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Skippy said:
Also more broadly, people can honestly just chill out and go touch grass for a bit. No one is being forced to read the quest.
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Honestly you're not wrong, I find it especially ironic the people saying stuff like that apparently haven't bothered to read the situation or design brief. A cheap ship-killer is desperately required. Do anything possible to attain maximum combat utility on a budget. More specifically counter the D7 so our ship can reliably expect a win 1:1.

As an aside, assuming we have another ship design before the Klingon war, I think we should do a couple different things. If we get a utility vessel like a survey ship or something with a warp 8 reactor, it may be advantageous to standardize fore and aft torpedo launchers on non-combat frigate-sized ships, and maybe dual fore and aft launchers on utility and science cruisers too. With such a design, it might also be worthwhile giving it something like light covariant shields, push our combat technology along in a way that's not disastrously expensive while also not being a problem if we get a bad roll. After all, better shields even on a utility ship has anti-piracy value if nothing else, and might make BoPs at least avoid our territory if they know Starfleet survey ships can bloody their noses, even if it won't stop a D6.

I really want even more advancements to torpedo technology and shields. If we get experimental Type-2 shields and get a shot at rolling for them, even better, 'cuz we really need the advantage. Ironically I think that sort of technology might be best first deployed first on something not a combat ship, and we go light, in order to keep the costs manageable and quickly shift it from dodgy experimental to less-dodgy prototype.

You reckon that sounds sensible?

Also, I can't imagine another cruiser-sized build before the war, I'm thinking next up we'll either have a smaller design or the Type-4 nacelle design.
 
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Mechanis said:
nope. Sayle said outright the Constitution namespace isn't going to include "Enterprise"

So we aren't going to get an Enterprise on this design, but we might well see a Washington or Lincoln.
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Funnily enough, I think you could possibly squeeze a Missouri out of it since she was the place of the signing of the peace treaty that fully ended World War Two*.

*Yes it's not quite that clean cut, but for all intents and purposes the war ended on her deck.
 
Mechanis said:
I mean, Sayle outright stated that even if it does get called "Constitution", the chosen namespace isn't going to include "Enterprise" in the update. presumably because of the rather vehement reactions from some parties.

I just don't want to call it "Constitution" because I don't think the name fits.
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I have to agree with Skippy I don't think thats what that means?
 
Skippy said:
This is very definitely not a thing that he has said, and is not what the quoted part can reasonably be read to mean.
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It doesn't say "No Enterprise", so getting an Enterprise is Possible, and wouldn't be particularly surprising, but what it does say does lend itself to the understanding "don't be surprised if Enterprise doesn't end up making the list, as there's lots of other options that fit more easily".
 
[x] Exigence class
[x] Dragon class
[x] Halberd class
[x] Excalibur class
[X] Declaration-class
[X] Intrepid-class.
[X] Republic-class.
[X] Enterprise-class.
[X] Independence-class.
 
[X] Constitution-class

There's been an unreasonable amount of salt with the background behind this design and I personally don't think it matters if the 'Enterprise' ends up being a ship of this class or a different once.

I just think that Constitution fit's the best given the ship has plenty of things it can do outside of a war whereas Excalibur is up weapon albeit one with quite a bit of symbolic meaning.
It's not going to be replacing something like the Kea when it comes to the sheer volume of survey work that the Kea managed but it should be able to take over the Saladin's old frontier surveying and security jobs and the expanded medbay let's it contribute to resolving non-military crises.
 
Cold Dust said:
Honestly you're not wrong, I find it especially ironic the people saying stuff like that apparently haven't bothered to read the situation or design brief. A cheap ship-killer is desperately required. Do anything possible to attain maximum combat utility on a budget. More specifically counter the D7 so our ship can reliably expect a win 1:1.

As an aside, assuming we have another ship design before the Klingon war, I think we should do a couple different things. If we get a utility vessel like a survey ship or something with a warp 8 reactor, it may be advantageous to standardize fore and aft torpedo launchers on non-combat frigate-sized ships, and maybe dual fore and aft launchers on utility and science cruisers too. With such a design, it might also be worthwhile giving it something like light covariant shields, push our combat technology along in a way that's not disastrously expensive while also not being a problem if we get a bad roll. After all, better shields even on a utility ship has anti-piracy value if nothing else, and might make BoPs at least avoid our territory if they know Starfleet survey ships can bloody their noses, even if it won't stop a D6.

I really want even more advancements to torpedo technology and shields. If we get experimental Type-2 shields and get a shot at rolling for them, even better, 'cuz we really need the advantage. Ironically I think that sort of technology might be best first deployed first on something not a combat ship, and we go light, in order to keep the costs manageable and quickly shift it from dodgy experimental to less-dodgy prototype.

You reckon that sounds sensible?

Also, I can't imagine another cruiser-sized build before the war, I'm thinking next up we'll either have a smaller design or the Type-4 nacelle design.
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... the design brief was "Kill D6s and hopefully the rumoured new class (that we know OOU is the D7). Try to keep the cost from ballooing out of proportion to capability gain in its core function of "Kill Klingon Battlecruisers" but other than that you have a free hand."
Some people took that to mean "It must be inexpensive to produce" despite cost being a very distant third prioity compared to ability to kill Klingon Battlecruisers, which was to be considered the first and second priority.


Anyway. If we indeed do another build I am expecting something in the Selatchii conceptual space, and will try to get a canonical version of the Otodus built because recycling the Selatchii tooling will likely save at least some time on getting it into production, but I more than half expect that we're in Aelia Iacta Est mode here and will be getting the Type Four Nacelle over the course of the war.
 
[x] Defiant-class.
[x] Other.
-[x] Aegis-class - For its mission to defend the Federation

Gonna throw my own suggestion in
 
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Chargone said:
It doesn't say "No Enterprise", so getting an Enterprise is Possible, and wouldn't be particularly surprising, but what it does say does lend itself to the understanding "don't be surprised if Enterprise doesn't end up making the list, as there's lots of other options that fit more easily".
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To be honest, I find this whole framing odd; there is almost certainly going to be an Enterprise regardless of the class name we pick. The ship is Kirk's Enterprise. That's never not been true.

I appreciate and am sympathetic to some degree that for a very small minority of players, this might be unwelcome. But hopefully making this clear upfront will make it less of a shock when the next update arrives, so we can move on.
 
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