Lights... Camera... ACTION!!: A Hollywood Quest

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT
Hi Magoose here one of the guys helping Duke.

So we have some bad news.

The quest has been canceled as duke does not want to write it anymore.

I'm going to ask if I can take over for it, because I like this quest, and it would be a shame to kill it
TBF, Mags, you have been doing a lot of the heavylifting for the quest, so this will be in good hands. :)

To be clear to everyone, this is just me burning out on imagination of the quest, since my muse has been hitting me over the head a lot with so many different ideas that I just can't find myself too interested in this.

I'll still hang out here, though, since this still does have a sepcial place in my heart.

I'd like to thank you all for making this a wonderful experience while it lasted.

I'd also like to thank @Magoose, @Fluffy_serpent, and @Martin Noctis for doing so much to help prepare and write this quest. I couldn't have done it without you all. :D

I'll see you all around.

With so many regards, Duke William Of.
 
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Next turn we should be putting a lot of money into Romania via investing, maybe talk to the CIA about how to give money to support rebels in other parts of the Warsaw Pact

So think anyone can make a map how this Romania looks like?
 
So the Soviets are gonna have to repace those 700k soldiers and with 350k in citizens dead to infection is gonna be hard, and with a famine in the soviets and a lack of trade, they are in for a very hard time, and many more citizens are gonna died
 
Next turn we should be putting a lot of money into Romania via investing, maybe talk to the CIA about how to give money to support rebels in other parts of the Warsaw Pact

So think anyone can make a map how this Romania looks like?
what would be the right amount to send to romania ?
same for irland there is an oportunity to invest here with the incoming economic irish crisis and the romania who get crazy about irish product
 
A purge in the military when they are trying to replace 700k soldiers, yea there is no way that can make things worse
 
what would be the right amount to send to romania ?
same for irland there is an oportunity to invest here with the incoming economic irish crisis and the romania who get crazy about irish product
250mil or more would be good, there is gonna be a lot of things that needed to be rebuild along with farms and mines that have lost there owners, we are gonna have star wars money coming in soon, so we could afford it

Not to mention generals will be purged as well including entire branches they are doing a purge not seen since Stalin days
You know. i think i read somewhere that that russian never recovery the pop they had pre ww2, and this is almost as bad with a mil of there people kill to war and bio, and now a famine along with them purged a lot of people

For the soviets this is just the worst timeline, and if one of the other puppets break off and the soviets try to stop them, its gonna be worse for them. And i think that the breaking up of the soviets union is gonna much worse with more parts of russian wanting to break of
 
Acually given the 1970s in the Soviet Union...them having a lacking time due to the slowly festering curroption that is slowly taking hold effecting their actual abilities in the field sounds about right.

As for the rest? Most of it was probably luck and skill on that end.

Fantastic Breakdown of the War Lucasfilm started!
The funny thing about history is that it isn't realistic at times. Sometimes, history reads like a trashy novel with all the petty feuds, ridiculously inhuman feats, improbable scenarios, and such.

It's believable enough to me at the very least.



Also, I think you forgot something here.
My only reply to that.

Everything that happened in Europe from 1791, to 1815. That reads like a trashy victorian era novel, with an overpowered main charecter who can do no wrong, and taken out by his own hubris. :V

All true, and I suppose there's a decent chance of a lot of the stuff happening in a hypothetical war save for how the Revolution was started and the lopsided casualty ratios. But considering current events, having the Soviet Union suffer such a horrendous defeat is quite cathartic. It does help that most of the issues plaguing the Russian military and its political culture stem from stuff that originated in the 60's so the Soviets are literally dealing with the same crap plaguing Russia but instead it's against a large and well-equipped peer with the power of Magoose Dice on their side.

...So, is this gonna end up being the first recorded time where the Olympics was actually very much not worth the cost?
Cause while the cost has yet to start ballooning as much as currently, this Russian Olympics seem to be looking at having most of the world boycott it.

Technically Montreal is the first as the city would be plagued with horrendous debts for the next 30 years and the shit design of the Olympic Stadium doomed the Expos to failure. But yeah, the Moscow Games are going to be a horrendous financial loss for the Soviet Union as most of the world isn't even going to play. If not for the boycott, then most athletes probably wouldn't want to go anyways considering the plague shenanigans Magoose has hinted at going on behind the Iron Curtain.

...I'm now very upset that The Miracle on Ice isnt set to happen in this timeline.

Also, why no mention of the IRA?

Considering that America helped to deliver the greatest defeat the Soviet Union has experienced in its history that makes the Soviet-Polish War look like a papercut, not to mention the enlarged Summer Boycott, I don't think that the Soviets would be in the mood to play in America. That's not even mentioning the very hostile atmosphere present against the Communist nations as I think the Soviets would have a legitimate fear of their players being assassinated like the Israelis at Munich.

I didn't mention the IRA because I forgot, but to be honest I don't really see it being realistic for them being present in any major capacity. Firstly, I don't see why the CIA would let the IRA take a leadership role in supplying the Romanians considering this is the most important operation in the agency's history and the CIA already has cooperation with Yugoslavia, the country through which the guns are ran. So there is no gun smuggling and the IRA wouldn't have any natural motivation to actively aid Romania, or how they would make such an impact versus the American Military-Industrial complex? I would imagine the IRA's role, if any to being used as grunt labor for weapons smuggling after the Biowar and some Irish mercenaries being badasses.


Sorry brain fart.

Next turn we should be putting a lot of money into Romania via investing, maybe talk to the CIA about how to give money to support rebels in other parts of the Warsaw Pact

So think anyone can make a map how this Romania looks like?

I would hold off on investment in Romania until its confirmed the plagues are cleaned from the country and they have an official treaty with the Soviets. Also the only way Bruce is gonna fund CIA operations is through his taxes. There's absolutely no need to support rebels when the Soviets just ended the kill order. All it does is put a target on Bruce's back and there's no need to do something that the CIA can handle on their own.

My idea for Romania after the war was current Romania plus Moldova sans modern day Transinistria and the Western Odesa Oblast which comprises of the historical Romanian counties of Ismail and Cetatea Alba. The border with the Soviet Union/Ukraine would be at the Dnister river and Transinistria would probably exist here as a military district to block off Romania in a potential future war. I'll probably make a map later and a separate post describing whatever peace treaty comes.

So the Soviets are gonna have to repace those 700k soldiers and with 350k in citizens dead to infection is gonna be hard, and with a famine in the soviets and a lack of trade, they are in for a very hard time, and many more citizens are gonna died

Not to mention the PTSD and social ostracization of the veterans which OTL resulted in the high crime waves taking place in Russia in the 90s and whatever epidemic is going on in the Soviet Union as hinted by Magoose. Their demographics are certainly going to be more fucked than OTL.

I will say that when I wrote famine, I meant it to be a situation in certain regions of the Soviet Union rather than a total famine across the entire nation. Most of Ukraine's breadbasket survived the war and plague deaths mean less mouths to feed. I think you'll probably see famines in places like Siberia, Central Asia or the Caucuses but the Western Union will still have food.
 
I would imagine the IRA's role, if any to being used as grunt labor for weapons smuggling after the Biowar and some Irish mercenaries being badasses.
There will be many Irish mercenary stories in fiction when the Romanian War is involved, and their aftermath, that is all I will say.

But lets just say that Ireland is not exactly happy that her sons and daughters decided to go galavant off into war, when they have a history of neutrality.
 
I didn't mention the IRA because I forgot, but to be honest I don't really see it being realistic for them being present in any major capacity. Firstly, I don't see why the CIA would let the IRA take a leadership role in supplying the Romanians considering this is the most important operation in the agency's history and the CIA already has cooperation with Yugoslavia, the country through which the guns are ran. So there is no gun smuggling and the IRA wouldn't have any natural motivation to actively aid Romania, or how they would make such an impact versus the American Military-Industrial complex? I would imagine the IRA's role, if any to being used as grunt labor for weapons smuggling after the Biowar and some Irish mercenaries being badasses.
I think the general confusion about that stems from the fact that the omake is written somewhat similarly to a wikipedia article, which would have knowledge of IRA involvement, as well as the fact that the level of IRA involvement you describe runs counter to what has been established by Magoose and especially with the current Romanian obsession with anything out of Ireland, but I don't think it ultimately matters that much. It's a bangin' omake.😙🤌
Although, I was a bit confused about the Sons of the Dragon bit since you had them exist before Dracula, but I was pretty sure that thread canon had them be created as a result of the film, which is why they're called Sons of the Dragon in the first place, unless I'm just horribly mistaken.
 
Can I point out how the Soviets might actually fracture and balkized in the aftermath due to how they are now so worse off here and the purge is even greater here the likes not seems since Stalin
 
I will say that when I wrote famine, I meant it to be a situation in certain regions of the Soviet Union rather than a total famine across the entire nation. Most of Ukraine's breadbasket survived the war and plague deaths mean less mouths to feed. I think you'll probably see famines in places like Siberia, Central Asia or the Caucuses but the Western Union will still have food.
The Soviets had to import food in RL even when everthing is going right for them, now with some of the Ukraine's breadbasket being gone, and with 350k citizens being dead, some of them maybe being farmers, that along with the soviets needing to replace 700k soldiers, and a lot of those new soldiers are gonna come from the rural regions of the Soviet Union, and that is just gonna make the famine even worse
 
Considering that America helped to deliver the greatest defeat the Soviet Union has experienced in its history that makes the Soviet-Polish War look like a papercut, not to mention the enlarged Summer Boycott, I don't think that the Soviets would be in the mood to play in America. That's not even mentioning the very hostile atmosphere present against the Communist nations as I think the Soviets would have a legitimate fear of their players being assassinated like the Israelis at Munich.
That wasn't a complaint, that was me realizing that one of the greatest events of sports history was going to disappear.
I didn't mention the IRA because I forgot, but to be honest I don't really see it being realistic for them being present in any major capacity. Firstly, I don't see why the CIA would let the IRA take a leadership role in supplying the Romanians considering this is the most important operation in the agency's history and the CIA already has cooperation with Yugoslavia, the country through which the guns are ran. So there is no gun smuggling and the IRA wouldn't have any natural motivation to actively aid Romania, or how they would make such an impact versus the American Military-Industrial complex? I would imagine the IRA's role, if any to being used as grunt labor for weapons smuggling after the Biowar and some Irish mercenaries being badasses.
I understand forgetting, but what you're saying here runs counter to what Magoose has said in the past.
There will be many Irish mercenary stories in fiction when the Romanian War is involved, and their aftermath, that is all I will say.

But lets just say that Ireland is not exactly happy that her sons and daughters decided to go galavant off into war, when they have a history of neutrality.
I mean, if I remember correctly, the only reason Ireland was neutral in WWII was because the Prime Minister was a strange man, who the day after the war ended, wrote a letter to Germany expressing his condolences for the death of Hitler.

Also, pretty sure them doing this still tracks, given the number of Irishmen who left Ireland to fight on behalf of the British and other nations to fight the Nazis directly.
I think the general confusion about that stems from the fact that the omake is written somewhat similarly to a wikipedia article, which would have knowledge of IRA involvement, as well as the fact that the level of IRA involvement you describe runs counter to what has been established by Magoose and especially with the current Romanian obsession with anything out of Ireland, but I don't think it ultimately matters that much. It's a bangin' omake.😙🤌
Although, I was a bit confused about the Sons of the Dragon bit since you had them exist before Dracula, but I was pretty sure that thread canon had them be created as a result of the film, which is why they're called Sons of the Dragon in the first place, unless I'm just horribly mistaken.
Also this.
 
Although, I was a bit confused about the Sons of the Dragon bit since you had them exist before Dracula, but I was pretty sure that thread canon had them be created as a result of the film, which is why they're called Sons of the Dragon in the first place, unless I'm just horribly mistaken.

I thought it would have been too much of a suspension of disbelief for the Sons to exist as a spontaneous reaction to Dracula and for the Revolution to go off so perfectly along with Romania being so united and so effective against the Soviets without there being some sort of existing anti-Communist movement to take leadership. The National Salvation Front worked in OTL because it was a rapid revolution that deposed of Ceausescu and Romania didn't have to fight any external war with the country being united behind it. Were it not for the war then I would have written the Sons as being a reactionary movement. It also didn't help that all of the anti-Communist leaders of OTL are either dead or too young to be in positions of power, thus the conspiracy and it being part of this TL's many soft departures leading to Bruce joining Hollywood.

Can I point out how the Soviets might actually fracture and balkized in the aftermath due to how they are now so worse off here and the purge is even greater here the likes not seems since Stalin

It's gonna take more than this to fracture if the Union still existed after all of Stalin's shit and Chernobyl OTL. For all of the tyranny that the Soviets did, most of the Union wanted to stay as part of it until the August Coup. Though in all likelihood it will die in the mid to late 80s and there's a chance there might be a few new breakaway states in Russia like Chechnya.

Also there doesn't necessarily need to be a full scale purge if Brezhnev dies or the Politburo and military pull a Kruschev and coup him for losing the war. Blame Brezhnev, purge the KGB as scapegoats, and you can avoid a Stalinist purge.

The Soviets had to import food in RL even when everthing is going right for them, now with some of the Ukraine's breadbasket being gone, and with 350k citizens being dead, some of them maybe being farmers, that along with the soviets needing to replace 700k soldiers, and a lot of those new soldiers are gonna come from the rural regions of the Soviet Union, and that is just gonna make the famine even worse

Point taken, although it should be noted that the late 70's were the best performing agricultural years in the USSR's history. If the Soviets wanted their people fed, they shouldn't have waged genocide on a nation that kicked their ass routinely and is right next door to their breadbasket.
 
I'm still not sure if the IRA has the power and influence to do anything on the mainland. Because 1) Its focused was always on Irish unification and to seperate from the UK and 2) It's considered a terrorist organasation in the UK with many bomings and an unlawful oragnasation in Ireland, I also would doubt its motives to even intervene in Romania because it was a leftist organasation who received support from leftist groups but I can overlook that sinds the USSR made it selfs unpopular.
So I don't see the IRA having any influence perhaps very minor but not in the way that's being hinted at. Beceuse they don't have the support on the mainland and because the UK would shut down any shenanigans with the IRA after hundreds have died due to bombings.
 
So I don't see the IRA having any influence perhaps very minor but not in the way that's being hinted at. Beceuse they don't have the support on the mainland and because the UK would shut down any shenanigans with the IRA after hundreds have died due to bombings.
They just had some shenanigans, like gun running mercenary work, and refugee relocation... that got blown up by the media, and thier PR group to make them less a terrorist orginizaition.

Mostly for the paycheck.
 
Point taken, although it should be noted that the late 70's were the best performing agricultural years in the USSR's history. If the Soviets wanted their people fed, they shouldn't have waged genocide on a nation that kicked their ass routinely and is right next door to their breadbasket.
That's going to make the situation worse when in six years the Chornobyl Disaster kicks off, assuming they've somewhat recovered by then.
Beceuse they don't have the support on the mainland and because the UK would shut down any shenanigans with the IRA after hundreds have died due to bombings.
Counterpoint, the IRA here was backed by the CIA to do this, to grease the wheels, so to speak.
 
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250mil or more would be good, there is gonna be a lot of things that needed to be rebuild along with farms and mines that have lost there owners, we are gonna have star wars money coming in soon, so we could afford it
so let's say invest/charity 400 mil for romania,invest/charity 300 mil for irland and invest/charity 300 mil for natove ameriacn nations (it'was proposed a few time to do something for them before right ?)
 
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