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[X] Plan For The Love Of Money
May The Invisible Hand Be With You - (Star Wars CK2-Style Quest)
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I'm kinda surprised I'm the only one who wants to activate the Clone Underground Railroad. Don't get me wrong, I didn't want to at first. Direct benefits aren't that enticing. But here's the deal.
Where do we get the best rewards? Interludes.
How are we gonna get those Treasury Records? Probably an Interlude where we have Kal Skirata's gratitude and trust.
We can do that this turn. Toss Ciaran's mammoth +42 bonus on the Resignation Program, take off Ventress because that is not a risk I'm willing to take, buy both Hideaways, then sit back and watch the +77 bonus turn into the super crit to end all super crits. This is a massive oversight.
(Edit: Okay this is actually in Publicola's plan because I spaced out, but needs reallocation of bonuses. We can do Shatterpoint next turn. This is now)
Where do we get the best rewards? Interludes.
How are we gonna get those Treasury Records? Probably an Interlude where we have Kal Skirata's gratitude and trust.
We can do that this turn. Toss Ciaran's mammoth +42 bonus on the Resignation Program, take off Ventress because that is not a risk I'm willing to take, buy both Hideaways, then sit back and watch the +77 bonus turn into the super crit to end all super crits. This is a massive oversight.
(Edit: Okay this is actually in Publicola's plan because I spaced out, but needs reallocation of bonuses. We can do Shatterpoint next turn. This is now)
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...That is a very good point, and made me seriously reconsider my Stewardship choice. At the same time, I'm pretty sure we won't be finishing off the IGBC this turn -- we're only 'investigating' Rush Clovis this round, and unless we score a major crit, we'll probably need to use that info in a separate action next turn. I'd prefer to hold off on our IGBC plans until we can do it in one fell swoop.
Also, Ord Mantell gives us a site to start recruiting Gurlanin, in case we don't score a major crit for the Qiilura action. The Gurlanin don't like offworlders owning land on their planet. Unless they're very pleased with us, chances are we'll need to base the 'recruitment center' out of its closest neighbor. Which happens to be a major trade hub formerly controlled by the Black Sun...
You fiend!I expect the Chu'unthor will require some investment to develop, but no more than any other base we currently own & operate. Specifically, I hope to use the ship as a mobile Force-research station -- for our archaeology teams, for our Abyss Agents, for any other Force factions or Force users we pick up along the way, and for our work on any of the dozen Force-related research paths we could be taken for our Learning actions.
Basically I see it as a younger sibling of the Oracle -- we got the Lucrehulk specifically as an Intrigue-heavy "mobile listening post", and while it's become a lot more, that was its role. The Chu'unthor could be our Lore/Learning base, dedicated to letting us develop our Force strengths in the build-up to confronting Palpatine.
...Dammit that's a good point. OTOH, that database would be even more useful if we had a Jedi library & research archives to store it in, as well as a code-breaker device in case there's any encrypted data that isn't available for public consumption....
Basically, I agree that Obrai-Skai is a major priority, but one that I'd prefer to hold off until until next turn.
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[X] Plan One For The Money
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I'd back that up actually. The main draw seems to be a base to get the Gurlanin in case we don't super duper impress them this turn. But we might. For that reason, I'd say we hold off on consolidating what we have until we know if that big draw would be redundant anyways. If we solve the Gurlanin problem and don't have a way to recruit them, then we could look into it. But it would be a waste to get this fancy base for them, only for them to decide we're cool enough to hang with them on their own planet while Palpatine steals all the money.
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@Publicola, you may want to take note of this.
...Okay, this calls for QM intervention.
My take on things is that:
- At the very least, Kal Skirata + Delta Squad + Ordo already know that Ventress is an ally of ours.
- It's quite likely that Omega Squad + Null ARCs + Walon Vau have been told about Ventress (while Kal was telling them about the inhibitor chips).
- None of these "members of the Republic army" have spread the news, caused a scandal, or let the cat out of the bag otherwise.
- Asajj Ventress's role would be going planet-to-planet setting up safehouses for future clone commandos
- Asajj's support might require her to go to Coruscant to meet with Kal, to set up the Coruscant end of that network.
- Asajj's support would not require her to reveal her presence or identity to any clone commandos that haven't been 'read in'.
- Asajj's identity would only be revealed if we had a literal crit-fail. Which wouldn't happen because the action is a guaranteed success.
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Yup, just wanted to make it a separate post so Dr. Snark can give feedback.
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[X] Plan For The Love Of Money
Also a good point. My reasons for 'Eclipse':
- Money. Did I mention I like money? Ord Mantell is the trade hub & banking center for the northern Mid Rim. It lies directly between Coruscant and Muunilist, which means it's also a major meeting point for both parties. And at the top of the pyramid is a vacuum. Because we utterly eradicated the Black Sun. We don't have any business assets on the system, but this would definitely be a major source of ROI and a major center for extending our economic influence into the Mid Rim.
- Gurlanin. Yeah, I know, there's a chance they might let us settle on the planet if we roll a crit. However, that's only a chance, and Gurlanin agents are so absurdly useful that I'd prefer to get started on recruiting them ASAP. I found it oddly ironic when Killerflood talked about his 'financial conservatism', as though I weren't the same way. I like having back-ups, and making sure all our bases are covered. That's why I made sure no action had less than a 95% chance of success -- I could have doubled-down on hero support to make a single crit more likely (as @Stealthy is suggesting), but I'd prefer to make sure we don't miss anything.
- Money, pt. 2. Did I mention Af'El yet? Because that was also a Black Sun system, that has a natural monopoly on one critical component for making durasteel. AKA, the thing that everything is made out of. You know what else? The native population are such rubes, they're selling that precious meleenium in exchange for fish! I wish I were joking. As far as massive unexploited markets go, this one's a doozy.
- Defel. ...I can't believe I hadn't noticed this before. That native population? They're officially called 'Defel', though they're better known as 'wraiths'. Their distinctive trait? The ability to absorb all light, making them appear to be living, moving shadows. Yeah, creepy. Also terrifyingly effective assassins, for sneaking around in the middle of the night....
So yeah, I can see why 'Exploiting the Eclipse' is considered a less urgent option. And it is one I'm willing to change. All the same -- that's a lot of goodies to be giving up.
Dang it, you make another good argument. Still, my take on the Snake Eater ending is that Dr. Snark doesn't want us to gain access to those financial records too soon -- given how ludicrously useful they'd be, that will be a long-term project. Even if we score a massive super-crit, I'm pretty sure that financial access would not be included in the rewards. No doubt the rewards would be insanely awesome... but not quite that level of awesome. Not until we really work for it.
Again, I may be wrong, which is why I'd really like @Dr. Snark to chip in and clarify.
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Dr. Snark
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So far the only people who know that Asajj is alive period outside of the Watchers are Kal, the Nulls, and the Deltas, though the Omegas would be quickly informed of the situation at hand if she ever participated in an op with them.
Forming the network itself would require considerable amounts of travel to various destinations and thoroughly confirming the clandestine nature of these safehouses as well as determining how to ensure that the nature of these locations is kept secret but still spread to the right people. If all of that makes any sense.
Odds are that she'd be assisted by one or more of the Nulls due to the nature of the work.
@Stealthy, does this address your concerns?
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so if we don't take the taris option there still a large chance to end up as governor right?
also ten more page's until 200 !
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The Dragon
"Ah, grandpa, what a surprise! Please, come inside." said Ciaran, welcoming Silas into her lavish quarters. "What can I do for you?"
"I came to tell you about the Pantora thing. I think it went pretty well." said Silas as he walked into the multi-room complex. "But first, I've been in space for quite some time, and I really need to use the bathroom."
"Second room on the left down the hall." said Ciaran with a small smirk. It always impressed her how childish her grandfather could be for an eighty-year-old scoundrel. She looked around the corner to make sure he had found the bathroom without any issues, only to see his standing in front of the first door on the left down the hall, which happened to be her own room. "Next door down." she corrected.
Silas didn't acknowledge her however. "Ciaran, what is this?" Confused, Ciaran walked down the hall to look into her personal quarters.
"Oh, that's my credits." said Ciaran, gesturing to the mattress that was lifted several feet off the floor atop a pile of credits. "You always said to keep your money somewhere safe, like in your boot or under your mattress. And once the Abyss Watchers took off, I don't have shoes big enough for all it."
Silas tried to respond several times before finding his words. "Ciaran, that was advice for when you're pinching every credit just to get by, or advice to keep a small amount on hand in case of emergencies. This…" he said, gesturing to her bed. "…is ridiculous."
"I've always found it rather comfortable." mumbled Ciaran.
"It's not a matter of how comfortable it is! This much money needs to be in a bank. Not only is it safer for the small fortune you seem to have, but you'd be earning interest on it as well. That's what you do when you have a lot of credits." said Silas. "Or so Larana tells me."
"Why should I trust a bank? I think I'm more trustworthy than them." pouted Ciaran. Silas gave her a sidelong glance. "Ugh, fine. I'll go to the bank tomorrow. So how was Pantora?"
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"I'd like to open an account." The bank teller looked up as someone addressed him. He blinked a few times in disbelief when he saw the Lady Ciaran standing in front of him. Then he looked behind her and his jaw dropped at the sight of the literal mountain of credits piled behind her. A hand waved in front of his face brought him back to the world at large. "Excuse me? I said I'd like to open an account."
"Ah. Uh, yes, of course." He said, before taking another look around her to the absurd amount of money heaped behind her. "Is… all of that going to be deposited?"
"Yes, it is." Said Lady Ciaran, drawing his attention squarely back to her and fixing it there with her tone alone. And had her eyes been uncovered, he would have put money on being the subject of a withering glare. "Will that be a problem?"
"Of-of course not!" he said, slightly louder than he had intended as he scrambled to get the proper forms. "Just wait one moment while I fill out this paperwork."
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Ciaran sighed as she lay on her perfectly flat mattress staring at the ceiling. She had known that removing the credits would make the bed less comfortable. She couldn't even get to sleep. At least she had gotten a free toaster out of the deal.
AN: More Blazing Chains next, but this was too good to not write.
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oh god i can't stop laughing, I can see her doing that too.
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Fact: Ciaran secretly kept a few credits under the mattress anyway. Non-canon, +10.
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Averts my sense of diaster, but not entirely comfortable with it. I mean, t's not a bad way to ease Ventress back in to the world, but it's delicate. We convinced Skirata to let us take Ventress, but this is asking him to entrust the lives of his men to her. The crit would help get minds changed, of course, but it's kinda insensitive. If he didn't have the treasury records, this would be fine (though, then we probably wouldn't be taking the action to begin with sooooooo).
More than that, I really want the Supercrit that Ciaran's bonus would grant us. Personal Attention at this point isn't about guaranteeing the success, and at this point it's beyond getting the crit. It's flat out demanding it. Perhaps Snark wants to keep the records out of our hands, to which we respond by rolling a 150.
I would prefer throwing Ventress with Grievous against Clovis, for lack of options. Hell, maybe if we put her on Onderon with Thrawn she'll go off and kill Sev'rance Tann, though that'd be pretty blatantly public. Only other option is to send her home to Dathomir to get a crit and find your ship, as well as whatever else EU authors have crammed onto that planet.
Small note that's kinda coming to me is that I'd kinda prefer Fallanasi Techniques to Matukai. I think we're best suited by being undetectable. Buried Presence only works on Force Sense. But it's pretty minor especially as we'll (probably) just do the other school next turn unless some bizarrely good Lore action posts up.
@Dr. Snark, did you see my question earlier (about whether Treasury access would be a potential reward for a super-crit with Kal Skirata this turn)?
A few pointers for @Killerflood:
Unfortunately, 'Myrkr' is a Learning action (not Lore). So Asajj would only add +6.
Frankly, I like the idea of assigning her to the Dathomir expedition -- a good opportunity to return 'home', to interact with non-Nightsisters, and to boost our chances of gaining that Chu'unthor. If I do remove Asajj from the safehouses action, that'd be where I assign her.
Actually, Hero Actions use the full stats, not half:
So Cheriss would give +20, while PR-1 would give +16.
In addition, you forgot to account for default bonuses, which do apply for Hero actions. For Cheriss, that'd be either +15 or +20 (depending on if 'medical databases' apply), while for PR-1, that'd add +10. Hope that helps.
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Iiiiii...can't guarantee that. Part of the reason that Kal's withholding access is for the honest reason that he does not want the shit he did to be found. And the best way to guarantee that it's not located is for less people to be fucking around in the Treasury.
If that makes sense.