Not necessarily, as there are 150 contingency orders in the case of extreme circumstances. Order 65, for instance, is that the Supreme Chancellor is no longer fit for duty based on a majority vote by the Senate or Security Council and should be captured or killed. Other Orders deal in cases such as loss of command structure, sanctioning actions against a single combatant, suppression of communications/information, actions taken in the event of mass civilian casualties, etc.

Thus, as Jedi are a powerful entity, there is an Order detailing actions taken in the case of the Jedi acting against the interests of the Republic.

True, but iirc Order 66 is the only one that comes from one person with no form of check; its literally 'Chancellor says so and the Jedi all die'.

Actually - since some of the orders specify orders other people can give, shouldn't (theoretically) other people know about the orders too (or at least some of them)?
 
Not necessarily, as there are 150 contingency orders in the case of extreme circumstances.
The difference is, we know that the Inhibitor Chips were added on the orders of Hego Damask, who we've previously concluded was a Sith Lord. We're also aware that the Clone Army was funded by elements within the IGBC that also financed the Separatist movement, which means that the entirety of the Clone Wars was a Sith plot of some sort or other. What do Sith want? They want to destroy the Jedi. What Orders fulfill that purpose? Order 66. Who can 'pull the trigger' on that trigger? The Supreme Chancellor. QED.
Order 65, for instance, is that the Supreme Chancellor is no longer fit for duty based on a majority vote by the Senate or Security Council and should be captured or killed.
The difference between Order 66 and all other orders we know of, is that the rest of the Order gives contingency plans and allow for verification:
Order 65: In the event of either (i) a majority in the Senate declaring the Supreme Commander (Chancellor) to be unfit to issue orders, or (ii) the Security Council declaring him to be unfit to issue orders, and an authenticated order being received by the GAR, commanders shall be authorized to detain the Supreme Commander, with lethal force if necessary, and command of the GAR shall fall to the acting Chancellor until a successor is appointed or alternative authority identified as outlined in Section 6 (iv).
Note: majority vote by Senate or Security Council; order requires authentication; detain 'with lethal force if necessary'. Compare to Order 66:
Order 66: In the event of Jedi officers acting against the interests of the Republic, and after receiving specific orders verified as coming directly from the Supreme Commander (Chancellor), GAR commanders will remove those officers by lethal force, and command of the GAR will revert to the Supreme Commander (Chancellor) until a new command structure is established.
So: executive order by Chancellor; order requires verification (not authentication -- that is, the clones only need to confirm that the order comes from the Chancellor, but are not required to confirm that the order has valid evidence); "remove by lethal force" as a first resort. Also note that Order 66 applies to all Jedi officers, without specifying any particular individual.

So yes, once we decrypted the Inhibitor Chip, it should become pretty clear pretty quickly which Order is the centerpiece of the Sith conspiracy.
 
Killing the Jedi order? You out of your mind?
I do admit they need reforms but killing everyone leaving a few we like alive? well I be swearing off screen and all.
 
Hmm maybe... though could have sworn there was more than that..

In any case, the Jedi Shadows are certainly a threat to us considering:

If they ever suspected or found out we have any Sith Artifacts or whatever, they'll be sent after us..

Probably not given how public a figure we are.

Also, I may or may not be getting it wrong but I think it's actually legal to be a Sith in the Republic these days, in addition the Jedi only really go after Dark Siders they know to be going about enslaving and murdering people, like they certainly haven't gone and wiped out the Nightsisters nor have they ever gone after the Sorcerors of Tund, a splinter cult of honest to goodness Red Sith! Legit, actually the last known population of Red Sith in the Galaxy! And they actually use an offshoot of ancient Sith Sorceries!

Generally it's only the crazies in the Jedi Order that are liable to fall to the Dark Side themselves who go out of their way to oppress non-obviously gratuitously evil Force Users.

They'll certainly give us a lot of scrutiny if it's made public that we're a student of Sith teachings, although a lot can be mitigated by displaying our eclectic collection of other Force traditions.
But yeah, I wouldn't expect Jedi hit squads to be hacking down the Galaxy's darling Lady Ciaran, they'd just be looking for any indication of evil.

As long as Ciaran doesn't put on her Kaleesh mask in the Jedi Temple, declare herself Dark Lord of the Sith and then pledge an eternal war of blood and darkness against the Republic we should be fine.
 
Probably not given how public a figure we are.

Also, I may or may not be getting it wrong but I think it's actually legal to be a Sith in the Republic these days, in addition the Jedi only really go after Dark Siders they know to be going about enslaving and murdering people, like they certainly haven't gone and wiped out the Nightsisters nor have they ever gone after the Sorcerors of Tund, a splinter cult of honest to goodness Red Sith! Legit, actually the last known population of Red Sith in the Galaxy! And they actually use an offshoot of ancient Sith Sorceries!

Generally it's only the crazies in the Jedi Order that are liable to fall to the Dark Side themselves who go out of their way to oppress non-obviously gratuitously evil Force Users.

They'll certainly give us a lot of scrutiny if it's made public that we're a student of Sith teachings, although a lot can be mitigated by displaying our eclectic collection of other Force traditions.
But yeah, I wouldn't expect Jedi hit squads to be hacking down the Galaxy's darling Lady Ciaran, they'd just be looking for any indication of evil.

As long as Ciaran doesn't put on her Kaleesh mask in the Jedi Temple, declare herself Dark Lord of the Sith and then pledge an eternal war of blood and darkness against the Republic we should be fine.
first of all the kaleesh make good mask's
if we ever go incognito and want to go dueling some peeps we got to were it.
also if i have a say in anything i want the jedi to return to the old badass teachings, like in that one omake were anakin becomes a jedi LORD. i loved the fuck out of that
 
I wonder if we are going to get an action to get as many of the clones unchipped as possible? I wouldn't be surprised if she finds out that Darth Sidious is planning on doing the Order after how everything she did.

Now where did I put my blaster?
 
Note: Will have to convince the Senate, some of which are in cahoots with Sidious.
 
(Omake) Declassified Abyss Watcher's Document (Canon)
'...I should like an appreciation of Coruscanti personalities. Are they not possibly for sale?...' – Our Good Friend.

Minutes from: IC 230/29







TOP SECRET

WO 800/437​

2.11./49/W.R/44.



G.



Some week ago our good friend instructed us to make a study into the possibilities of further surveillance of the clientele of SSS by any suitable means after all others had been expended by existing teams.

1 . The team concerned with the task have proceeded and achieved their goal. Our other team tasked with the monitoring of the intelligence have compiled a series of reports and minutes on items of interest at a senior legislative level and will continue to do so.

2 . There are several of note which are attached to this copy of the report for you to go over and address with our good friend and their circle.

3 . The team concerned with the task however faced minor trouble and have unfortunately 'died' over the course of the month. In addition two civilians whom we approached with regards to the task are now on Alderaan and should be back on planet by the end of the quarter before we part ways.


Your Friend,

C.

Its not the omake i said I'd do but eh. And yeah civil service and intelligence documents can be that short. I was surprised the first time I read a declassified one but there are some complete stonkers like 30-50 pages long.
 
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Just want to drop in and say that, after thinking that Teron had stopped the Quest due to his RL issues, finding that the quest is still alive is a good news. I especially like the first Interlude between Ciaran and Anakin, that one was just perfectly written.

Also, in regards of the current situation, I find that it would be very ironic if Palps fall to Order 65. And I think it could done.

Finally, you've gotten some answers. In some ways though...you wish you hadn't. (To be continued in Order 66)

[] Shadow Meeting: Seti has pointed out that his comrades in the Senate who stand against Palpatine aren't truly aware of what he's capable of, and has suggested that you set up a covert meeting to help rally some of the more prominent figures like Bail Organa or Garm Bel Iblis. Chance of Success: 80% Reward: Anti-Palpatine faction's major members meet with you and Seti
Sure, it is still debatable whether or not Ciaran finds out that Palps is Sidious in the next interlude but whatever info we can get could very well be relayed to the Anti-Palpatine faction. And besides, this is essentially a vote of no confidence. Combined with the fact that we can reliably protect the senators due to SSS, this is a plan that could very well work...without putting Ciaran and the Abyss Watcher in the limelight too much.
 
Also, I may or may not be getting it wrong but I think it's actually legal to be a Sith in the Republic these days, in addition the Jedi only really go after Dark Siders they know to be going about enslaving and murdering people, like they certainly haven't gone and wiped out the Nightsisters nor have they ever gone after the Sorcerors of Tund, a splinter cult of honest to goodness Red Sith! Legit, actually the last known population of Red Sith in the Galaxy! And they actually use an offshoot of ancient Sith Sorceries!
Some should write an omake about the Jedi trying to arrest Ciaran as an evil sith lord. Only to have her to challenge the Jedi in a court of law and win.
After all, if the evil Sith Lord did not actually comment any provable crimes, then on what grounds can the Jedi arrest her or him?
 
is there a force sect based around martial arts? (aka the fine art of punch their fucking face in)
 
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Some should write an omake about the Jedi trying to arrest Ciaran as an evil sith lord. Only to have her to challenge the Jedi in a court of law and win.
After all, if the evil Sith Lord did not actually comment any provable crimes, then on what grounds can the Jedi arrest her or him?

Keep in mind that the Jedi were, in Ep III, debating overthrowing Palpatine (before they knew he was a Sith Lord) and the senate and ruling the Republic in their stead. These people are not going to let Ciaran tie them up in a court of law if they think she is a real problem!

The Jedi, just like the Republic they serve, are corrupt by the time of the clone wars. Well-meaning corrupt, but corrupt.

There is a reason why the promised one who would bring balance to the Force spent most of his live criss-crossing the galaxy killing Jedi. On the ashes that Darth Vader left, Luke Skywalker's new Jedi order could grow.

I don't think it is in Ciaran's interests for the Jedi to remain as strong as they are currently and I don't think it is in the galaxy's interest either.

But is it in her interests for the Jedi to be destroyed? Probably not. Ideally, I'd like Palpatine to grind them down some. But Palps may not play ball. Ciaran has been far more effective at opposing him so far than the Jedi have.

If Palps and the Jedi join forces against Ciaran, we're in trouble.

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I had a thought: What if Palpatine talked to Ciaran? I mean, not as Chancellor, but flat out as Sidious talked to Ciaran about his plot? Would he try to recruit us? COULD he recruit us? I don't know, just a random "what if?" thought...
 
I had a thought: What if Palpatine talked to Ciaran? I mean, not as Chancellor, but flat out as Sidious talked to Ciaran about his plot? Would he try to recruit us? COULD he recruit us? I don't know, just a random "what if?" thought...

An interesting Idea to be sure, but I don't think that would work, even if he actually tried at it. Ciaran is way to nosy and our ambitions would clash with Palpatine eventually, resulting in typical Sith politics. Namely trying to kill each other.

If only we were introduced before he killed Plagueis. Granted we would probably be dead by now due to our tendency to troll everyone, but it would be glorious for a while.
 
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I had a thought: What if Palpatine talked to Ciaran? I mean, not as Chancellor, but flat out as Sidious talked to Ciaran about his plot? Would he try to recruit us? COULD he recruit us? I don't know, just a random "what if?" thought...

I figure that Palps must think that Ciaran is, at most, a patsy who is being used as a front by a rival Sith. Obviously (to his way of thinking), Ciaran's luck must be the workings of the Force, but if he thought Ciaran herself were a rival Force user, he surely would have made a strong play to destroy her.

I figure that there is some chance that Ciaran will be offered the chance to be his apprentice once he figures out she's a player, but only after the Abyss Watchers are destroyed (better for him to destroy Ciaran's temporal power before he makes her apprentice). Also, such an offer is much more likely if Ciaran manages to kill Dooku before hand (shows Ciaran has the "right stuff").

fasquardon
 
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