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To Boldly Go... (a Starfleet quest)

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Leila Hann said:
Brilliance.

My headcanon is now that Kirk realized this in-universe, and acted accordingly.
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Leslie:

"...That is just possible... but we lost something like fifty people in the first two thirds of the '66 five year mission. If Kirk was covering for us on purpose- eh hell, I already said we'd all be dead if not for him turning up the charm. Thing is... I honestly think ka'Sharren's casualty rate came more from machinery accidents than enemy action, which is pretty damn impressive for the Corps. So if Kirk was doing it on purpose, I have to figure ka'Sharren does it, uh, more vigorously."
 
Simon_Jester said:
Leslie:

"...That is just possible... but we lost something like fifty people in the first two thirds of the '66 five year mission. If Kirk was covering for us on purpose- eh hell, I already said we'd all be dead if not for him turning up the charm. Thing is... I honestly think ka'Sharren's casualty rate came more from machinery accidents than enemy action, which is pretty damn impressive for the Corps. So if Kirk was doing it on purpose, I have to figure ka'Sharren does it, uh, more vigorously."
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Gul Penelya Miran.

I rest my case.
 
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Leslie:

"...That is just possible... but we lost something like fifty people in the first two thirds of the '66 five year mission. If Kirk was covering for us on purpose- eh hell, I already said we'd all be dead if not for him turning up the charm. Thing is... I honestly think ka'Sharren's casualty rate came more from machinery accidents than enemy action, which is pretty damn impressive for the Corps. So if Kirk was doing it on purpose, I have to figure ka'Sharren does it, uh, more vigorously."
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As far as I remember there isn't a single mention of any fatalities during Ka'Sharren's missions.

Well, excepting 33 Fujit, which I suppose was some sort of Karmic casualty sink.
 
Also, by our crew system the total casualties for Kirk's run add up to about 2 Enlisted, give or take. That's not so unusual for a 5YM, and might have even been better than average back in the TOS era when the frontier was wilder and technology was less reliable.
 
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Leslie:

"I'm just saying, if you want to find somebody who criticizes a starship captain on account of their sex life, don't go looking to the RSPS. It has problems, but it saves redshirts in the long run... Hm. Could we cut back on the problems...?"

[muses]

"Maybe if the first officer were the horndog and the captain were more calm and professional? Gotta see if we can pull strings and do an experiment with that."
 
Nervos Belli said:
From what I know of wisdom teeth the amount of pain and recovery time required varies wildly from person to person, so personal accounts aren't necessarily indicative.
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Apparently getting it done in your 30s when your wisdom teeth have really had a chance to grow roots is also a special kind of stupid.

<-- is a special kind of stupid.
 
Goat said:
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I do still want to know how the Cardassians got enough income to believe that they can populate those berths - sure they got some rich affiliates in the last couple of years, but that generally doesn't fund several cruisers on repeat build for every affiliate.
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I still think it comes down to a different economic model/systems. In the Federation, especially the older core worlds, most of the production is focused on the civilian sector to provide the "post-scarcity" prosperity and massive social state (and this is then copied by the new members since it is the main attraction of the Fed model for the general population) while in civilizations like the Cardassians (or Klingons) the military has much higher priority which allows them to punch "above" their weight when it comes to military production and ships since they spent a much higher percentage of their available resources on it.

A bit like for example Russia and Germany in the RL.
 
Erandil said:
I still think it comes down to a different economic model/systems. In the Federation, especially the older core worlds, most of the production is focused on the civilian sector to provide the "post-scarcity" prosperity and massive social state (and this is then copied by the new members since it is the main attraction of the Fed model for the general population) while in civilizations like the Cardassians (or Klingons) the military has much higher priority which allows them to punch "above" their weight when it comes to military production and ships since they spent a much higher percentage of their available resources on it.

A bit like for example Russia and Germany in the RL.
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That also explains what happens with the Federation's war production if a 'state of emergency' is declared. Which means most of the analysts in the Caradassian, Romulan and Klingon empires should advise a short victorious war because war with a fully geared up Federation is going to be unpleasant.
 
MTB said:
That also explains what happens with the Federation's war production if a 'state of emergency' is declared. Which means most of the analysts in the Caradassian, Romulan and Klingon empires should advise a short victorious war because war with a fully geared up Federation is going to be unpleasant.
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Or bet empires on a game of 3-D chess.
 
In general, any war worth mobilizing for is a war where sure, the mobilization may cost you a recession... But losing the war can easily cost you everything you have, including the stuff you'd have retained during the recession.
 
Simon_Jester said:
Leslie:

"I'm just saying, if you want to find somebody who criticizes a starship captain on account of their sex life, don't go looking to the RSPS. It has problems, but it saves redshirts in the long run... Hm. Could we cut back on the problems...?"

[muses]

"Maybe if the first officer were the horndog and the captain were more calm and professional? Gotta see if we can pull strings and do an experiment with that."
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Surely at some point someone in Starfleet Personnel is going to notice this correlation.
Maybe at then they will institute some extra 'applied xenobiology and cultural custons' courses for command officers.

Lieutenant: Do we really have to engage in these kinds of 'practical applications' ma'am?

Instructor: Lie back and think of the Federation dear.
 
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AKuz said:
I think the Federation probably only ever fully mobilized once: The Dominion War.
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There was the Federation Romulan war during the early years. I am pretty sure the Romulans would have driven the Federation to fully mobilize in self defense. Although I could be wrong since my knowledge of that part of federation history is practically non existent.
 
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