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May The Invisible Hand Be With You - (Star Wars CK2-Style Quest)

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I always imagined that a large part of lost watcher teams consist of watchers getting mission completion boni and hazard pay good enough to set them up for life and retiring early.
 
Dr. Snark said:
you've been reassured that the facility you've bought is far tougher than it looks.
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Of course it is. This is Kashyyyk a world whose wildlife sometime needs (Small) capital ship weaponry to deal with. Pretty much all the buildings beyond the street food carts would count as reinforced on any other planet. The food carts all are armed to deal with their version of squirrels and pigeons.
 
@Dr. Snark: Yanno, I was thinking about Galvin... Wouldn't it make more sense for him to be Cheriss Sair's trait, not Silas' trait?

Plus, I totally want to see omakes of Cheriss and Galvin kicking Wesker butt together. :-D

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fasquardon said:
@Dr. Snark: Yanno, I was thinking about Galvin... Wouldn't it make more sense for him to be Cheriss Sair's trait, not Silas' trait?
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...Tempting, but for logistical purposes he's going with Silas. Besides, his boost for her would be smaller since she can actually put up a decent fight with her new frame.
 
Kornet said:
I always imagined that a large part of lost watcher teams consist of watchers getting mission completion boni and hazard pay good enough to set them up for life and retiring early.
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I saw it as them dying in the process of doing the various illegal things needed to do to get things done as quickly and thoroughly as needed, things like shoot outs, kidnappings, extortions and blackmail.

I imagine that most of it is brushed under the rug as typical criminal incidents but there must be some awareness somewhere, it's either people know that the Abyss Watchers are the top criminal syndicate after the Hutts or there's a terrifying shadow force that annihilated the Black Suns with great efficiency for some unknown reason whilst criminal activity carries on, going somewhere.

Or it could even be due to running into whatever task forces or investigations are going into past actions.
 
Kornet said:
I always imagined that a large part of lost watcher teams consist of watchers getting mission completion boni and hazard pay good enough to set them up for life and retiring early.
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I was thinking more along the line of being burned. they accomplish the mission but are now known so we have to cut ties, albeit with a generous severance package. Having such a high fatality position doesn't really fit the abyss watchers style.
 
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The New Mandalore (CNS)
You were worried that this would be a problem before Thrawn tackled it.
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Thrawn Tackles the Issues
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"Grievous, glad I could catch you." said Thrawn as he passed the Kaleesh general. "I've been meaning to inquire as to how you'd go about quelling discontent. I fear my enthusiasm in reinstating a Mand'alor blinded me to the potential ramifications of my actions. Lady Ciaran has been furiously trying to calm the fears of the masses, but I'd like to do my fair share of the work. I'm still a strategist however, and so I was hoping to get some input on potential approaches."

"On Kalee, those who disagree with a leader duel. The victor is deemed correct, and the loser has no choice but to follow." said Grievous.

"I see." said Thrawn, hand on his chin in thought. "So I should physically subdue them and win their respect. Interesting. Thank you for your time. When next we meet I shall have results."


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Dongu Guttop was a proud Mandalorian. Unlike others who claimed such things however, Dongu was a proud New Mandalorian, who rejected the warlike history of his people to embrace their pacifistic future. The recognition of Jango Fett as the first Mand'alor in living memory threatened to return the planet to its old ways. People often compared him to Sher Mand'alor, and Dongu believed the comparisons. What other kind of person would become a bounty hunter but one who enjoyed fighting for its own sake?

But this wasn't the past. In the current year, Dongu had a voice, and a right to use it. Every day for the past month he and other likeminded Mandalorians had been protesting outside both the new residence of Jango Fett, urging him to step down, and the manor of Duchess Satine, urging her to make him step down. Grabbing his "Not My Mand'alor" sign, Dongu set out once again.

Walking down the street, Dongu heard a quiet noise, almost like someone screaming. Screwing his face up to try and focus on it, the sound seemed to get louder. Then Dongu identified the sound as coming from behind him, and turned to see a blue man in military uniform sprinting towards him while screaming incoherently. Fight or flight instincts kicked in, and Dongu chose flight, dropping his sign and attempting to run away.

But Dongu's life of peace hadn't made him a sprinter, and his pursuit was gaining on him. The blue man sped up a bit as he neared Dongu, before diving forward and tackling him to the ground. Both were breathing heavily, but the crazy person who had Dongu pinned managed to wheeze out some words. "Jango Fett… is not… a warmonger... stop protesting… and go home…"

The man then rolled off of Dongu, leaving him to hurry home as fast as his exhausted body could carry him. The protests were important, but he would live to fight tyranny another day. Maybe he'd call the others to warn them.


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Thrawn stood with satisfaction as the man went home. Apparently Grievous' advice had been solid. Now all he had to do was repeat the event at the actual protests. Which if patterns held would be outside Jango's. Perhaps Thrawn would drop in for another one of their chats. For a bounty hunter who had previously renounced his heritage, Jango Fett knew a shocking amount of Mandalorian history.


AN: A short one, but I'm headed back to college tomorrow so today was mostly packing. I'll still try to write omakes for this quest, because it's fucking fun and I still have a lot of ideas, but I won't be keeping up that three a day pace I had going last turn.
 
So, was just thinking on the Order 66 stuff. I'm pre-emptively saying DONT FUCKING TELL THE GODDAMN JEDI! I mean don't tell most people but ESPECIALLY DONT TELL THE FUCKING JEDI! The only thing that could get the Senate to pass Order 66 without Emergency Powers would be the Jedi overthrowing the Senate....which telling the Jedi ABOUT Order 66 would cause in the first place!

But tbh I think outside of the Watchers, Jango, the Nightmother and our 'allied' Clone Troopers from that one action should be informed IMO. first two especially, though the latter would only be interested in 'BTW Sheev = sith lord you're looking for'
 
Should we even bother saving the upper echelons of the Jedi? Let Order 66 go through, but intervene to try and save as many of the younglings, padawans etc. as possible?

You just know they'll be the next threat to us after Palpatine. And that secret order of Jedi that go round hunting non-Jedi force users down...
 
At some point, I think siccing the Jedi on Palpatine is a good idea, and probably the most straightforward way to physically get rid of him. But that isn't the first thing we should do. In fact, I think it's the last thing we should do. We need to set the stage for a Palpatine takedown first.
 
Kaioo said:
Should we even bother saving the upper echelons of the Jedi? Let Order 66 go through, but intervene to try and save as many of the younglings, padawans etc. as possible?

You just know they'll be the next threat to us after Palpatine. And that secret order of Jedi that go round hunting non-Jedi force users down...
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Obi-wan is on the council. He's as upper echelon as you get. We like Obi-wan. So I'd veto that plan.
 
Kaioo said:
Should we even bother saving the upper echelons of the Jedi? Let Order 66 go through, but intervene to try and save as many of the younglings, padawans etc. as possible?

You just know they'll be the next threat to us after Palpatine. And that secret order of Jedi that go round hunting non-Jedi force users down...
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We can win the PR war against the Jedi. Heck, trying to strike at us might even result in another schism in the Jedi Order. Continuing to subvert them by being a reasonable person is much better than not trying to protect them. If someone learned that we could have saved them and did nothing, that would create an enemy a lot more dangerous than just the Jedi working as normal.
 
Panory said:
Obi-wan is on the council. He's as upper echelon as you get. We like Obi-wan. So I'd veto that plan.
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True Obi-Wan is alright.. as long as we can make him not go typical Jedi.

But Jedi like Mace Windu.. And that secret order I mentioned.. those sort of Jedi would use their power to try and take us out.. We're a threat to their Jedi way.
 
Kaioo said:
Should we even bother saving the upper echelons of the Jedi? Let Order 66 go through, but intervene to try and save as many of the younglings, padawans etc. as possible?

You just know they'll be the next threat to us after Palpatine. And that secret order of Jedi that go round hunting non-Jedi force users down...
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Putting the Jedi in a more stable position of power is sort of like having the Republic win - it results in a situation where we still have plenty of room to maneuver and generally exist. With the republic, that's due to them being made of a lot of polities with their own agendas. With the Jedi, its due to them thinking their the good guys, being old-fashioned, etc. Its something we can work with.

We don't want to rule the Galaxy, after all - we want to own it. which means that keeping it from being a hegemony is best. While we'll want to keep things like Hutt Space around, create some sort of galactic cold war. Engineer a setup where in the case of a galaxy-wide threat, they'll team up but otherwise they're glaring each other down.
 
Kaioo said:
True Obi-Wan is alright.. as long as we can make him not go typical Jedi.

But Jedi like Mace Windu.. And that secret order I mentioned.. those sort of Jedi would use their power to try and take us out.. We're a threat to their Jedi way.
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There are definitely Jedi we aren't tight with. But I question a plan that consists of "Call for the simultaneous execution of all Jedi. We can probably protect the people we like, the people we don't will probably be the only ones to die, and we can probably call off the clones afterwards. And we like the clones, so we can probably keep them out of trouble for their mass execution of the Jedi Order."

That's a lot of probably, and seems likely to either blow up in our face or get people we like killed. There are also a lot of Jedi we've never even met, and I really don't like the idea of passing judgement on people we've never met just for being Jedi. Given how few Jedi we're directly not cool with, it would be more practical to just anonymously throw a bunch of credits at Cad Bane and point him in their general direction.
 
thepsyborg said:
Knowing Order 66 exists fingers Palpatine as Sidious.
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Not necessarily, as there are 150 contingency orders in the case of extreme circumstances. Order 65, for instance, is that the Supreme Chancellor is no longer fit for duty based on a majority vote by the Senate or Security Council and should be captured or killed. Other Orders deal in cases such as loss of command structure, sanctioning actions against a single combatant, suppression of communications/information, actions taken in the event of mass civilian casualties, etc.

Thus, as Jedi are a powerful entity, there is an Order detailing actions taken in the case of the Jedi acting against the interests of the Republic.
 
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Kaioo said:
Huh.. the only thing I can find is the Jedi Covenant, who were based around Revan's era.

Could have sworn I remember there being something about a Clone Wars era secret Jedi group on the same vein as the Covenant.. Or that the Covenant were still around in the Clone Wars era... odd...
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Are you thinking of the Jedi Shadows? Although they only go after Sith, not all non-Jedi force users.

EDIT: Or, more broadly, The Council of First Knowledge, for whom the Shadows work.
 
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MobiusC said:
Not necessarily, as there are 150 contingency orders in the case of extreme circumstances. Order 65, for instance, is that the Supreme Chancellor is no longer fit for duty based on a majority vote by the Senate or Security Council and should be captured or killed. Other Orders deal in cases such as loss of command structure, sanctioning actions against a single combatant, suppression of communications/information, actions taken in the event of mass civilian casualties, etc.

Thus, as Jedi are a powerful entity, there is an Order detailing actions taken in the case of the Jedi acting against the interests of the Republic.
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Reminds me of a fanfic where Anakin goes and petitions the Senate to freeing the clones under the basis that the chipped clones were slaves.
 
Wilgar said:
Are you thinking of the Jedi Shadows? Although they only go after Sith, not all non-Jedi force users.

EDIT: Or, more broadly, The Council of First Knowledge, for whom the Shadows work.
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Hmm maybe... though could have sworn there was more than that..

In any case, the Jedi Shadows are certainly a threat to us considering:
Shadows were sent to destroy anything and everything connected with the Sith and their followers.
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If they ever suspected or found out we have any Sith Artifacts or whatever, they'll be sent after us..
 
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