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I would like to point out that, iirc, IF said something to the effect of the enemy taking the disclosure test reins and making it as difficult as it can, so even if it has an upper limit, it's still skewing things in its favor heavily.
 
I would like to point out that, iirc, IF said something to the effect of the enemy taking the disclosure test reins and making it as difficult as it can, so even if it has an upper limit, it's still skewing things in its favor heavily.

Sure, it'll absolutely do that as best it can, but we know what those limits are and the current vote options are way outside them, and we haven't even done actual Disclosure.
 
I mean if the scaling continues like that then when we Disclose for real we can expect mass Dragon Awakenings literally everywhere or something.
 
I mean if the scaling continues like that then when we Disclose for real we can expect mass Dragon Awakenings literally everywhere or something.

Which is a large part of why I don't think this can actually be tied to our interactions with Abjorn in-character. Or not as the primary reason for it, anyway. If the Enemy was accumulating 10,000 or more tiny bits of influence like that one and Abjorn's was the last, maybe.

Which follows logically with it being somewhere far away. What's occurring is not really about us, or it's not yet anyway.
 
[X] A Witch-King seeks his sword once more in Valland

my brain conjured up the mental image of malekith getting isekaid into xianxia land and that is now my headcanon for who the witch king is.
 
@Imperial Fister, for the purposes of the vote here, would you mind telling us straight up:
- With the three baddies here, is it basically an "equally scary and dangerous in different ways" kinda dealie?
- Furthermore, do any of the other two apart from Fafnir have abilities which might prove problematic for us passing down Charred Soul if they kill us?
Yep.

Being eaten by a Steelgiant wouldn't be a very good situation and a witch-king could deliver some nasty curses if he so desired.
Also I suspect Beowulf is also our ancestor given our close connection to Gotland.
Beowulf was a Geat, not a Gute
 
I certainly do hope that--given how we apparently invoked a calamity down the line--that we'll at least be able to cheat passing info over to Abjorn through one way or another, otherwise the scales are not balanced at all.
 
I don't think that, at least in-universe, that's what's going on. Like, that doesn't actually make sense, the scales are completely out of synch in a way that just doesn't work or follow any actual logic. I agree that this is largely the motivation OOC, but that doesn't mean there's an IC causal link between the two, or at least not one where us vaguely inviting Abjorn to engage in Odr cultivation is the actual source of these problems. The final nail out of hundreds that allowed it, perhaps, but not the primary thing involved.

Like, what causes things OOC and what causes them IC are not always the same and I very much think that this is an example of such a disconnect and using it to infer anything about the Enemy and its capabilities is thus deeply wrong and misleading.
I mean, it was explicitly stated as fate 'balancing things out'. its not the work of the enemy, but its still related
 
Halla (Caster) Servant Sheet (mythfan12)
Class: Caster
True Name: Halla Lifegiver
Parameters

Strength: C
Endurance: B
Agility: A
Mana: A+
Luck: A
NP: B+

Class Skills

Hallamal(A)- An unusual expansion of Territory Creation, allows Caster to create a "Home" conductive to creating items and protecting her and her charges.

Item Creation(B+)- Caster is able to create a variety of arms and armor of Wonderous quality, if given proper material and time, can make up to a B rank Noble Phantasm item.

Personal Skill

Seidr(B)- Caster has access to a variety of spells known as Seidr, while most require time to bring about, Caster is skilled in healing and Spiritual Combat.

Born of Fire(B)- While not as powerful as in her Lancer form, Caster nonetheless has access to a wide range of flame based spells.
Noble Phantasm

Cindersoot Owl: Soulborn Familiar(B)- Caster's soul, taken the form of her Fylgja. A high-grade Familiar on par with a Phantasmal Beast, it can be used as a scout or secondary combatant. Care must be taken as the destruction of the Familiar would lead to Caster's Spiritual Core being destroyed.

Blackhand: Written World of a Charred Soul(A)- A Reality Marble made from the landscape of Caster's soul. Taking the shape of her home and surrounding land, the Mana density of the Reality Marble allows Caster more freedom to use her fire spells as well as a boost to her parameters as she is strengthen by the well of Odr.

Tried my hand at a Caster Servant sheet for Halla
 
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I certainly do hope that--given how we apparently invoked a calamity down the line--that we'll at least be able to cheat passing info over to Abjorn through one way or another, otherwise the scales are not balanced at all.

Even if we can, that doesn't feel like the scales are actually that balanced, though we'll see. Though, actually, we may have figured out a safe Disclosure method for anyone we trust absolutely.

I mean, it was explicitly stated as fate 'balancing things out'. its not the work of the enemy, but its still related

I mean, that was not stated in-character. My point is not that this isn't what's going on OOC, it's that it probably isn't the whole story in-universe.

@Imperial Fister a few important questions:

1. Do we, in fact need to spend social actions or research to teach/inform Abjorn of this stuff or is it covered?
2. Is Disclosure just covered for Abjorn specifically due to all this, or what?
3. Does telling someone something in our soulscape actually avoid the risks of Disclosure since, per Blackhand, the Enemy can't see there? I'm willing to spend a Reward Die on an answer to this.
4. Completely different subject, but Shard pointed out on Discord that Emberguard should probably get Orthstirr for the Hooknails fight. It did save our life in that fight. Does it gain Orthstirr?
 
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1. Do we, in fact need to spend social actions or research to teach/inform Abjorn of this stuff or is it covered?
The initial initiation into odr cultivation will need to be a proper action, but the rest is no big deal
2. Is Disclosure just covered for Abjorn pecifically due to all this, or what?
You can Disclose to Abjorn, but there will be a challenge at some point if you do decide to Disclose to him—not necessarily immediately following his disclosure, either
3. Does telling someone something in our soulscape actually avoid the risks of Disclosure since, per Blackhand, the Enemy can't see there? I'm willing to spend a Reward Die on an answer to this.
Can't say
4. Completely different subject, but Shard pointed out on Discord that Emberguard should probably get Orthstirr for the Hooknails fight. It did save our life in that fight. Does it gain Orthstirr?
Yeah, sure, 15 sounds about right
 
The initial initiation into odr cultivation will need to be a proper action, but the rest is no big deal

That seems fair, yeah.

You can Disclose to Abjorn, but there will be a challenge at some point if you do decide to Disclose to him—not necessarily immediately following his disclosure, either

Can't say

Well that's unfortunate. The logic of Disclosure being doable in our soulscape seems sound, but we can't risk it. Damn.

Yeah, sure, 15 sounds about right

Cool, added to the sheet.
 
hmm, could the dragon sized issue be the price paid for the book? It seems like the only thing we could have done with a price this large.
 
I kinda feel it's probably just a narrative thing? We got a good result, our husband is going to join us on our path instead of standing in our way and limiting us. So something bad is happening elsewhere.

This is just conjecture from the 'tails is bad then good, heads was good then bad'.

If tails had won, Abjorn might have refused our cagey answers and escalated things, making stuff bad in the short term in our household, but maybe good things would happen in the world we could take advantage of.
 
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