- Location
- being near locations is my passion.
I honestly need to read up on just what an i means here, 'cuz that does feel lile a relative pittance compared to a single torpedo tube
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Endorfinator
Awkwardly Social
- Location
- California
- Pronouns
- He/Him
If we are sending manned ships to do cursory examinations of every single brown dwarf star than the federation is doomed from the get go. Our ship should be for when something actually interesting that an unmanned probe isn't equipped to investigate pops up
Jensaarai
Sing Victory Everlasting
- Pronouns
- They/Them
I think there's some mechanics to the Industry cost having to do with the tritanium hull, but I don't know exactly how Sayle calculates that for the different options.
- Location
- his hidden lair
There's still nearly 500 magnitude 6 stars within 100 light years of Earth and given all the myriad excuses Star Trek can likely whip up for why things might not be observable from Earth I expect the number of 'interesting' stars to be significantly higher. Like the Delphic Expanse... which is apparently 2,000 lightyears across and illustrates my point on sheer scale even if it doesn't seem to be canon here
Empress_Boog
Grand Empress
I'm not worried about this being used as a combat ship, going out and finding trouble. I am worried that as a survey ship, trouble will find it.
Locking weapons into facing one direction is genuinely a terrible decision, and it still only has as much space as a Half-Saucer hull. That is two disadvantages on one ship, for the ability to save only one industry. I understand wanting to keep the ship cheap, we have to worry about industry cost again now that the war is over, but trying to say it needs little to no defense at all is naïve.
- Location
- Kiel; Germany
ORB ORB ORB!
You just can't handle an ORB like a real
Joke aside, you make a good point. But we geht with the
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- He/Him/His
Cost effectiveness is good. If it can do science twice as fast because it has 2 labs or can act as a hospital ship in an emergency, all for the cost of a 2 industry or about 7%* increase in the cost of the ship, then that seems like a good improvement in cost effectiveness for a Full Saucer.
*The 7% increase assumes the following:
Hull and propulsion costs increase from 12 to ~16 from Selachii
Weapons fit out drops from 16 to 12 because we don't need multiple torpedo launchers
2/(16 + 12) = ~7%
These are very conservative estimates of how much the cost of the civilian parts will increase and how much we will arm it so it will very likely be an even smaller marginal cost.
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Empress_Boog
Grand Empress
That's because the orb sucks!
NOTHING LIKE THE GLORIOUS CUBE! PUT ONE OF THOSE BADBOYS INFRONT OF ME AND I DIE OF HAPPINESS!
(This post was sponsored by the Borg Collective)
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- Location
- in between
[X] Full Saucer (Industry: 4)
I don't trust you all to not insist on mission creeping this, more space it is.
I don't trust you all to not insist on mission creeping this, more space it is.
LunaMoth
Wings of Kynareth is my comfort song...
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- He/They
the reason why you don't see many ships in Star Trek painted red.
Strunkriidiisk
THE LEGEND
- Location
- Canada
- Pronouns
- He/Him
I may be discontented by the full saucer, but even I must protest this attachment to such... tumourous rotundity.
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Horologer
Incertae sedis
- Location
- a risen sea
I agree that trouble's going to find them at least once, but when trouble does happen I don't think the ship's weapons configuration is going to be the deciding factor.
- Location
- America
[X] Sphere (Industry: 2)
BALLS
This is supposed to be a cheap as chips space kayak. No need to fit tons of stuff. If you need more science, just send two.
That and we gotta keep costs way down. Oberths die like flies, and that means these need to be even easier to crank out on those.
BALLS
This is supposed to be a cheap as chips space kayak. No need to fit tons of stuff. If you need more science, just send two.
That and we gotta keep costs way down. Oberths die like flies, and that means these need to be even easier to crank out on those.
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- Location
- Kiel; Germany
I think our most glorious ORB should be named Oppenheimer class! After a great man from Earth who also developed a kind of ORB.
See Timmy, that is what happens if you look to deep and to long into the Orb design. Sometimes the Orb starres back. And don't get strange like that fellow that sits with accounting all day and talks about Cubes!
I concur this is a dedicated Surveyor, it does not need much weaponry or other stuff.
grimely
Twink Death Sufferer
The issue has always been opportunity cost, not... cost, cost.
[X] Sphere (Industry: 2)
Sold!
- Location
- madison
It would contrast nicely with how most of our warships are named after harmless things. Our science ship is named after a man who created mankinds first WMD.
- Location
- USA
Honest question on the weapons layouts for our ships, why can we not mount weapons to the rim's of saucer sections? Or the furthest port and starboard points on a spherical primary hull to let a single weapon cover both forward and aft firing arcs?
Like I get mounting directly on the bottom of the primary hull is a problem because of the navigational deflector, and the top is usually reserved for the primary bridge. But why no port and starboard cannons?
Only thing I can think of for saucers is keeping the power transfer lines shorter by keeping the guns closer to center mass and the warp core, but that logic wouldn't apply for ORB.
Like I get mounting directly on the bottom of the primary hull is a problem because of the navigational deflector, and the top is usually reserved for the primary bridge. But why no port and starboard cannons?
Only thing I can think of for saucers is keeping the power transfer lines shorter by keeping the guns closer to center mass and the warp core, but that logic wouldn't apply for ORB.
- Location
- Kiel; Germany
Klingon: Carefull, it is a Battlecruiser of the Oppenheimer class! They once destroyed a whole squadron by exploding! Retreat! I don't fall for that trap twice!
orb ... Orb ... ORB!