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Fouredged Sword said:
You know what would ALSO be a really funny answer?

Everyone is using universal translators. Ever species gives starfleet ships a name in their specific language and the translators automatically fill in based on what language the listener wants to hear. We hear the human names because we watch the show in a human language.
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That works for the Nova class, the Galaxy class, even the Constitution class and the Enterprise herself. But a LOT of Starfleet vessels are named after proper nouns, individuals, specific locations, that would not translate the same way.
 
Roaming_Guardian said:
That works for the Nova class, the Galaxy class, even the Constitution class and the Enterprise herself. But a LOT of Starfleet vessels are named after proper nouns, individuals, specific locations, that would not translate the same way.
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Why would they need to be direct translations or even approximate translations? Every language group could give each ship a completely different name and because the universal translator is effective enough to tell from context that the ship is being referred to it spits out the correct name for that ship class in whatever language it is translating to.

Nyvis said:
Obviously, since ships should have animal names, what animal name should this have?

UFS Blue Whale?
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Cute as that is, we are going to build bigger. Let's save blue whale for a massive yardship or some sort of nebula harvester.

The USS Manatee.
 
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I want to name them for the wonders of the ancient world since they are such a monument in building and engineering and we are never making more then 7.
 
Fouredged Sword said:
Why would they need to be direct translations or even approximate translations? Every language group could give each ship a completely different name and because the universal translator is effective enough to tell from context that the ship is being referred to it spits out the correct name for that ship class in whatever language it is translating to.
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Were this the case, we would get translations for the names of at least Romulan and Klingon ships.
 
Roaming_Guardian said:
Were this the case, we would get translations for the names of at least Romulan and Klingon ships.
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Perhaps not because we did not give them specific English names and therefore the translator gives us the untranslated proper noun.

Though I have to say... We hear lots of "Bird of Prey" but not a lot of "toQDuj" when talking about Klingon ships. That suggests strongly to me that we ARE hearing translations at least some of the time.
 
Fouredged Sword said:
Perhaps not because we did not give them specific English names and therefore the translator gives us the untranslated proper noun.

Though I have to say... We hear lots of "Bird of Prey" but not a lot of "toQDuj" when talking about Klingon ships. That suggests strongly to me that we ARE hearing translations at least some of the time.
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I think what happens is that a (not a machine at all) translator slaps an official translated designation on them and everyone in the fleet use that. It has the advantage of also working with arbitrary designations for alien ships you haven't talked to yet.
 
Nyvis said:
I think what happens is that a (not a machine at all) translator slaps an official translated designation on them and everyone in the fleet use that. It has the advantage of also working with arbitrary designations for alien ships you haven't talked to yet.
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Think NATO reporting names for Soviet ships and aircraft.
 
Zimmerwald1915 said:
Think NATO reporting names for Soviet ships and aircraft.
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Honestly think all the D series names of klingon cruisers are just the federation designation number for the craft. Like D-7 is just like how nato reporting numbers for missiles work. D-7 is just the federation reporting name, while we get the Actual Klingon name in its Successor craft namely the Ktinga Class is obviously the official Klingon Name and Presumable the Federation stopped labelling Klingon cruisers by d series numbers
 
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Fouredged Sword said:
Perhaps not because we did not give them specific English names and therefore the translator gives us the untranslated proper noun.

Though I have to say... We hear lots of "Bird of Prey" but not a lot of "toQDuj" when talking about Klingon ships. That suggests strongly to me that we ARE hearing translations at least some of the time.
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Thats... literally what I said.

Galaxy, Nova, Voyager, Enterprise, these names would likely be translated fairly easily into another language.

Miranda, Columbia, Ghandi, Yorktown, these are all proper nouns and would NOT be easily translated into another language, and would remain human words.
 
Helher said:
Honestly think all the D series names of klingon cruisers are just the federation designation number for the craft. Like D-7 is just like how nato reporting numbers for missiles work. D-7 is just the federation reporting name, while we get the Actual Klingon name in its Successor craft namely the Ktinga Class is obviously the official Klingon Name and Presumable the Federation stopped labelling Klingon cruisers by d series numbers
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It could be, but Discovery really seemed to pin-down D-7 being a Klingon designation.

It seems that is closer to a type than a class. A K'tinga-Class is a D-7. The Sech-Class is a D-7. Instead of terms like "Heavy Cruiser" and what not, the Klingons categorize ships with a letter-number.

Rather, it's closer that the Federation designation is when they call the ships "Battlecruisers".
 
Roaming_Guardian said:
Thats... literally what I said.

Galaxy, Nova, Voyager, Enterprise, these names would likely be translated fairly easily into another language.

Miranda, Columbia, Ghandi, Yorktown, these are all proper nouns and would NOT be easily translated into another language, and would remain human words.
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Yes, but Bird Of Prey is a human name attached to a whole subset of ships both Klingon AND Romulan.

Yet both Romulans AND Klingons are heard saying "Bird of Prey" despite them very likely naming various ship classes within that human heading different names. I find that both Klingons AND Romulans names a classification of ships BOTH "Bird of Prey" in their respective language to be unlikely.

The simpler answer is that Starfleet designated those ships "Bird of Prey" and the translators took over and apply that whenever a Klingon or Romulan talks.
 
Fouredged Sword said:
I find that both Klingons AND Romulans names a classification of ships BOTH "Bird of Prey" in their respective language to be unlikely.
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The Klingons and Romulans have definitely traded tech before. It's not out of the question that one of them developed a "Bird of Prey" that ended up being the precursor to both ship lines.

I want to say it was the Romulans, only because they have alot of bird motifs going on. I think the Romulans developed the OG Bird of Prey at whatever time period (At least Earth-Romulan War era), and eventually shared the design with the Klingons. Both then made revisions and went in different directions with the "Bird of Prey", but they're both lineages from a shared design.
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At the absolute base, the two general formats of the Bird of Prey ARE at least vaguely similar.

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They both have two nacelles parallel to each other with short wing struts and a central hull.
 
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Klingon Cloaking Tech came from a Tech Trade with the romulans, probably because the Romulans disliked the Federation Modernising the Connies with the Refits
 
Helher said:
Klingon Cloaking Tech came from a Tech Trade with the romulans, probably because the Romulans disliked the Federation Modernising the Connies with the Refits
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We don't *ACTUALLY* know that. It's been long assumed.

All we really know is that the Romulans were using D-7's in the 2260's.

Klingons had cloaking tech prior to that in the 2250's. Although the Romulans had it as far back as the 2150's. So. It's possible.
 
Th3Saints said:
I want to name them for the wonders of the ancient world since they are such a monument in building and engineering and we are never making more then 7.
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The cities could definitely work. Alexandria, Olympia, Giza, Rhodes, Ephesus, Babylon, and Halicarnassus all seem like strong names.

I'd also be for keeping the astronomers or maybe something like famous mountaineers Hilary, Norgay, Tabei, etc.

If we weren't likely to build significantly bigger before these get decommissioned I'd be for Titan, Mammoth, Herculean, Colossus, though Rhino or Hippo might work as nicknames.
 
I cast my vote for Galileo. That would be magnifico.
But mainly because the project is called Copernicus, so astronomer names seem appropriate.
 
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