, very unhappy we are.

Total Reinforcements:
2 Excelsior-A
2 Excelsior (1 Blooded)
1 Constitution-B
1 Renaissance
5 Centaur-A (4 Blooded)
3 Miranda-A
1 Oberth

ought to just about do that.
 
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[X][NASH] Instruct Nash digs in and fortifies (30pp to deliver Starbase, minefield, weapon platform, tachyon net construction materials, 10% and 5% chance of ignoring or insubordination)
--[x][LINDERLY] Start full sweep of our Gabriel assets, starting with the Republic's last resupply. Find how and where those demo charges got on board.
 
[X][NASH] Instruct Nash to hold tight and prepare for an offensive starting at the end of Q2(Reinforcements from anywhere many be provided, allows bothsides an extra turn to prepare)

I want to find out where they took our prisoners, then launch a rescue.
 
Briefvoice said:
(Taps fingers.)

[X][NASH] Instruct Nash to hold tight and prepare for an offensive starting at the end of Q2 (Reinforcements from anywhere many be provided, allows both sides an extra turn to prepare)
-[X] Reinforce as follows: Lightning (Centaur-A) from Sol Sector, Husacar (Constitution-B) from Andor Sector, Endurance (Excelsior-A) and Bull (Blooded Centaur-A) from Ferasa Sector, Avandar (Excelsior) from Rigel Sector, Yukikaze (Blooded Centaur-A) from Apinae Sector, Inspire (Oberth) and Calypso (Miranda-A) from RBZ, Thirishar (Blooded Excelsior) and Dynamo (Miranda-A) from KBZ, Spirit (Excelsior-A) and Reason (Renaissance) from CBZ, Zephyr (Blooded Centaur-A) and Gale (Blooded Centaur-A) from SBZ, and Svai (Miranda-A) from LBZ = Total Reinforcements of 2 Excelsior-A, 2 Excelsior (1 Blooded), 1 Constitution-B, 1 Renaissance, 5 Centaur-A (4 Blooded), and 2 Miranda-A

Okay, sure. I can justify it my mind to take the extra quarter so we can gather a fleet capable of showing the Konen how very, very, very unhappy we are.

Total Reinforcements:
2 Excelsior-A
2 Excelsior (1 Blooded)
1 Constitution-B
1 Renaissance
5 Centaur-A (4 Blooded)
2 Miranda-A

ought to just about do that.
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You forgot to add an Oberth to the total. So that's.... 63C? Lol, yeah k, I can live with that.

EDIT: Alot of people voted for you by name though, so their vote is now automatically changed as well. Would you mind pinging them to make sure they all know this?
 
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Briefvoice said:
I also forgot one of the Miranda-A. Taking Blooded status on ships into account, that's 66C.

When the Cardassians or their Konen lackies let us alone, we play nice. When they hit us, we play very, very rough.
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Don't know if you saw my edit, but would you mind making sure that everyone who voted for you previously is okay with your new plan?
 
[X] Briefvoice

N'Gir has to go.

I'm ALMOST tempted to retain the high-risk option just to vote for sporking her because we know that she's the they who considers not treating her political success as a vital strategic interest a firing offense.

Iron Wolf can talk all he wants about how this is anti-democracy, but N'Gir expects us to subordinate the interests of the Federation to HER interests and that makes her unfit for office.
 
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[X] Briefvoice

Iron Wolf said:
Word from the GM in the discord. I mentioned it a while back.

It's a 40% we get fired but the op goes through because Nash is in the middle of it before the Prez finds out.
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If we assume this is accurate, no slight meant against you personally Iron Wolf but "the GM told me on discord" isn't really an acceptable citation, then it says that N'Gir is incredibly incompetent.

It would take at least a week, quite possibly two, for the reinforcements to get to the GBZ staging ground and another week or so from there to actually hitting the Cardasisan targets. So your saying N'Gir wouldn't notice the CBZ, SBZ, Amarkia, Apinae, Orion garrisons being stripped to skeleton levels for weeks?

That implies a frightening disconnect between the President and Starfleet. If it was just say the Sarek or Couragous it would be understandable but we're talking half a dozen ships and over two thousand personnel disappearing for weeks without her noticing.
 
See, this is why we should copy-paste votes instead of proxying them. People change their minds.

[X][NASH] Authorise an offensive and write-in reinforcements (40% chance President summarily fires you for authorising a major attack on the eve of the elections, 40% lesser consequences, 20% no care)
-[X] Send Salnas and Reason from CBZ, Gale and Zephyr from SBZ, Yukikaze from Apinae
 
Alastor Mobius Toth said:
My issue with dragging out the wait is that it gives Cardassians even more time to prepare. Sure, we will be able to bring in more reinforcements....but so will they.

Initiative often is everything. We're already at disadvantage here, and I'm not convinced that waiting won't make it even worse as Cardassians either press on or grab a few extra percents for their tactical efforts through interrogation.
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Thing is that we need more info on how the Republic was laid low, since this could point at an Obsidian order inflitration within our Gabriel Expanse forces. Jumping half cocked here could mean leaving a number of our gabriel interest open for raiding while our forces concentrate elswhere. The Cardies could sell it to their people as a mutual hit, how will we sell that at home?


Briefvoice said:
(Taps fingers.)

[X][NASH] Instruct Nash to hold tight and prepare for an offensive starting at the end of Q2 (Reinforcements from anywhere many be provided, allows both sides an extra turn to prepare)
-[X] Reinforce as follows: Lightning (Centaur-A) from Sol Sector, Husacar (Constitution-B) from Andor Sector, Endurance (Excelsior-A) and Bull (Blooded Centaur-A) from Ferasa Sector, Avandar (Excelsior) from Rigel Sector, Yukikaze (Blooded Centaur-A) from Apinae Sector, Inspire (Oberth) and Calypso (Miranda-A) from RBZ, Thirishar (Blooded Excelsior) and Dynamo (Miranda-A) from KBZ, Spirit (Excelsior-A) and Reason (Renaissance) from CBZ, Zephyr (Blooded Centaur-A) and Gale (Blooded Centaur-A) from SBZ, and Svai (Miranda-A) from LBZ = Total Reinforcements of 2 Excelsior-A, 2 Excelsior (1 Blooded), 1 Constitution-B, 1 Renaissance, 5 Centaur-A (4 Blooded), 3 Miranda-A, and 1 Oberth

Okay, sure. I can justify it my mind to take the extra quarter so we can gather a fleet capable of showing the Konen how very, very, very unhappy we are.

Total Reinforcements:
2 Excelsior-A
2 Excelsior (1 Blooded)
1 Constitution-B
1 Renaissance
5 Centaur-A (4 Blooded)
3 Miranda-A
1 Oberth

ought to just about do that.
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This tempts me, it is less half cocked and should give Linderly time to do some investigation, but... I think offensive at this time is the wrong course of action. at least not without having a rough idea how compromised we are.
 
pheonix89 said:
Iron Wolf can talk all he wants about how this is anti-democracy, but N'Gir expects us to subordinate the interests of the Federation to HER interests and that makes her unfit for office.
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I think part of this is I don't read this as N'Gir entirely doing it for her own personal political benefit. It's highly likely it's a strong council norm that the government doesn't do anything drastic right before an election because that allows a government vast power to set tone, tenor, and pace of an election, to the disadvantage of all parties. It happens IRL too.

UberJJK said:
If we assume this is accurate, no slight meant against you personally Iron Wolf but "the GM told me on discord" isn't really an acceptable citation, then it says that N'Gir is incredibly incompetent.
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It was the general chat, other people saw it, I didn't produce screencaps because it's way up there lol.


It would take at least a week, quite possibly two, for the reinforcements to get to the GBZ staging ground and another week or so from there to actually hitting the Cardasisan targets. So your saying N'Gir wouldn't notice the CBZ, SBZ, Amarkia, Apinae, Orion garrisons being stripped to skeleton levels for weeks?

That implies a frightening disconnect between the President and Starfleet. If it was just say the Sarek or Couragous it would be understandable but we're talking half a dozen ships and over two thousand personnel disappearing for weeks without her noticing.
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Lol, yes. Why would you turn that on the President and make her look to be incompetent?

Who reports ship movements to her? C-in-C Starfleet. It's why she'd be so pissed -- you'd be flat up lying to her and having cronies cover up your tracks for weeks.
 
Chaos Blade said:
This tempts me, it is less half cocked and should give Linderly time to do some investigation, but... I think offensive at this time is the wrong course of action. at least not without having a rough idea how compromised we are.
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Such an investigation would take time, and we can reasonably expect that Linderly is both as aware of we as to what the incident investigators found and currently having the various Starfleet Intelligence Offices working on the matter.
 
I think the important question here is "do we normally need council or presidential approval before launching this kind of operation?"

If not, there's no reason we should be expected to ask for it this time. If yes, then we should be rightly canned if we try to change that.
 
Hazard said:
Such an investigation would take time, and we can reasonably expect that Linderly is both as aware of we as to what the incident investigators found and currently having the various Starfleet Intelligence Offices working on the matter.
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HE probably is, but launching an offensive before we know more of this event? is folly.
We wait for his report on the Republic's Wreck, see if there is more need to worry about obsidian order moles, and go from there.

Right now we are at risk of telegraphing our moves to the cardies, if we attack now, and this is correct, then they will know we are coming and where. and probably be able to do some raiding and what not.
The offensive's risk will be incredibly higher if they do have moles within our Gabriel forces, and I think it outstreches its potential benefits.

if Linderly decides the explosives were on the outside and Republic fell to some sort of boobytrap? then, by all means, let's go a viking on the spoon heads.

I'd rather have his voice speak about this before committing to a high risk operation, afterwards... it will be too late
 
Have we looked into pulling EC ships for an assault at all? Based on the events of last quarter, Voshov and Tarrak are in Sydraxian space, Atuin is in the Straits of Themis, and S'harien is in Seyek space. Sarek was on Laian and Courageous was by the Tauni so they are definitely out of range for an immediate assault, but the other four could possibly be added to the attack. That's four Excelsiors, three of which are blooded.
 
UbeOne said:
But copy-pasting votes do not take into account improvements to the supported vote.
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Sure, but sometimes a voter disagrees on if a change is an improvement.

Hm... on the other hand, if I didn't know that the President was opposed to the first version, I would consider the second version a better idea.

[X][NASH] Instruct Nash to hold tight and prepare for an offensive starting at the end of Q2 (Reinforcements from anywhere many be provided, allows both sides an extra turn to prepare)
-[X] Reinforce as follows: Lightning (Centaur-A) from Sol Sector, Husacar (Constitution-B) from Andor Sector, Endurance (Excelsior-A) and Bull (Blooded Centaur-A) from Ferasa Sector, Avandar (Excelsior) from Rigel Sector, Yukikaze (Blooded Centaur-A) from Apinae Sector, Inspire (Oberth) and Calypso (Miranda-A) from RBZ, Thirishar (Blooded Excelsior) and Dynamo (Miranda-A) from KBZ, Spirit (Excelsior-A) and Reason (Renaissance) from CBZ, Zephyr (Blooded Centaur-A) and Gale (Blooded Centaur-A) from SBZ, and Svai (Miranda-A) from LBZ = Total Reinforcements of 2 Excelsior-A, 2 Excelsior (1 Blooded), 1 Constitution-B, 1 Renaissance, 5 Centaur-A (4 Blooded), 3 Miranda-A, and 1 Oberth
 
Iron Wolf said:
It was the general chat, other people saw it, I didn't produce screencaps because it's way up there lol.
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Thanks for the citation. Although this does demonstrate why I dislike things like Discord.

Iron Wolf said:
Lol, yes. Why would you turn that on the President and make her look to be incompetent?
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Because the idea that anyone can keep that sort of thing quiet for that long is simply unbelievable. She'd have to be incredibly out of touch to not find out that all those ships have left their sectors. It would be all over the news. It would the equvilant of the US having one of their supercarriers suddenly redeploy at full steam, everyone would notice.

The only scenario which is even vaguely plausible is:
Who reports ship movements to her? C-in-C Starfleet. It's why she'd be so pissed -- you'd be flat up lying to her and having cronies cover up your tracks for weeks.
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but if that was true I can literally not imagine a situation in which that would not result in the immediate dismissal of Sulu followed up by him, and everyone else involved, being court-martialed for treason. That there is a decent chance of him not only retaining his job but getting off scot-free tells me this can not be the the situation.
 
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