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[X] Internal Nacelles (-Optional Aft Cannon, Defense Rating 10 -> 12) [Warp 3.6 Cruise]

Earth-Romulan War Memorial Museum Guide: "And so the Selachii's crews faced the worst of the losses in the war. With their ships considered disposable combatants they knew what they signed up for. This last will and testemant from the Captain of the Selachii herself reads..."

damn this thing tiny as shit

"...yes the ships are often considered rather cute."
 
[X] Internal Nacelles (-Optional Aft Cannon, Defense Rating 10 -> 12) [Warp 3.6 Cruise]

Earth-Romulan War Memorial Museum Guide: "And so the Selachii's crews faced the worst of the losses in the war. With their ships considered disposable combatants they knew what they signed up for. This last will and testemant from the Captain of the Selachii herself reads..."
Considering how much smaller these are than even the Stingrays their crew is probably pretty small too. I think the Stingray crew losses will have them beaten.
 
[X] Internal Nacelles (-Optional Aft Cannon, Defense Rating 10 -> 12) [Warp 3.6 Cruise]

Shark! Shark! Shark! Shark! Shark!

Otherwise i think we should give the stingray a B-block after this, upgun it and/or install the advanced cannons and let the class live out the rest of its service life with dignity.
Honestly i think we might just want to do block upgrades for the NX and zheng he as well, we probably don't want to start production of another shieldless class of ship and im a fan of refits.
 
[X] Internal Nacelles (-Optional Aft Cannon, Defense Rating 10 -> 12) [Warp 3.6 Cruise]

Shark! Shark! Shark! Shark! Shark!

Otherwise i think we should give the stingray a B-block after this, upgun it and/or install the advanced cannons and let the class live out the rest of its service life with dignity.
Honestly i think we might just want to do block upgrades for the NX and zheng he as well, we probably don't want to start production of another shieldless class of ship and im a fan of refits.
The stingray doesn't seem worth refitting to me.

The NX though, it should get the Phased Pulse Cannons, and the zheng he does deserve a better engine.
 
[X] Internal Nacelles (-Optional Aft Cannon, Defense Rating 10 -> 12) [Warp 3.6 Cruise]

I'm thinking more Wolfpack than independent steaming. What we need is "lots", getting that and high quality together takes time. And since it's lots, they're going to be covering each other.
 
Even so the losses are pretty negligible, like our civilian KIA total exceed our military death by a factor like 100k:1.
I wonder how our military losses stack up against the romulans.

We've probably lost a little more in terms of ship crews, but the personnel they had on those stations, and what ever Garrison they had on Denobula when the Denobulans took control back might mean that Starfleet is coming out of this better than they are.
 
[X] Internal Nacelles (-Optional Aft Cannon, Defense Rating 10 -> 12) [Warp 3.6 Cruise]

As I said, I'm voting Internal.
 
[X] Internal Nacelles (-Optional Aft Cannon

I feel like this ship is so small it should be a drone instead. Controlled from the Thunderchild class or NX that it will be escorting.

Going the Caspar/Von Neumann route.
 
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I wonder how our military losses stack up against the romulans.

We've probably lost a little more in terms of ship crews, but the personnel they had on those stations, and what ever Garrison they had on Denobula when the Denobulans took control back might mean that Starfleet is coming out of this better than they are.

Given Stingrays only have like 30 people we are coming out pretty good probably.
 
[X] Internal Nacelles (-Optional Aft Cannon, Defense Rating 10 -> 12) [Warp 3.6 Cruise]
 
The stingray doesn't seem worth refitting to me.

The NX though, it should get the Phased Pulse Cannons, and the zheng he does deserve a better engine.
No, our first child deserves only the best.
But more seriously, i feel like they have a good bit of life left in them in their original role, and putting new guns on them is cheaper than building a bunch of new ships that will already be obsolete in 3-4 years.
 
[X] Internal Nacelles (-Optional Aft Cannon, Defense Rating 10 -> 12) [Warp 3.6 Cruise]

I guess , If we really go all out on crash building for the war, they might scrap the torpedo bays and turn these ships into fast passenger or cargo ships.

Down the line, the whole fleet needs to be rebuilt for shield tech, and anything with a warp 5 engine is heaps better than than the warp 2/3 ships that are probably still common outside of starfleet.
 
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I can think of a good reason for an aft cannon.

Alpha Strike > Pass By to Assess the Target's Damage > Continue Firing on Target with Aft Cannon if Target is still Functioning more than is Acceptable

That said:

[X] Internal Nacelles (-Optional Aft Cannon, Defense Rating 10 -> 12) [Warp 3.6 Cruise]
 
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