Later editions give a list of "safe" types of wishes, then tell the GM to Monkey's Paw anything beyond those scopes. Don't think the are specific advice on how to adjudicate them though beyond "make it backfire" and "irony is good".
 
And if you think Wish shenanigans are bad, the party cleric should think very hard about why their God might grant their prayer for Divine Intervention.
 
My experiences with use of the Wish spell has been one of DM-Devilry-Enforcement. That is to say, there was no such thing as safe wishes. Every source of a wish is treated as if it were Asmodeus himself throwing the players into a ball pit composed of monkey paws. It's gotten to the point where at least I would never trust any item/spell/NPC/Player Character that can grant a wish!

If I was playing a poor peasant farmer and one of my fellows at the table suddenly finds a ring of three wishes, I WILL BREAK THE RULE OF NON-METAGAMING TO WRING THE RING AWAY FROM THE SHMUCK BEFORE TAKING EVERY ACTION POSSIBLE TO DESTROY IT AS IF IT WERE A PIECE OF METAL FORGED FROM MOUNT DOOM!!!




I wonder what it is like to actually have a Wish go off in a game as intended....
 
See, our GM tends to treat Wish on the basis of "what's most fun", along with letting us apply as many qualitative statements to the wish to compensate for the potential monkey paw.

Y'all are sadists >>
 
I wonder what it is like to actually have a Wish go off in a game as intended....

Doesn't happen often, in my experience. Mostly because of players trying to game the system for an advantage. I've had a few players with a Wish granting item or spell who used it for something tame, like to cast Raise Dead when the party's cleric got killed in battle and the party is no where near a temple. Some of the more amusing things were a party that found a Ring of 3 Wishes, and one person immediately put it on before it was identified. Not to make a wish, but because it looked nice. The first (accidental) wish was something along the lines of "I wish we had some damn food, I'm so damn hungry I could eat a dragon." Note, the party had forgotten to buy trail rations, and the the party's ranger had been consistently only gathering enough for 1 or 2 people due to rolling badly. You can imagine the panic the players experienced when I started grinning and rolling dice behind my DM screen.

Not that I needed to roll any dice. I'd already had an encounter with an animated cake shaped like a dragon planned out.
EDIT: Note that the cake had been baked by a succubus the party had encountered previously.
 
Wishing for a high level item; while transporting the player to the hoard room of the dragon that happened to own it (because of course it was in a dragon's hoard) is definitely a thing, they have been known to get "creative" and Wish for said item to be translocated with a specific object such as "I Wish for a +6 sword to be exchanged for the ordinary steel sword on that table" - this is an ideal opportunity for them to discover that the current owner of said sword just happened to be inspecting it, using it, or otherwise holding it at the time and came along for the ride. Especially if there happens to be enough room for a suitably levelled dragon to appear next to the table…
 
I had one player make such a wish, only they flubbed their wording a bit in their excitement. Instead of saying "I wish I have a (insert item)", they said "I wish I am a (insert magic item).

The game stopped. At first because none of us could believe what the wish had been. Then because everyone (including the player who made the poorly worded wish) couldn't stop laughing. Can't remember what he turned himself into off hand. Think it was a rare magic sword though.
 
When it comes to wishes, you figure out the safe ones (Ability Score boosting, for example) . . . and then around Name Level, when you start to get planar travel options, you begin raiding the City of Brass for efreeti. Around level 16, you switch from raiding to invasion.

Or at least, that's the AD&D 1e way, since Ability Scores are otherwise nigh-impossible to improve. (Not that 2e or 4e were any better, with 3e being flat-out worse.)

To contrast: In Ars Magica 5e, you can perma-boost your stats with adequately high magnitude rituals, but as they're quite high level you can plan on taking warping, unless you cast the spell with a Target: Personal. Wanna try tablet casting and pray you don't have to check for a botch? Not to mention the rather high cost in vis per casting. (Still worth doing for intelligence, health, and communication IMO, but not at all cheap. Definitely a long-term project.)
 
Maybe I am just boring, but wishes have limits to what they can achieve. If you wish for something I consider too powerful, the wish will do its best and may fall short.

"Eliminate all current threats to peace" would be met with me asking the player for a brief description of what that would look like. I would use that to decide what the wish uses as its methods and how it goes about them.

The subtler the wish can be, the more liberty I tend to give it.
 
If you get lucky enough to find (or decide to craft) a +5 stat tome, then there's still limits to what you can realistically boost to without wishes in 3.5 (or Pathfinder). Up to +5 in one attribute from leveling, and +6 is possible in an attribute via a magic item. For a total of +16. After that, it requires wishes. Which I'm not sure if those stack with a stat tome. I think Wish can grant an Inherent boost to an attribute, but I think it takes one wish for each +1 inherent boost. Might need six Wishes to raise your inherent boost to +6 if you had used a +5 stat tome due to non-stacking bonuses.
*looks things up*
Yeah, it's an inherent bonus. And limited to a +5, if you cast Wish five times in a row. So I was right about the +16 cap on how much you can boost an attribute from char creation.

Of course, then there's the XP cost of Wish. Speaking of which, that XP cost is why magic crafting wasn't very popular in 3.5 edition. While the ability to craft magic items is powerful, and potentially can ruin the campaign's balance... Few casters are willing to risk deleveling because they crafted magic items.
 
XP cost of Wish? 1e and 2e, it cost you years of life. 5 years in particular. Kept the humans, who were only one of two races (Certain sub-races of Elves could as well) and the most likely to reach 18th Level (Min level for L9 spells), from getting too abusive with the wishes.

Usually, the first thing Any 18th level Magic User did was track down Potions of Longevity, or Elixirs of Youth, or made thier own.
 
this discussion of the "Wish" spell reminds me of a story an old DM told me of one of his old 1/2ed games. Group was spelunking the underdark and had ended up on a mesa between a series of bridges and were surrounded by Succubi. One of the members had a scroll with a wish sell on it and the group was begging him to wish the Succubi away. He refused repeatedly and as an aside to another player, said, "It's times like this i wish i was a bloody elf.

The DM smiles and addresses the group: "You see [Character] shrink in size and gain a viscous red coating along with long pointed ears." turning to the player he says, "The gods are pleased with your wish, you are now a "Bloody Elf"
 
Spring Cleaning 4
Missy was bored. They'd finished cataloging the room where Vicky had found the Ook of Infinite Spells. Missy Grumbled at the stupid name, how stupidly powerful it was, and how Stupid that Vicky had found it. They'd moved on to the last room of the day, before they'd backtrack via one of her tunnels of warped space, and leave. They would probably be back in here tomorrow, and maybe they'd have a bit more fun. Oh, and she'd drawn the straw for guarding the door.

Naurelin had been correct, though. This was the Kiddy section of the closet. Assault, Battery and a very scantily clad young woman with fire red hair, generous bustline, leathern wings from her back, and a pair of ivory horns on her head, had shown up, asking if someone could heal them up. Missy goggled at the stranger, who was cussing and grumbling in French. To her surprise, Assault would say something back, which would cause the woman to groan. The thing that made Missy gape was that the woman was only a couple inches taller than she was.

"Priere," Assault said to the red head, "This is Vista. Vista, this is Priere fille de Robert."

Vista nodded and smiled. "Hello."

The Woman's reaction was not what Vista was expecting. The woman cowered in front of Vista on her knees, alternating between whining "Please don't kill me!" and "I'm not worthy!"

The expression on Vista's face was priceless. He was pretty sure it matched his own croggled expression. "Priere, please. She's a hero, not some deity."

The woman got up, still eyeing Vista cautiously. With a cautious curtsy, she mumbled "Pleased to make your acquaintance." She then proceeded to keep Assault between her and Vista until they left, heading for the exit.

Thus it was that Missy found herself bored and somewhat confused at the door. Again.

"Psst." The sound was like a burbling, leaking steam line, except there was no visible plumbing in the rooms they'd been in.

"Psst!" There was the sound again, much closer. Missy turned towards the sound...

...And found herself staring into the hood of any empty cloak. She inhaled, getting ready to scream like a cheerleader, when a gloved hand covered her mouth. "Sorry, I didn't mean to startle you like that." The voice, even though it was very apologetic, still sounded like a creepy thing trying to be extra creepy.

Missy took one look at her visitor, and sighed. "Of course, It's a cloak. We're in a closet, so of course, there'll be haunted clothing," she groused.

"Not just any cloak, but Cloak!" the seemingly empty garment said, straightening up and trying to look menacing.

For some reason, all Missy could do is giggle, quietly.

Cloak turned it's hood slightly, as if it could hear something. "Whoops, there's the others." A gloved hand reached into the hood, and pulled out a box of donuts from a particularly good Brockton Bay bakery. "Here, this will probably help a bit. Don't worry, things get better from here on out!" Cloak cheerfully waved, and the floated down the hallway at a good clip before disappearing from sight.

- - - - - - - - - -

Dean looked a bit strange as he stared at the door, where Missy was eating a donut from a box of them. His train of thought was interrupted by Dennis, who was trying to get his attention. "Yo, Gallant! Anyone home?"

"Yeah, Dennis, I'm here." He shook his head to clear it. "For a few seconds, I thought there were two Missys at the door." He shrugged. "This place is playing hell with my powers."
 
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🦖Oh dear. It would seem that 🦎 something silly 🦕 this way comes. 🌆
[EDIT] Grammar! >_<
 
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If you haven't guessed, Tiamat's closet is also a mess of dimensional confluences.

And of course, it's a closet. What better place to encounter Cloak? :)

For those of you who have no clue who Priere is...

Priere

Priere, originally known as Prier, is the main character of the Nippon Ichi game La Pucelle: Tactics and has since made a number of appearances in the Disgaea series. In her original game she was a skilled demon hunter, and rather powerful for being human, but appears as an Overlord from an...

*edit* Also, corrected fils d' to fille de. Trying to find it in old northern/Norman French (Lang d'Oil) is a pain, and my books for that are packed away...
(Her last name is entirely made up; When I used her in an ArsMagica campaign, she was the sister of Guillame, also known as William the Bastard/Conqueror/Duke of Normandy/King of England. Both are bastards, but from different mothers. fils d' / fille de gets anglicized to Fitz, so Priere FitzRobert would be the modern equivalent.)

As to why she's with Assault... What do you think that ruckus was going on in Spring Cleaning 3? Assault would be a nightmare to fight, kinetic controllers usually are... There was a fight, and Assault and Battery beat her. Because this is in Apocrypha, it may or may not be canonical. It's mainly meant to be silly. :)
 
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Oh dear...I seem to recall Missy on a sugar rush being something the PRT doesn't want to have happen again.

Sugar rushes are a myth. What happens is that kids tend to eat a lot of sugar at places where they'd be more energetic anyways, ie fairgrounds. Anything beyond that is purely psychosomatic.

Sugar crashes, on the other hand, are all too real. I'm no expert, but my guess is that the body needs a lot of water (and/or other vital fluids) to metabolize all that sugar, and so pulls it from the bloodstream, in the process putting itself into a kind of rest mode while it does so.
 
Sugar rushes are a myth.
Most "sugar rush" anecdotes come from kids eating a lot of chocolate (oh no, so much sugar!) - which by coincidence also contains caffeine, the standard "wake me up" drug of choice for most adults, which contributes to the alertness of the child in question, who having less body mass, is more affected by it. And really, caffeine boosts don't last long, that's why coffee addicts are chugging coffee all day. Once that wears off, the kid is burning through energy on inertia because "I'm already hyped up, let's keep going!" is a thing for kids. So they run at full speed until they run out. If you can get their attention focused a minute into the supposed sugar rush, they'll settle down just fine.
 
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