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Nervos Belli said:
One fun detail about the Risans, although I forget if it's canon for this quest or not, is that their planet was originally fairly inhospitable until they built a weather control system to give them the balmy paradise they are known for. The Risans are surrounded everyday with proof that they can change the world for the better through cooperation and learning, which I think would affect their mindset. For all that they deserve their reputation as the party planet, there are some very bright Risans out there with an itch for exploration and understanding. In a world without the Federation, I can see the Risans trying to establish something similar on their own.
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Oh, there's obviously more to them than just hedonism. Regardless of whether or not the weather control thing is thread canon, they developed FTL travel! That's at least as impressive.

Iron Wolf said:
Thanks! I like Iifirdir too. Also, you're more than free to picture that one asshole Bajoran teenager as being played by Jack Gleeson if you want to keep him cast @Leila Hann :V

RE: the megatortoise -- the two black rectangles on the bottom of the megatortoise when looking at it from behind are the impulse engines and not the shuttlebay, right? I dunno if it's worth clearing up but I think if you colored the center in red/whatever color the rigellians have on their impulse engines it might clear it up.

Other than that I love it. I guess Duvip, when not at the Kid's table, is making puppy-dog eyes at the guy who designed the photon lances.
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Those are impulse engines, yeah. I'll consider recoloring them as per your comment. And thanks.

Simon_Jester said:
For this quest that might not work so well since part of our underlying notion is that the Risans evolved in an environment so resource-rich that the proto-Risans evolved to cooperate far more ardently, and compete far less violently, than almost any other humans.

But I like the idea very very much.
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Not incompatible. The storms we saw in that one (terrible) Deep Space Nine episode didn't seem that awful for people who aren't spoiled by constant good weather. Their existence doesn't prevent the overall ancestral environment of the Risans from being one of plenty.


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2. There's a whole subculture of alien-admiring Risans who insist that their species needs to start taking things seriously and be sober and responsible like their friends in the Federation. They end up trying to be "more human than humans" as they imitate the aliens without fully understanding the reality underneath the superficial. They honestly come across as rather adorable, though few humans would be so mean as to say so.
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Well, we know that a few Risans have adopted the reactionary idea that the galaxy is too dangerous for them, and that they will need to become violent in order to get rid of the violent aliens and keep Risa peaceful in the long run. I seem to recall Eaton having a run-in with terrorists of this nature.
 
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Simon_Jester said:
Okay, that's a good point.

Although in that case there are probably Risans who yearn for thunderstorms...
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I don't think they keep the ENTIRE planet sunny. That would just wreck the biosphere.

Remember, the only time the Risan weather control system has been mentioned was in what many consider to be the single worst Deep Space Nine episode. It wasn't very well thought out. We can keep some ideas from it if we want, but we shouldn't feel beholden to the stupider details.
 
Wasn't the Weather and Seismic control mentioned in Enterprise as well?

Also I'll take "The Gang Vacations With Fascists" over move along home any day :V
 
Leila Hann said:
I don't think they keep the ENTIRE planet sunny. That would just wreck the biosphere.

Remember, the only time the Risan weather control system has been mentioned was in what many consider to be the single worst Deep Space Nine episode. It wasn't very well thought out. We can keep some ideas from it if we want, but we shouldn't feel beholden to the stupider details.
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I imagine they wouldn't force constant perpetual sameness of weather on any place. But there'd be a tendency to 'schedule' rain and other inconvenient climate things for times when it wouldn't bother people, and to moderate and mitigate weather so that it doesn't cause property damage. People wouldn't miss rain, but they might miss heavy thunderstorms.
 
I imagine they stage thunderstorms for dawn or sunset, periods where they can make the most striking images. Rain is probably also scheduled for the hottest parts of the day, both to free up some nighttime periods (long walks on moonlit beaches) and because you'd might need more rain than you can pack into darkness to maintain a sure tropical climate.
 
Iron Wolf said:
Wasn't the Weather and Seismic control mentioned in Enterprise as well?

Also I'll take "The Gang Vacations With Fascists" over move along home any day :V
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The Risa episode of Enterprise is very clearly being disregarded in this quest. According to ENT, Risa was already a popular interstellar tourist destination long before the Federation was formed, and humans knew all about it. In TBG, we had our first contact with this previously unknown civilization shortly after their invention of warp drive in the early 2300's.

EDIT: "Profit and Lace" is probably the most unpopular DS9 episode, but "Let He Who is Without Sin" has its fair share of votes. Not sure how it compares with "Move Along Home," but either way, its a pretty terribad episode.
 
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Iron Wolf said:
So I took the feedback and made some revisions to the original. I feel like it better has Sorje ramp up the dickishness. I'm just included the revised section below in the spoiler if you don't want to read the whole thing again.
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what you had before was quite good.. this new version is fraking amazing. I could hear each voice clearly w/o needing to read who was speaking. I could get a sense of each character's motivation an background... the first chancellor came across as more of a restorationist a few too many cups into his wine and less of a spoiled brat.. bravo!!one!
 
OMG It's been six hours without comments.

PANIC!

So.... how about those blue... black spells???

I mean. H-how is everyone? I am fine. EVERYTHING IS FINE.

I haven't been spending much time writing omakes lately because I've been practicing my drawing, working on an update to my own fic, and working on stuff for that AU Honour Harrington quest that I accidentally volunteered myself for. That and a combination of Nier: Automata and a Minecraft server devouring whatever free time is left.
 
AKuz said:
OMG It's been six hours without comments.

PANIC!

So.... how about those blue... black spells???

I mean. H-how is everyone? I am fine. EVERYTHING IS FINE.
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I guess the Kad Peddah got most of us to help repair their ships. It seemed like the prudent thing to do, all of us right near the quest, and not too busy.
 
AKuz said:
I haven't been spending much time writing omakes lately because I've been practicing my drawing, working on an update to my own fic, and working on stuff for that AU Honour Harrington quest that I accidentally volunteered myself for. That and a combination of Nier: Automata and a Minecraft server devouring whatever free time is left.
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:V

More seriously, with an uptick in IRL stuff, I'm kinda glad things have slowed down a bit allowing me to keep up :oops:
 
Honestly I just like to see the page count rocket towards, and pass, that of other, much longer running, quests.

> : P
 
On a random note, I went and counted Lt. Leslie's appearances in away teams.

Leslie actually shows up in more episodes than Sulu and Chekov- narrowly. But like 80% of the time he was an extra serving on the bridge, usually manning the engineering station, watching the drama between the main characters with his trademark concerned expression, and flying hilariously across the bridge every time the Enterprise took a hit.

However, Leslie did serve as on away teams on at least eight and arguably nine occasions. He died only once, but that kept him down only briefly; the ur-redshirt made a return to away team duties afterwards to (maybe) help his captain fight space Nazis and round up not one but two psychotic corrupt Federation nationals who were committing epic Prime Directive violations!

This supports my hypothesis that Leslie started TOS with some of the strongest character shields in all of fiction... only to have them slowly worn down to nothing by the brutal angle-grinder of being a redshirt for over fifty episodes.

The complete list of Leslie away team appearances:

1) Leslie was one of the crewmen who beamed down with Kirk as muscle to help maroon Gary Mitchell in Where No Man Has Gone Before.
2) Remember the episode where Sulu was freezing his ass off on the planet, huddled under a tarp in a blizzard with a couple of redshirts, while Kirk had gotten split into good and evil halves? That was The Enemy Within, and Leslie is the guy to the left of Sulu in the scenes on the planet.
3) Leslie was part of the away team in Return of the Archons, falling prey to the mind control computer for part of the episode. Prior to that point he helped hold off rioters with his phaser.
4) Acted as manual labor to help evacuate the Omricon Ceti III colony... before the spores set in and brainwashed the entire Enterprise crew, that is.
5) Got the crud beaten out of him by angry whozittium miners in The Devil in the Dark while Kirk and Spock were off hunting for the Horta.
6) Led the security team that broke up the barfight between Scotty, Chekov, and the Klingons, in The Trouble with Tribbles.
7) Got his blood eaten by a cloud-monster in Obsession. Pronounced dead. Continued appearing in episodes, and I believe he was mentioned by name to boot.
8) When Kirk impersonated a space-Nazi officer in Patterns of Force, Leslie's actor (Eddie Paskey) is driving Kirk's staff car, but Paskey recounts: "We shot the driving shot late at night about 11:00 pm. Being in the auto business so long, I was the only one around that could drive the old Benz..." I'm inclined to count this one; someone had to be driving the car, and it pretty much has to have been someone Starfleet, not one of the native space Nazis.
9) Leslie's last away team mission was as backup for Sulu in a detail sent down to arrest Captain Tracey in The Omega Glory.
 
OneirosTheWriter said:
I do get the feeling it would be best to try to wrap the whole Arcadian sequence up relatively quickly. But I guess a lot of the problem is that my update rate has slipped a bit.
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Eh I think you're reading too much into any perceived popularity of this Arcadian war stuff. I think we're all just holding our breath at this point. A dozen or so Licori war updates, interspersed with the "conventional" updates, have all been leading up to the next critical handful of war updates.

That's not to say there aren't problems with the war mechanics beyond the update rate and long time between vote and consequence. The relatively low voter counts for the mobilization and assignment phases does indicate that nitty gritty details like teams, locations, ETCs, and so forth are escaping easy understanding by the majority of the voters - or at least, such voters aren't willing to spend the time to grok the whole picture and the impact of a vote.

Some brainstorming on what can be done to help with that... The Grey October crisis was helped a lot by the maps that Nix provided, even if they were always stale in the update that included them. Updating maps with unit positions would also be awesome here, but failing that, at least link to the latest map should be provided in relevant updates.

Perhaps more helpful would be clearer month-by-month visualizations of fleet and mobilized team assignments and progress, instead of info scattered across several (sometimes spoilered) sections of an update. Like a scrum board, or rather something like Briefvoice's ship building spreadsheet.
 
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[X] Attack Ixaria Orbit
No. of Votes: 34
Briefvoice
Aeondrac
aeqnai
AKuz
Chimeraguard
ClawClawBite
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Driven by Apathy
Finagle007
Gear
Gingganz
Glassware
Goat
Godwinson
Gravitas Hunt
Iron Wolf
JesseJ
KnightDisciple
Kyushiro
Leila Hann
Mr Tebbs
Muramasa
Nervos Belli
Night_stalker
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Random Member
random_npc
Shard
Steven Kodaly
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Theunderbolt
ThoughtMaster
UbeOne
Wellhello

[X] Attack Further Research Stations (Maximum of 2)
-[X] Attack Iron Hail
-[X] No Second Target
No. of Votes: 2
Chaos Blade
DarknessSmiles

[X] Attack Further Research Stations (Maximum of 2)
-[X] Attack Ixira's Scalpel
-[X] Attack Iron Dome
No. of Votes: 2
Simon_Jester
AlphaDelta

(pretty sure this one is invalid, so striking it out)
[X] Attack Ixaria Orbit
-[X] Attack Iron Hail
No. of Votes: 1
Joshrand1982

Total No. of Voters: 39

edit: just realized I never voted lol
 
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@Leila Hann , all Cardassian ships are ugly yellow blobs, and your Cardassian ships are the best goddamn ugly yellow blobs I can remember seeing. Seriously, the design aesthetic you're forced to work with are utterly terrible and you're actually making it work anyway. At least in my book.

[nods, impressed]

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Headcanon: Cardassian engineering ships look like ships from a Vogon constructor fleet.
 
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