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Well yes, but they didn't know that unless the enemy told them, I don't think. I doubt Blackhand went around talking about it.
NorseQuest (A Norse Xianxia)
- Thread starter I.F. Ister
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- Original Fantasy Action
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- norse mythology (mythology) original xianxia cultivation western cultivation ask sirihand did your mother tell you anything? discussion pleases yggdrasil farming gloating gets people killed granary management hubris is a coward's word you will die norsemen do not die when they are killed the qm has a bad memory the qm is bad at math viking courtroom drama (legal drama) vikings
Well yes, but they didn't know that unless the enemy told them, I don't think. I doubt Blackhand went around talking about it.
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"I needlebinded my Virthing and Saemd together, so I just have my Frami's Orthsirr to go on until I unravel them. "
That wasn't hard, Halla!
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Also this Foeman incident really makes me want to push for trying out the 'use Ignition to attack faster' Trick. Or even a general, 'attack faster' trick. Or an attack trick that's just really fast.
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Eh, I think Sagaseeker's runes make such a thing redundant. We could spend our orthstirr on better things, like EWCs or MW, and with Sagaseeker's runes slowing down our enemies and speeding us up, such a thing is not much of a priority.
I still think an AoE Ignition explosion would be neat, though. Imagine if we were by ourselves and got surrounded?
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Both our current Ignition attack Tricks are AoE...we literally just hit three Foemen with one Kindle Spinner in the first turn of last fight, for example, while Fireburst-Strike has ignored perfect dodges before due to being AoE.
We also have grenades and a Trick to throw them now.
Depends on the situation...we could be, say, guarding a door or something like that.
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I meant something for if we couldn't actually hit our enemy, or if we were surrounded. I never got the impression that FBS or KS could hit in a 360 degree circle around us - from what I understand, both would hit multiple people if they happened to be near the point of impact, but that's it. If I had to compare, when I imagine FBS or KS explosions, I imagine something like a smaller cone breath attack from the point of impact.
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We could toss a Kindle-Spinner right at our feet and hit everyone around us...but we'd take damage, too. An alternative option is definitely valid for, like, aura damage either explosive or (once we get Forgefire) ongoing, but I do think we need to clear up our Orthstirr situation, get Hamr 7 and Hugr 7, before we go too deep on acquiring extra Tricks. We have just been reminded about Recall, so maybe grabbing that would be a good idea, but otherwise I don't think we're grabbing any new Tricks for a little while.
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On your earlier question about why the enemy is so much worse for Norse cultivation, maybe the causality stuff is the reason? Like how many other cultivation groups that we've seen or heard of have some like the Norns? Maybe that makes Norse cultivation uniquely vulnerable of time/fate shenanigans
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When @Imperial Fister said that he will rebuild our farming and management system, I should have known he meant that we will literally have to rebuild our farm.
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One and Many
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Hm.. I think I was too ambitious.
'Bottom' Layer: 'Protect inhabitants of the farm' -> (Here upon) Owlbear's land, friends, family, felagi find farm's fast.
Secondmost Bottom layer: 'No evil spirits or curses/malicious seidr' -> Scorn-spirits sees not, slighted storms away, shame returned unspoken.
Thirdmost bottom layer: 'The Earth's bounty, tamed to man' -> (where) Soil yoked by Ash for Ashson and Ashdottir. (Soil breaks trees to become a bounty for humans)
'Obvious' top layer: A Saga/Poetry. The plan is to hide the riddle in plain sight. It's not even apparent that this is a riddle at all, as opposed to being a regular runestone. I think I'll use our raid with Folkmarr for this.
Security Layer: Anyone who doesn't understand the full meaning of the entire saga/riddle (implied to be former, but actually the latter) and who tries to tamper with it gets struck with suckiness galore (Nid and death). -> Erase unknowing, become Nidhoggr's feast.
Sagastone
Here where soil is yoked by Ash for Ashson and Ashdottir together, [1]
Upon this stone, scorched Owl tells her saga with her burning Bear.
Owlbear's steel and fire, plunder priest poor, take knight's treasure.
Land, with gold and glory greater than boat's bountiful hull.
Friends, seeress with silver, soulheal wanderer whole with will to wander.
Family, scorn-spirits sees not, slighted storms away, shame returned unspoken. [2]
Felagi meet Owlbear's many kin, brought by Owl's eyes.
Find their ash and lightning wanting before flame and steel.
Farm's glory grand, this tale told, see skald's still at saga's start,
Fast erase unknowing, become Nidhoggr's feast. [3]
Notes:
[1] = Refers to Abjorn's farm, where the soil is yoked by humans for humans (Daughter/sons of ash), 'Ashson and Ashdottir together' also refers to Abjorn and Halla together at the same time.
[2] = This also refers to how Halla got rid of the Scorn pole on her father (family)'s farm, then slighted a troll into storming away, returning Horra's shame (both the scorn pole and the troll) unto him without speaking to him.
[3] = You can see how misleading this might be in the context of the saga.
Owlbear = Halla and Abjorn (The Owl and Bear)
Solutions: Read top to bottom to get the 'protect inhabitants of the farm' layer. It shouldn't be obvious unless you already know.
This one goes Riddle - Raid - Riddle - Raid - Riddle.
I'm not entirely sure if this one will work as intended. Blackhand, would this work?
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You cut off a sentence here.
Otherwise, it looks like a cool idea that you've been working on.
I am slightly concerned that Halla might not be skilled enough to do something so complicated - is a character skill required, QM? Or is this more a matter of time and thought to set up?
You could maybe work a bit on this passage? seems a bit too confused for me. Too much information given in too few words.
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That first one refers to how we paid a seeress with silver to heal Stigr's soul (The Wanderer), so that he has the will to wander again.
I understood that part, I apologize I think I did not explain myself well.
I meant you wrote "Friends" in the plural referring to Stigr instead of "Friend" in the singular. Maybe replace "Friends" with "Wanderer" to refer to Stigr.
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One and Many
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I've made an adjustment.
Can't give up 'Friends' though. That would make it not work.
I think your are severly underestimating the damage that a kill among our family & friends would do.
From an abstract point of view, 6 dead for 1 dead is a shit deal.
But:
How does the 6 dead affect the enemy and how does the 1 dead affect Hall and her friends?
I'd bet the 6 dead are pure resources to the enemy, expensive resources maybe, but still just resources.
The one dead... How could it affect us?
One death in his family weakened Stig and let him be attacked by depression spirits.
If Halla & Abjorn lost a child, could that happen to them? Maybe, though I think they are too fire-y.
How else could they react? By pure, unadulterated "fuck you", like Steinarr would have had we not succeded in convincing him in postponing it to get Horra outlawed.
Who is in reach for Halla & Abjorn to kill to metaphorically shout "fuck you" at?
Horra.
How likely would a mistake that unleashes revenge spiral and outlawing be?
Halla has bloodlust and besides that can just be seen as a normal person with more power...
But look at Abjorns traits from the childmaking posts.
- Stoic Silence
- Would temper his reaction.
- Terror-Bear's Loayalty
- Strictly mechanical it doesn't apply, as the child would already be dead. But Narratively, it could really strengthen his reaction that that he failed to live up to the "you are obligated to take the hit for them" part.
- Irritation
- Can't let things go and the longer he keeps it in, the worse the explosion will be.
- This would probably make it a nightmare to try to keep him calm in that situation.
- I'd bet that the interaction between Stoic Silence and Irritation would be that he can't overcome the issue, at best he can delay it, with a rising dc everytime he doesn't fail, always only temporary putting it on hold until enough time passsed or a new provocation comes and he has to roll again.
- Bloodlust
- Not mechanically related (it is a counter counting up after all), but narratively? Another thing that i can't imagine doesn't make it worse.
Lets imagine for a moment that the attack was designed not knowing that we have the machines as evidence against Horra, and that each child has a 90% chance to survive. (so 4 Hamingja, no reward dice stuff)
at 3 chidren that is
1-(0.9**3)=0.27099... ~27% chance to kill a child and lead to a crisis spiral that would probably kill us. (Or at least destroy our old live and put us on the run from the Steelfather whose village we f*ed up)
Besides the 3 children there are also 9 friends.
Lets assume they have 8 Hamingja (going with QMs guess of 7-8 for the average 20 y.o.), having a 94% chance to escape, and there is only a 1 in 3 chance to start the spiral (because they aren't quite as close it only hits hard but not guaranteed crisis spiral hard)
(1-(0.94**9))*(1/3)=14233506592379452~ 14.2% chance to lead to the spiral
So 1-(0.9**3)+(0.9**3)*(1-(0.94**9))*(1/3)=0.3747622630584461~ 36% chance overall for the crisis spiral of us killing Horra without getting him outlawed first.
So with those assumptions (0.1 chance per child with 1 chance for crisis if a child is killed and 0.05 chance for a friend to get hurt in our home with a 0.333 chance for crisis if at least one friend is killed):
A bit more than 1 in 3 chance to push us into the Horra trap.
And that is just a backup for the main attack on Halla & Abjorn failing.
I.F. Ister
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Because I am very impressed with this write up, I shall simply highlight this line and say nothing more.
Cool! That's a big one so I'll toss you a pair of dice.
Love to see it! A reward dice for each!
Love to see your art! Very pretty work.
3 reward dice!
That's just kinda how the Norse were. Ivar the Boneless was named such because of a birth defect. There's a random guy in the sagas with the kenning of 'Slowdriver'.
'I despise Steelfathers, their cowardice knows no limits. My tongue went untamed around them. I imagine that a group as full of themselves as the Jomsvikingar would take that rather poorly. Shame I wasn't able to scar them all.'
'Eh, let's see.... Well, women are generally daughters of elm, not of ash. You're something of an outlier there. It works for this, as you're referring to yourself, but it is something to keep in mind. Other than that, it looks good to me. I can't help but think that I'm forgetting something, though...'
Character skill matters for time (more dice means quicker progress), but even a novice can make something profound.
0~0~0
Anyways, I'm gonna close the 'vote' here in an hour, so if you've got dice and there's still people open, go ahead and use it!
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'Had the Steelfathers ever attempted to kill you before you died at their hands?'
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Didn't the main attack say that they were a distraction?
Well.. exact wording is important..
..Hmm, I better come back and see if I can trim away anything which might lead to.. undesirable effects.
"Hey Blackhand? how many children did you have? and were could we find them or their families if we wanted?"
We could try to find Halla kin outside the Valley, they could become valuable allies and maybe some of her cousins may have inherited some informations from Hallr.
We could try to find Halla kin outside the Valley, they could become valuable allies and maybe some of her cousins may have inherited some informations from Hallr.
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CedeTheBees
Probably high right now
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Would it be safe to invoke Nidhoggr when we don't know for sure it's not the Enemy?
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Also, are there such things as negative kennings? Like, can you get one for being especially weak-willed/cowardly/etc., or would it just be nid?
Huh... so with just a back-up - a back-up of a throwaway attempt to kill us, where the Enemy barely tried, it still had the power to kill our friends and family? Or am I misreading what it and overestimating the Enemy?
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WhoTheHeckity
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How's the homestead looking now? I'm not sure if the post for it is totally up-to-date.
Kinda toasty, I imagine.