*Ceremonial nobility is fine, but you don't let them give orders!
The real problem seems to be an operating aristocracy. Like, Queens, Kings and Princes and those are useful. It's occasionally handy to have someone to take responsibility for moral correctness who doesn't have to stand for election and hospitals and what not need to be opened with an official face.
Just, um, keep an eye on how much of the budget they get to swing around and promote a tradition of public service within the royal family.
Anyone below that and I start feeling dubious. Probably because there are too many of them to keep a proper eye on.
 
As someone who skips the majority of the omake here I'd rather not have any omake posted in quotes, even those I do skip. Scrolling past an omake is a negligible effort, and it's preferable for it to be immediately obvious that a given post is an omake, which isn't the case if they are posted in quotes. It also makes them more difficult to find when Oneiros wants to threadmark them.

...which is why they're all labeled omakes in the part before the quote when I do it.

Also it's really not a negligible effort to scroll past some of the larger omakes in this thread. I speak from experience.
 
I don't see a reason to ever put them in quotes or even a spoiler. It isn't hard to scroll by them or just skip them entirely. Quotes makes it hard to read, and a spoiler makes it easy to miss and pointlessly contrived for something as simple as a wall of text.
 
...which is why they're all labeled omakes in the part before the quote when I do it.

Also it's really not a negligible effort to scroll past some of the larger omakes in this thread. I speak from experience.
Threadmarks? Skip to the next page? Use the page down button? Use the push button in your scroll wheel?
 
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Also it's really not a negligible effort to scroll past some of the larger omakes in this thread. I speak from experience.
I mean, from you experience sure. But I've never found it much of a chore anyways, I don't read all of them, never have, but scrolling past isn't a hardship, and skipping via threadmark if available is easy too.
 
I mean, putting the omake into the post twice, once quoted and once spoilered, isnt much effort and satisfies both factions. As silly as it sounds it would be a good solution, unless I am missing something.
 
I quoted and only the title appears....

Anyway, I do appreciate the pro-Gorn effort but I'm not sure about making them an actual* monarchy. Spacegoing species that still practice hereditary rule seem rather sneered at. The Licori got no end of shit for it, as you'll recall.

*Ceremonial nobility is fine, but you don't let them give orders!

I think the Gorn are a Monarchy in Canon/Beta-Canon
 
Threadmarks? Skip to the next page? Use the page down button? Use the push button in your scroll wheel?

Caring about discussion of non-omake issues that goes on in the thread, not just threadmarks?

Like I literally read everything but some of the omakes in the thread before I started posting here.
 
The real problem seems to be an operating aristocracy. Like, Queens, Kings and Princes and those are useful. It's occasionally handy to have someone to take responsibility for moral correctness who doesn't have to stand for election and hospitals and what not need to be opened with an official face.
Just, um, keep an eye on how much of the budget they get to swing around and promote a tradition of public service within the royal family.
Anyone below that and I start feeling dubious. Probably because there are too many of them to keep a proper eye on.
Well, the Gorn have a 'court,' which suggests they DO have an aristocracy. The queen is preoccupied with the fact that she personally has thin eggshells and therefore has not been able to have an heir, which suggests at least the monarchy is hereditary.

On the other hand, the Gorn Empire has existed since at least 1500 AD without conquering the galaxy. Maybe now we know why- because they are a hereditary monarchy in a galaxy full of meritocrats.
 
So I know an Author who is probably gonna need a beta, and this is where all the best trek-fans I know are so...who likes AOS, Red Cross spaceships, medical ethics, and Corbomite Manuevers? 20k-25k words.
 
Anyways did someone say Gorn??????
If we didn't before, we certainly have now!

The guards raised their heavy heads and sniffed, sunlight glittering into his eyes off what seemed every part of them: the silvery hexagon-patterned eyeshields they wore, the polished surfaces of their armor, the suddenly-exposed ivory daggers of their teeth, the engraved barrels of their ready-held rifles.
Ohh, shiny!

Ashtarr clapped his hands together in delight, boots clicking smartly on the tile as he strode by the two Royal Guards. He couldn't see their eyes, but he imagined they followed his every step.
Somebody is certainly enjoying the attention.

It is by such movements your man here," He nodded carefully at Ss'trano, "Undoes your defense. He is, of course, your most loyal of guards, known to be quick to defend your honor and name. But see how he reacts even before the Royal Guardsmen at such an insult, the anger in his eye
The best part of this is how Ashtarr oh so carefully dances around making an accusation that the Queen and her man Ss'trano are even closer than they would publicly care to admit.

Also, this is amazing, a swashbuckling Gorn Rogue Trader with a nice feathered hat.
I'm glad I'm not the only one to immediately think 'Rogue Trader' while reading.

Spacegoing species that still practice hereditary rule seem rather sneered at.
The fact that the Federation has its share of prejudices simply adds to the charm of this game.
 
I think the Gorn are a Monarchy in Canon/Beta-Canon
They're referred to as the 'Gorn Hegemony' in ENT, which says very little about their actual method of government. It does, however, suggest that they would have client states.

(And it's outright stated that the Orion Syndicate trade with them, at least to an extent)

STO, meanwhile, mentions a king.
 
The real reason to have contact with the Gorn is so that you can trick human time travellers into thinking they stopped the extinction of the dinosaurs and prevented humans from evolving.
 
The real reason to have contact with the Gorn is so that you can trick human time travellers into thinking they stopped the extinction of the dinosaurs and prevented humans from evolving.
"*barely suppressed laughter* Silly mammal, thanks to you, the dinosaurs were able to retain their rightful rule of eahahahahaha I can't do it." :D
 
FDS on the ISC
Alright, time for the FDS memo to the Admiral:

The Interstellar Commonwealth has various complications that they can present. Their approach to threats has been honed to be very robust, and they have learned it is rarely a good idea to leave threats to re-coalesce. However, they are philosophically sympathetic to the Federation, and vice versa. Their willingness to initiate a War of Conquest is effectively nil. Even against an emergent threat, a war is not the first option. However, if someone starts shooting, that hostile actor will find it extremely difficult to extricate themselves from the conflict that results. Culturally speaking, there is little focus on starting a war, but a considerable emphasis on the idea of finishing a war. Likewise, the challenge here for the Federation would be that if they join in with the ISC in a defensive campaign, we may reach a point where the Federation would be satisfied with a peace treaty or a surrender with terms, but the ISC wishes to completely suppress the threat vector. Certainly, the words 'status quo ante bellum' are not part of their strategic lexicon.

Despite this approach to warfare, the Interstellar Commonwealth, as near as can be ascertained by an FDS Investigatory Arm that was burnt once over the Arcadian-Ked Paddah conflict, are not a cause of interstellar-political tensions. By and large, they keep to a slow and thorough expansion, as opposed to other powers like the Cardassians, Klingons, and Romulans, who claimed large swathes of space and are now in-filling (with varying levels of desperation). They are few great cultural sticking points, arguably considerably less than existed between the Federation and the Hives of the Apiata..

All in all, the Interstellar Commonwealth presents no first-order direct strategic challenge, but a few second-order challenges.
 
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