The danger regarding dissent among the Jedi I'd be concerned would be Knights thinking that the Order aren't doing enough, although thankfully I don't think there's any Jedi alive who could pull a Revan and sweep an entire generation of Knights and Masters into going to war, there's simply no Jedi with the charisma for it as far as I'm aware.

I don't think we have much to worry about regarding the Jedi doing something rash, at least until Sidious is revealed.
 
The danger regarding dissent among the Jedi I'd be concerned would be Knights thinking that the Order aren't doing enough, although thankfully I don't think there's any Jedi alive who could pull a Revan and sweep an entire generation of Knights and Masters into going to war, there's simply no Jedi with the charisma for it as far as I'm aware.

I don't think we have much to worry about regarding the Jedi doing something rash, at least until Sidious is revealed.
i think the only jedi/sith that had the charisma for it after revan was luke.
dude became the biggest of badass's
 
Why would Barriss do the whole plot? The Jedi aren't as involved in the war.
Haven't we already changed things, though? Didn't Bariss go all mad bomber because she went nuts from being on the front lines of the war. And in this timeline we got the Jedi to reconsider that? Or am I completely misremembering?
Except Bariss Offee bombed the Temple in protest of the Jedi's increasing militarization. Remember how that didn't happen due to our influence?
... Huh. Never seen a triple "Ninja'd" before.

So yes, clearly, the immediate impetus for the canon bombing is no longer present. OTOH, Barriss Offee wasn't exactly thinking clearly -- something was clearly rotten in the state of Denmark given how she explained herself -- so she might be motivated to do something similar for a similar reason. Perhaps she's still worried about Jedi militarism, even if fewer Jedi are generals here than in canon. Or she might be worried that the Jedi Order has aligned itself totally with the corruption of the Senate -- Offee's home system is pretty far out in the Outer Rim, so her stated concern over 'militarism' might be cover for believing that the Separatist cause is actually right, that the Outer Rim has a right to self-government, and that the war itself is unjust.

Totally hypothetical, but it depends on how Dr. Snark choses to apply canon.

Even if it's not Barriss Offee, it might be someone else -- Palpatine was pulling many strings and causing a good deal of chaos and confusion within the Jedi Order, so if there's another Jedi who might pull off a similar stunt, he'd probably find out who and play them like a fiddle.

I mean, we are talking about a Sith Lord who specializes in manipulating Jedi on a grand scale....
 
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As for Barriss, here's an excerpt from the plot summary of Star Wars: A New Droid Army, which the good doctor has confirmed will be integrated in some capacity.
Anakin pursues him to the underlevels. There, he meets fellow Padawan Barriss Offee, whose troops have been overrun by C-B3 cortosis battle droids.
Now I suggested it because cortosis battle droid hit all the right spots for me, but she's canonically there, fighting the good fight and getting her ass handed to her. So we might have a chance to influence her.

She's the type of person who'd bomb the temple because she disagrees with what the Jedi are doing. And we've had plenty of discussion about how the Jedi aren't super great. We drop some hints about how the Jedi are super overhyped, and boom. Events set in motion.
 
As for Barriss, here's an excerpt from the plot summary of Star Wars: A New Droid Army, which the good doctor has confirmed will be integrated in some capacity. Now I suggested it because cortosis battle droid hit all the right spots for me, but she's canonically there, fighting the good fight and getting her ass handed to her. So we might have a chance to influence her.

She's the type of person who'd bomb the temple because she disagrees with what the Jedi are doing. And we've had plenty of discussion about how the Jedi aren't super great. We drop some hints about how the Jedi are super overhyped, and boom. Events set in motion.

I would recommend steering her away from the Jedi in a fashion that doesn't involve terrorism and murder. Like, just leaving. Or we could always kidnap her so we can monologue at her.

... For a criminal mastermind there's been a distinct lack of taking captives we can evil-, I mean, morally grey-ly monologue at. At some point in this quest someone better spend the night locked in our hovercars' trunk. What kind of crime boss are we if that never happens? It's practically required.
 
Behold what happens when I let my thoughts run wild. I know it's not tidy and I'm probably missing some things, but right now I'm too lazy to do anything. Enjoy:

Star Wars: Eyes of the Abyss Achievements

Mask of Pain
Recruit Xruk

Humble Beginnings
Establish your first front business

Class Climber
Convince everyone you're a member of Coruscant High Society

Silver Service
Recruit PR-1

Entrepreneur
Make your first investment

Manuel Both-Hanz
Recruit Gulan Terrek

Casual Curiosity
Gain the Interest of Damask Holdings

Emerald Dream
Make a good First Impression on Naboo

Naboo System Shuffle
Steal from the Trade Federation, Naboo and Darth Sidious during the Invasion without being detected

Godfather
Recruit Borvo the Hutt

Roger, Roger
Recruit OOM-9

Disturbance
Palpatine is Confused

Can't Touch This
Keep Nute Gunray out of Jail

Queen of Hearts
Befriende Padme Amidala

Kali
Ruin then Restore Naboo

I Fought the Law and the Law Lost
Subvert C-SEC

Rags to Riches
Become as wealthy as you claim to be

I Spy With My Big Eye
Purchase The Oracle

Just Business
Found a PMC

The Fourth Horseman
Recruit The Silencer

Divergence
Alter Star Wars Canon

Destiny Defeated
Save General Grievous

Honest Scoundrel
Recruit Silas Cata

Captain of the Seven Voids
Recruit Tyro Torwin

Doctor Professor Explosion
Recruit Var Zheen

Deepthroat
Expose the Truth about the Huk War

The Protagonists
Meet Obi-Wan and Anakin

Not as Planned
Palpatine is Utterly Confused

Lost Twentieth
Meet Count Dooku

Darth Sensible
Unlock Darth Vectivus' Holocron

Double Trouble
Discover the Clone Army before the Jedi without anyone noticing

Invisible Hand
Save the Outbound Flight

Tomb Raider
Collect Force Relics

Corporate Rule
Found a Megacorporation

By The Skin of Your Teeth
Barely Survive an Assassination

Underdog
Make Team Coruscant Not Suck

Grandpa Strikes Back
Annihilate The Conspiracy In a Single Turn

Lazarus
Rise from near-death stronger than before

Blessing from Beyond
Darth Plaguise is Watching

Rewriting History
Kalee Victory in the Second Huk War

Noble Teachings
Learn Lightsaber Combat from Count Dooku

Sketches of The Plan
Discover the link between Damask and Kamino

Secession in Progress
Discover the CIS

Shard of Genius
Recruit Cheriss Sair

Zann Plan
Influence the Galactic Senate

It Was Behind The Sofa
Reveal the Clone Army to the Jedi

Blushing Beard
Embarrass Obi-Wan

Third Way
Help Found the CNS

Hot Gold
Gain a Lava Crystal

Sparring Partner
Meet Asajj Ventress

Omega Protocol
Defeat Omega, Save Darra

Pointless Picture
Rewrite Attack of The Clones

Mother of the Sun
Save Shimi Skywalker

History in Motion
Attend the Founding of the CIS

Saved by Adaption
Prevent the deaths of Zam and Jango Fett

Different Path
Side with the CNS

No Laws, No Borders
Work with both the CIS and the Republic

Nightingale
Become a Humanitarian

From a Certain Point of View
Deceive The Jedi High Council

Irons Hands of Light
Recruit Darra Thel-Tanis

True Sanctuary
Reform the CNS

Technically Innocent
Nullify the Sith Blackmail

The Great Tank Robbery
Steal a Decimator without alerting the Republic and CIS

The First Horseman
Recruit Thrawn

Forsaken
Complete Operation RESI

Crystal Heart
Learn Cherris' Secret

This is Mine
Become the De-facto Leader of the CNS

Morality
Lose Darra Thel-Tanis

King Krayt
Build a Decimator Factory

Shades of Grey
Convince Anakin Skywalker to Lie to the Jedi Council

Hunter of Hunters
Meet Jango Fett

Death Watched
Kill Pre Vizsla

The Second Horseman
Recruit General Grievous

Kicked Upstairs
Neutralise Duchess Satine without violence

Turning Point
Complete Operation Skyfall

Badass Normals
Meet Skirata, Ordo and Delta Squad

Sith Exile
Recruit Asajj Ventress

Past Refined
Found the Mandalorian Guardians

Bright Eclipse
Annihilate the Black Sun Syndicate

Nemesis
Meet Albert Wesker

Queen of Crime
Partnership with the Hutt Council

Corporate Client
Partnership with Raith Sienar

Tales from the Dark Side
Introduce Anakin Skywalker to Sith Lore

Bailing Bail
Protect Senator Organa

War, What War?
Remove all Income Penalties from the Clone Wars

We Have The Technology
Genetically Modify a Hero

Return of the King
Jango Fett Becomes Mand'alor The Resurgent

The Illusive Man
Rescue Seti Ashgad

Homo Superior
Find Albert Wesker and his background

Great Mother
Ally with the Nightsisters

The Not-So-Menacing Phantom
Recruit Darth Vectivus

Secret Service
Install Armed Agents in the Senate Building

Statement: I'm Back Meatbags
Retrieve HK-47

Family First
Recruit Your Cousins

Peacemaker
Organise a Ceasefire and Peace Conference

Saint
Become Revered Across the Galaxy

Trials of Malachor
Earn the Title of Darth Traya

Legacy of Plaguise
Discover the origins of Ciaran's Luck

No Remorse, No Regret
Silencer Learns from and then Betrays the Sun Guard

Order 66
Discover the Purpose of the Control Chips

I Know Where You Live
Discover Darth Sidious' Identity

Gods and Monsters
Complete Operation Snake Eater
 
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Behold what happens when I let my thoughts run wild. I know it's not tidy and I'm probably missing some things, but right now I'm too lazy to do anything. Enjoy:

Star Wars: Eyes of the Abyss Achievements

Mask of Pain
Recruit Xruk

Humble Beginnings
Establish your first front business

Class Climber
Convince everyone you're a member of Coruscant High Society

Silver Service
Recruit PR-1

Entrepreneur
Make your first investment

Manuel Both-Hanz
Recruit Gulan Terrek

Casual Curiosity
Gain the Interest of Damask Holdings

Emerald Dream
Make a good First Impression on Naboo

Naboo System Shuffle
Steal from the Trade Federation, Naboo and Darth Sidious during the Invasion without being detected

Godfather
Recruit Borvo the Hutt

Roger, Roger
Recruit OOM-9

Disturbance
Palpatine is Confused

Can't Touch This
Keep Nute Gunray out of Jail

Queen of Hearts
Befriende Padme Amidala

Kali
Ruin then Restore Naboo

I Fought the Law and the Law Lost
Subvert C-SEC

Rags to Riches
Become as wealthy as you claim to be

I Spy With My Big Eye
Purchase The Oracle

Just Business
Found a PMC

The Fourth Horseman
Recruit The Silencer

Divergence
Alter Star Wars Canon

Destiny Defeated
Save General Grievous

Honest Scoundrel
Recruit Silas Cata

Captain of the Seven Voids
Recruit Tyro Torwin

Doctor Professor Explosion
Recruit Var Zheen

Deepthroat
Expose the Truth about the Huk War

The Protagonists
Meet Obi-Wan and Anakin

Not as Planned
Palpatine is Utterly Confused

Lost Twentieth
Meet Count Dooku

Darth Sensible
Unlock Darth Vectivus' Holocron

Double Trouble
Discover the Clone Army before the Jedi without anyone noticing

Invisible Hand
Save the Outbound Flight

Tomb Raider
Collect Force Relics

Corporate Rule
Found a Megacorporation

By The Skin of Your Teeth
Barely Survive an Assassination

Underdog
Make Team Coruscant Not Suck

Grandpa Strikes Back
Annihilate The Conspiracy In a Single Turn

Lazarus
Rise from near-death stronger than before

Blessing from Beyond
Darth Plaguise is Watching

Rewriting History
Kalee Victory in the Second Huk War

Noble Teachings
Learn Lightsaber Combat from Count Dooku

Sketches of The Plan
Discover the link between Damask and Kamino

Secession in Progress
Discover the CIS

Shard of Genius
Recruit Cheriss Sair

Zann Plan
Influence the Galactic Senate

It Was Behind The Sofa
Reveal the Clone Army to the Jedi

Blushing Beard
Embarrass Obi-Wan

Third Way
Help Found the CNS

Hot Gold
Gain a Lava Crystal

Sparring Partner
Meet Asajj Ventress

Omega Protocol
Defeat Omega, Save Darra

Pointless Picture
Rewrite Attack of The Clones

Mother of the Sun
Save Shimi Skywalker

History in Motion
Attend the Founding of the CIS

Saved by Adaption
Prevent the deaths of Zam and Jango Fett

Different Path
Side with the CNS

No Laws, No Borders
Work with both the CIS and the Republic

Nightingale
Become a Humanitarian

From a Certain Point of View
Deceive The Jedi High Council

Irons Hands of Light
Recruit Darra Thel-Tanis

True Sanctuary
Reform the CNS

Technically Innocent
Nullify the Sith Blackmail

The Great Tank Robbery
Steal a Decimator without alerting the Republic and CIS

The First Horseman
Recruit Thrawn

Forsaken
Complete Operation RESI

Crystal Heart
Learn Cherris' Secret

This is Mine
Become the De-facto Leader of the CNS

Morality
Lose Darra Thel-Tanis

King Krayt
Build a Decimator Factory

Shades of Grey
Convince Anakin Skywalker to Lie to the Jedi Council

Hunter of Hunters
Meet Jango Fett

Death Watched
Kill Pre Vizsla

The Second Horseman
Recruit General Grievous

Kicked Upstairs
Neutralise Duchess Satine without violence

Turning Point
Complete Operation Skyfall

Badass Normals
Meet Skirata, Ordo and Delta Squad

Sith Exile
Recruit Asajj Ventress

Past Refined
Found the Mandalorian Guardians

Bright Eclipse
Annihilate the Black Sun Syndicate

Nemesis
Meet Albert Wesker

Queen of Crime
Partnership with the Hutt Council

Corporate Client
Partnership with Raith Sienar

Tales from the Dark Side
Introduce Anakin Skywalker to Sith Lore

Bailing Bail
Protect Senator Organa

War, What War?
Remove all Income Penalties from the Clone Wars

We Have The Technology
Genetically Modify a Hero

Return of the King
Jango Fett Becomes Mand'alor The Resurgent

The Illusive Man
Rescue Seti Ashgad

Homo Superior
Find Albert Wesker and his background

Great Mother
Ally with the Nightsisters

The Not-So-Menacing Phantom
Recruit Darth Vectivus

Secret Service
Install Armed Agents in the Senate Building

Statement: I'm Back Meatbags
Retrieve HK-47

Family First
Recruit Your Cousins

Peacemaker
Organise a Ceasefire and Peace Conference

Saint
Become Revered Across the Galaxy

Trials of Malachor
Earn the Title of Darth Traya

Legacy of Plaguise
Discover the origins of Ciaran's Luck

No Remorse, No Regret
Silencer Learns from and then Betrays the Sun Guard

Order 66
Discover the Purpose of the Control Chips

I Know Where You Live
Discover Darth Sidious' Identity
we need to find the 3rd horsemen
complete the set. i guess we already have him though(hk-47)
 
we need to find the 3rd horsemen
complete the set. i guess we already have him though(hk-47)
I was guessing Jango myself.

Behold what happens when I let my thoughts run wild. I know it's not tidy and I'm probably missing some things, but right now I'm too lazy to do anything. Enjoy:

Star Wars: Eyes of the Abyss Achievements

Mask of Pain
Recruit Xruk

Humble Beginnings
Establish your first front business

Class Climber
Convince everyone you're a member of Coruscant High Society

Silver Service
Recruit PR-1

Entrepreneur
Make your first investment

Manuel Both-Hanz
Recruit Gulan Terrek

Casual Curiosity
Gain the Interest of Damask Holdings

Emerald Dream
Make a good First Impression on Naboo

Naboo System Shuffle
Steal from the Trade Federation, Naboo and Darth Sidious during the Invasion without being detected

Godfather
Recruit Borvo the Hutt

Roger, Roger
Recruit OOM-9

Disturbance
Palpatine is Confused

Can't Touch This
Keep Nute Gunray out of Jail

Queen of Hearts
Befriende Padme Amidala

Kali
Ruin then Restore Naboo

I Fought the Law and the Law Lost
Subvert C-SEC

Rags to Riches
Become as wealthy as you claim to be

I Spy With My Big Eye
Purchase The Oracle

Just Business
Found a PMC

The Fourth Horseman
Recruit The Silencer

Divergence
Alter Star Wars Canon

Destiny Defeated
Save General Grievous

Honest Scoundrel
Recruit Silas Cata

Captain of the Seven Voids
Recruit Tyro Torwin

Doctor Professor Explosion
Recruit Var Zheen

Deepthroat
Expose the Truth about the Huk War

The Protagonists
Meet Obi-Wan and Anakin

Not as Planned
Palpatine is Utterly Confused

Lost Twentieth
Meet Count Dooku

Darth Sensible
Unlock Darth Vectivus' Holocron

Double Trouble
Discover the Clone Army before the Jedi without anyone noticing

Invisible Hand
Save the Outbound Flight

Tomb Raider
Collect Force Relics

Corporate Rule
Found a Megacorporation

By The Skin of Your Teeth
Barely Survive an Assassination

Underdog
Make Team Coruscant Not Suck

Grandpa Strikes Back
Annihilate The Conspiracy In a Single Turn

Lazarus
Rise from near-death stronger than before

Blessing from Beyond
Darth Plaguise is Watching

Rewriting History
Kalee Victory in the Second Huk War

Noble Teachings
Learn Lightsaber Combat from Count Dooku

Sketches of The Plan
Discover the link between Damask and Kamino

Secession in Progress
Discover the CIS

Shard of Genius
Recruit Cheriss Sair

Zann Plan
Influence the Galactic Senate

It Was Behind The Sofa
Reveal the Clone Army to the Jedi

Blushing Beard
Embarrass Obi-Wan

Third Way
Help Found the CNS

Hot Gold
Gain a Lava Crystal

Sparring Partner
Meet Asajj Ventress

Omega Protocol
Defeat Omega, Save Darra

Pointless Picture
Rewrite Attack of The Clones

Mother of the Sun
Save Shimi Skywalker

History in Motion
Attend the Founding of the CIS

Saved by Adaption
Prevent the deaths of Zam and Jango Fett

Different Path
Side with the CNS

No Laws, No Borders
Work with both the CIS and the Republic

Nightingale
Become a Humanitarian

From a Certain Point of View
Deceive The Jedi High Council

Irons Hands of Light
Recruit Darra Thel-Tanis

True Sanctuary
Reform the CNS

Technically Innocent
Nullify the Sith Blackmail

The Great Tank Robbery
Steal a Decimator without alerting the Republic and CIS

The First Horseman
Recruit Thrawn

Forsaken
Complete Operation RESI

Crystal Heart
Learn Cherris' Secret

This is Mine
Become the De-facto Leader of the CNS

Morality
Lose Darra Thel-Tanis

King Krayt
Build a Decimator Factory

Shades of Grey
Convince Anakin Skywalker to Lie to the Jedi Council

Hunter of Hunters
Meet Jango Fett

Death Watched
Kill Pre Vizsla

The Second Horseman
Recruit General Grievous

Kicked Upstairs
Neutralise Duchess Satine without violence

Turning Point
Complete Operation Skyfall

Badass Normals
Meet Skirata, Ordo and Delta Squad

Sith Exile
Recruit Asajj Ventress

Past Refined
Found the Mandalorian Guardians

Bright Eclipse
Annihilate the Black Sun Syndicate

Nemesis
Meet Albert Wesker

Queen of Crime
Partnership with the Hutt Council

Corporate Client
Partnership with Raith Sienar

Tales from the Dark Side
Introduce Anakin Skywalker to Sith Lore

Bailing Bail
Protect Senator Organa

War, What War?
Remove all Income Penalties from the Clone Wars

We Have The Technology
Genetically Modify a Hero

Return of the King
Jango Fett Becomes Mand'alor The Resurgent

The Illusive Man
Rescue Seti Ashgad

Homo Superior
Find Albert Wesker and his background

Great Mother
Ally with the Nightsisters

The Not-So-Menacing Phantom
Recruit Darth Vectivus

Secret Service
Install Armed Agents in the Senate Building

Statement: I'm Back Meatbags
Retrieve HK-47

Family First
Recruit Your Cousins

Peacemaker
Organise a Ceasefire and Peace Conference

Saint
Become Revered Across the Galaxy

Trials of Malachor
Earn the Title of Darth Traya

Legacy of Plaguise
Discover the origins of Ciaran's Luck

No Remorse, No Regret
Silencer Learns from and then Betrays the Sun Guard

Order 66
Discover the Purpose of the Control Chips

I Know Where You Live
Discover Darth Sidious' Identity
This. So much this. I regret that I have but one like to give. This needs to be a recurring thing like the Vault.
 
Tyranny has to be Dooku. His Sith Lord name is fucking Darth Tyrannus. It was meant to be.
I once more submit Jango as the Third Horseman. Even if he isn't doing it that way, the title of Mand'alor is that of a Tyrant in the old sense ("an authoritarian sovereign without reference to character" according to Wikipedia).
 
What about if we got Cheriss Star to develop bio-weapons? Easy Third horseman and she's smart so she can totally develop them.
 
I just thought of something:

Thyferra monopolizes the bacta industry, right? How about getting a foothold over there?
 
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