TBF, Mags, you have been doing a lot of the heavylifting for the quest, so this will be in good hands.
To be clear to everyone, this is just me burning out on imagination of the quest, since my muse has been hitting me over the head a lot with so many different ideas that I just can't find myself too interested in this.
I'll still hang out here, though, since this still does have a sepcial place in my heart.
I'd like to thank you all for making this a wonderful experience while it lasted.
I'd also like to thank @Magoose, @Fluffy_serpent, and @Martin Noctis for doing so much to help prepare and write this quest. I couldn't have done it without you all.
Problem with that though. We have at least Empire and Return to still meet him, whereas we might not meet the others again at all or at least for a long time(I can't immediately recall what films the others were in so don't quote me on that part). Meeting him now really isn't priority. It really comes down more to simply who we want to interact with more, rather than which is more pressing to meet. If that's James for you, that's fine, but I believe the approach you present is inaccurate.
Oh that's simply awful, really wish I did something to autopass those two disaster rolls. Were it any other movie this could be manageable but during the midst of Carrie's first pregnancy this was probably the worst thing that could have happened. Since it's a five month shoot and we left in May can that mean that we arrive back in October? That gives us at least two months left since Carrie conceived some time in May and Bruce would at least be there somewhat instead of being completely devastated. Real shame, I had a decent amount of pregnancy and parenthood omakes planned and some other cool stuff like the 1977 World Series which had the Yankees play against the Dodgers.
Did we at least find out who the hell ruined the set? I'm hoping we throw the book at them and drive them to bankruptcy in revenge.
Also how is Carrie taking all of this? Does she understand that Bruce just had absolutely shit luck?
Oh that's simply awful, really wish I did something to autopass those two disaster rolls. Were it any other movie this could be manageable but during the midst of Carrie's first pregnancy this was probably the worst thing that could have happened. Since it's a five month shoot and we left in May can that mean that we arrive back in October? That gives us at least two months left since Carrie conceived some time in May and Bruce would at least be there somewhat instead of being completely devastated. Real shame, I had a decent amount of pregnancy and parenthood omakes planned and some other cool stuff like the 1977 World Series which had the Yankees play against the Dodgers.
Did we at least find out who the hell ruined the set? I'm hoping we throw the book at them and drive them to bankruptcy in revenge.
Also how is Carrie taking all of this? Does she understand that Bruce just had absolutely shit luck?
Either way, we're going to have to spend a lot of time with her in order to counter how we weren't able to be there for her through one of the hardest periods of a woman's life.
Also, we should start making plans to contact George Miller in order to distribute Mad Max (and hopefully convince him that he's better of with us if he wants to make/distribute a movie). Not to mention I'm still hopeful we can buy Marvel sooner rather than later.
Say @Magoose , can you tell us how the other Productions are doing? I mean, we should still have the Solomon Kane movie, the Dracula: Blood Origins movie, Hardcore, and All the Presidents Men. Has there been any problems with those, or have we possibly absorved all the bad luck.
Either way, we're going to have to spend a lot of time with her in order to counter how we weren't able to be there for her through one of the hardest periods of a woman's life.
Yeah my general mindset is for Bruce to make up for his absence by being a totally present father and supporting Carrie through the early infancy of their child. Basically take 1978 off from major work commitments and just let Bruce be a loving family man, something that'll be necessary because as Director of Empire Strikes Back he's going to have to focus on that a lot for '79. Good news on that at least is that aside from the Hoth stuff, all of Empire was filmed on set and we have our own studio lot so Bruce and Carrie will both be home for their kid for the majority of Empire and the Hoth stuff only took two weeks so Bruce won't be out of the country for that long. Although for Hoth here I want to film it in Hokkaido because the Norway filming was practically a deathtrap.
Don't really have anything that I would consider necessary for Bruce to appear in for the next year. Scorcese wants to do Passion of the Christ and Steve wants to do 1941, both of which are films that I don't think Bruce would fit well in. There is Brian but we can just give him something that Bruce isn't really crazy about. Only exception would be Batman because we'd have zero production responsibilities for that and the movie would be shot entirely on the Burbank lot so Bruce can still stay in LA. Though as I've said before I don't mind if Bruce misses Batman. He's already got four iconic roles under his belt and plenty of potential greats, even other superheroes in the future.
Well it could be worse. Apparently during filming of Empire Strikes Back, Mark Hamill's first child was born and during the day of his kid's birth, he had to go in and perform the stunt where he hangs on the cable of Cloud City for several hours while his wife was in labor. Needless to say that if the schedules are similar to OTL that we film all of Han and Leia's scenes then and give Mark time with his family.
But yeah poor Carrie. I guess it's a real good thing that we're not starring in Kung Fu Kid. Wonder if the filming being Bruce's second worst production is gonna make him lose his love for Conan. I can only imagine the guilt he feels for pushing for an adaptation of his favorite character while trying to start a family.
Yeah my general mindset is for Bruce to make up for his absence by being a totally present father and supporting Carrie through the early infancy of their child. Basically take 1978 off from major work commitments and just let Bruce be a loving family man, something that'll be necessary because as Director of Empire Strikes Back he's going to have to focus on that a lot for '79. Good news on that at least is that aside from the Hoth stuff, all of Empire was filmed on set and we have our own studio lot so Bruce and Carrie will both be home for their kid for the majority of Empire and the Hoth stuff only took two weeks so Bruce won't be out of the country for that long. Although for Hoth here I want to film it in Hokkaido because the Norway filming was practically a deathtrap.
I would've thought we could start Empire for 78', but perhaps it might be for the best. The first year for newborns is a tough one, and both Bruce and Carrie, as new parents, will need their constant support and aid if they're going to do it right. It's not going to help that the media will be hounding them like crazy as they will want to see the newest little gosling.
Don't really have anything that I would consider necessary for Bruce to appear in for the next year. Scorcese wants to do Passion of the Christ and Steve wants to do 1941, both of which are films that I don't think Bruce would fit well in. There is Brian but we can just give him something that Bruce isn't really crazy about. Only exception would be Batman because we'd have zero production responsibilities for that and the movie would be shot entirely on the Burbank lot so Bruce can still stay in LA. Though as I've said before I don't mind if Bruce misses Batman. He's already got four iconic roles under his belt and plenty of potential greats, even other superheroes in the future.
You know, we have the funds now, so we could also start our TV Studio and make the Star Wars Wnthology show "Star Wars Legends" ready as well. This would not be work that would tkae us far away. Plus, we can make deals in order to buy more properties to make into films, like Minority Report, and I'm sure we an serve as Executive Producers without having to leave as well.
Well it could be worse. Apparently during filming of Empire Strikes Back, Mark Hamill's first child was born and during the day of his kid's birth, he had to go in and perform the stunt where he hangs on the cable of Cloud City for several hours while his wife was in labor. Needless to say that if the schedules are similar to OTL that we film all of Han and Leia's scenes then and give Mark time with his family.
Ouch. Yeah, we have to avoid that this time around. I wonder if we'll make any change to the script? I mean, from what I remember, Harrison Ford did want Han to die in the movie, so they put him in Carbonite, but then they added that he was still alive in case he could be convinced to return for the next one. In this version, will there still be a need to put Han in carbonite?
But yeah poor Carrie. I guess it's a real good thing that we're not starring in Kung Fu Kid. Wonder if the filming being Bruce's second worst production is gonna make him lose his love for Conan. I can only imagine the guilt he feels for pushing for an adaptation of his favorite character while trying to start a family.
I hope not, there' so many adventures that could be done, and at the very least a good trilogy that we can make out of this property.
I'm still hoping for the appearance of Red Sonja in one of the movies so that we can make sure that horrible, horrible movie of OTL never sees the light of day.
You know, we have the funds now, so we could also start our TV Studio and make the Star Wars Wnthology show "Star Wars Legends" ready as well. This would not be work that would tkae us far away. Plus, we can make deals in order to buy more properties to make into films, like Minority Report, and I'm sure we an serve as Executive Producers without having to leave as well.
I would've thought we could start Empire for 78', but perhaps it might be for the best. The first year for newborns is a tough one, and both Bruce and Carrie, as new parents, will need their constant support and aid if they're going to do it right. It's not going to help that the media will be hounding them like crazy as they will want to see the newest little gosling.
I guess we can start filming at the start of winter for 1978 so November/December-ish. By then the Gosling would be a year old or nearly a year old and OTL Empire Strikes Back began on March 5th of 1979 so we'd still be heavily early on schedule, and perhaps a January shoot would be best. Probably some great advantages for releasing Empire around its OTL date, mainly because more people will be willing to stand in mile long lines when there's no snow filling the streets.
I highly doubt we're going to be filming in 1978 though because that's when George and Marcia have their kid as well. Say what you will about George, but even when his marriage was collapsing OTL he loved his daughter Amanda deeply and unconditionally and said that becoming a father was the greatest thing that ever happened to him and changed his life. He's undoubtedly going to experience the same emotions here and even if he's not in the Director's chair, as a new father who is going through the literal same exact stuff that Bruce is he's not gonna force him to jump the gun on Empire. Besides, Star Wars' greatest strength ITTL was the long ass preproduction, so doing so here will only repeat perfection.
You know, we have the funds now, so we could also start our TV Studio and make the Star Wars Wnthology show "Star Wars Legends" ready as well. This would not be work that would tkae us far away. Plus, we can make deals in order to buy more properties to make into films, like Minority Report, and I'm sure we an serve as Executive Producers without having to leave as well.
Yeah that was similar to what I was planning for Bruce's "Work" in 1978, mainly just investments and giving strategic direction for Lucasfilms to make some big plays. We already have regained enough money to return to our immediate post-Star Wars wealth and we're going to gain a shit ton of money from the merch sales. Next year let's build the tv division, do Legends and other shows, have Dreamworks start their first film and perhaps most importantly do networking to have Lucasfilms fund and distribute third party productions. We're 2 for 2 so far in such success such with All the President's Men and Dawn of the Dead, and while I still want us to stand for quality over quantity, there's still so much potential outside of the house that we can fulfill.
A bit of a crazy direction for this Quest to go into Producer Quest for a while, but it's still something I can enjoy because Bruce is making lots of of good original works and we're massively changing Hollywood.
Ouch. Yeah, we have to avoid that this time around. I wonder if we'll make any change to the script? I mean, from what I remember, Harrison Ford did want Han to die in the movie, so they put him in Carbonite, but then they added that he was still alive in case he could be convinced to return for the next one. In this version, will there still be a need to put Han in carbonite?
Yeah we have to be a Bro for Mark and help him through his early dad days and have the time spent with Marilou that Bruce was robbed of with Carrie. Empire also seemed to be a pretty rough spot for Mark. He got super depressed while filming the Dagobah stuff because he wasn't interacting with any human characters on set and got major discomfort and stunt injuries, not to mention his stress of being a father. Empire was honestly cursed and such a huge shitshow it made New Hope's issues be heavily tame in comparison. Carrie suffered from bronchitis and influenza along with her drug problems, and at least here the latter is definitively gone. Peter Mayhew became ill because he was filming the carbonite scenes basically wearing a fur suit in a sauna. The set kept on breaking down, the crew in Norway got multiple cases of frostbite and were severely ill or injured. It makes me praise the Lord that we managed to get our lot because one of the bonuses is completely removing all production troubles so aside from Hoth location shooting we should be golden.
Also reading about Mark's time in Empire made me gain a lot of respect and admiration for his wife Marilou. Apparently they were expecting their son to be born premature around when the Hoth filming began, and instead of staying home Marilou went to Norway with Mark with the two carrying around medical supplies and a teddy bear in case the worst happened, and thankfully the pregnancy went full term. Even still she was completely supportive of Mark and never blamed him for Star Wars commitments.
Wait, the carbonite scene was just another attempt by Ford to kill off Han?! Damn, that massively changes the game. I guess it's possible George can whip this up on his own, but here Bruce very much loves playing Han, is a producer and director for Star Wars and intends on playing Han til the end, especially so Han and Leia can have their happily, ever, after. Man, I wonder if the main emotional focus is just going to be on Luke and Vader and Luke losing his hand. The Luke drama and Han being encased in carbonite really did an excellent job at selling Empire's somber tone as the low point of the OT where the heroes reach their worst before rising up for victory. I hope we have a turn where we can come to a consensus on what Empire's script is gonna be about. Still want Han and Leia to have some sort of action stuff with the bounty hunters.
I hope not, there' so many adventures that could be done, and at the very least a good trilogy that we can make out of this property.
I'm still hoping for the appearance of Red Sonja in one of the movies so that we can make sure that horrible, horrible movie of OTL never sees the light of day.
Yeah I'm hoping the love isn't lost and we can make a trilogy by the end of the 80's, but if so it would not at all surprise me, and it would have in all likelihood been cemented with Conan being a one in done were it not for the Howard Estate's gift. At the very least I see it being subdued for the near future barring a Star Wars level success and fan adoration for the film after it releases. I guess in the end it all depends on how Carrie feels about it. If she's understanding and just happy Bruce is back then it'll be a small bump but if she's sad and hurt by his prolonged absence then that's gonna leave a nasty mark and sour Bruce's love for the story and memory of the film. Then again, once upon a time George was deadset that Return of the Jedi was the end of Star Wars and we all know what happened next.
Interviewer : And this is James Earl Jones ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for coming tonight. Have a seat.
James Earl Jones : My pleasure. I want to thank you for letting us come on tonight and letting us talk about our movie.
Interviewer : Now on your Latest film you have again delivered a Masterful performance and potentially topped your appearance as Darth Vader this time as Thusila Doom. What can you tell us about your role in the movie?
James Earl Jones :Well the role I play is similar. I mentally call Thusala Doom a prehistoric Darth Vader. He is the bad man, a sorcerer that causes much of the evil that Conan has to combat in the movie.
Interviewer : Did you find the experience repetitive?
James Earl Jones : No. Darth Vader was about two and half hours in a sound booth post production most of the work for Vader the physicality and motion, that was all David Prowse.
Interviewer : The iconic Darth Vader was a mere two hour work? It's your most iconic role so far.
James Earl Jones : Well, we didn't know what we had then. Thusala Doom has been a full roll and I had a long time practice my lines and get them right on set. As I said a significant portion of the credit for Vader is owed to David.
Interviewer : Moving on from your role as Vader, Where you referring to the Rumored Production difficulties?
James Earl Jones : It was a challenging production. On our arrival in Jordan, we found that some individuals had decided to make use of our set and had left it on poor condition. It took quite a bit of effort to get back on track. Initially Steven (Spielberg) had hoped to get all the shooting done in 70 days. That didn't happen. Still Steven kept in a good mood and got us back on track, saying it was a good Omen as a previous Blockbuster production of his, Jaws also had significant issues.
Jaws yes I loved that movie. Now there where some rumor's about Bruce O'Brian. I am told that with his attention split between the Main role of Conan and being executive producer as well as main financier he was difficult to work with on set. What can you tell us?
James Earl Jones : To be frank not a lot. We didn't end up interacting with each other much in fact apart for the scenes we where in together and some script readings I don't think we interacted at all.
Interviewer : But you look amazing on screen together surely that required a massive amount of coordination? Can we roll a Clip?
( clip rolls "It must have been when I was younger, there was a time boy when I searched for steel" ) clip finishes to cheering audience
Interviewer : That, that is what I am talking about. How can you both be so amazing in a scene and not spend hours or weeks together to so perfectly play off each other.
James Earl Jones :Bruce and I come from similar classically trained theater backgrounds and while I am no expert when it comes to action and stunts, I did get to spend quite a bit of time with Jackie Chan who is also extremely talented when it comes to action sequences. We ended up Trading exercise advice and some action tips for some tips on voice work, not that he needed much at all. Jackie is a very capable actor, and he will impress audiences as Subotai.
Interviewer : How does that relate to you working well with Bruce?
James Earl Jones : Jackie is also very good at coordinating stunts and waking you through what you need to do to be both safe and impressive on screen. Jackie also comes from the same stunt work background as Bruce's mentor Bruce Lee. I expect it is similar to how Some stage actors Just work magnificently together.
Interviewer : Is that it?
James Earl Jones : Either that or my Irish connection.
Interviewer : You have an Irish connection?
(deep laugh) My great, great grandmother was Irish so perhaps our shared heritage helped. Or perhaps it is the fact I also celebrate St Patrick's day.
Interviewer : You mean with the green hats and parades?
James Earl Jones :More like (James makes a drinking gesture) (audience Laughter)
Interviewer : Anyway back to the movie how did the experience of shooting go for you? How did you get into the headspace of Thusila Doom.
James Earl Jones : Much of Doom is based on my observations of real life cult leaders. We wanted a movie that felt like it could have happened and played our roles accordingly. you will notice the serous take that my Co Stars take on the material. this is a serous film with serous lessons for an audience to learn not a pulp remake to watch mindlessly.
Interviewer : Was it hard or an uncomfortable production for you?
James Earl Jones : As I mentioned I am a classically trained actor and have a better sense of my responsibilities on stage. However television is very very important for the whole world. I will say that I am perhaps more comfortable on stage.
Interviewer : Is there anything else you would like to share with us about the production.
James Earl Jones : This is going to be an important movie. I am not talking about what critics or audiences say but for what it represents. I believe It is picking up the sword, or lightsaber, from Star Wars and showing very important lessons you can learn, not for escape but from the past or the future or rather a writers imagination of those times and how the lessons shown on screen can be applied to the now. I also expect that it will do to Fantasy what Star Wars has Done to science fiction. Get interested and take the subject seriously. The sheer scale of these movies allows lessons to connect and be absorbed by audiences. That's the importance of Epic Drama. And while being from the stage, I won't compare it to Shakespeare for literature or drama but in terms of size.
Interviewer : Well that's all we have time for tonight. Thankyou James Earl Jones (cheering)
(Announcer voice: Coming up next… as camera pulls back showing a cheering crowd as James Earl Jones shakes hand with the host. )
Have an interviewer with an agenda be dealt with by the man himself. Sorry @Kaiser Chris I agree with @overmind that it would indeed be funnier if they kept missing each other.
Man the research for this one took a life of its own. I had no idea that James Earl Jones traded line reading options for him in return for workout tips from Schwarzenegger.
You know, we have the funds now, so we could also start our TV Studio and make the Star Wars Wnthology show "Star Wars Legends" ready as well. This would not be work that would tkae us far away. Plus, we can make deals in order to buy more properties to make into films, like Minority Report, and I'm sure we an serve as Executive Producers without having to leave as well.
I disagree with this, I mean I love Star Wars Anthologirs like Legends or Visions... BUT I would finish the Original Trilogy before doing any series in that format, I prefer having a well established lore to build upon before expanding it...
Oh that's simply awful, really wish I did something to autopass those two disaster rolls. Were it any other movie this could be manageable but during the midst of Carrie's first pregnancy this was probably the worst thing that could have happened. Since it's a five month shoot and we left in May can that mean that we arrive back in October?
hat gives us at least two months left since Carrie conceived some time in May and Bruce would at least be there somewhat instead of being completely devastated. Real shame, I had a decent amount of pregnancy and parenthood omakes planned and some other cool stuff like the 1977 World Series which had the Yankees play against the Dodgers.
Well it could be worse. There could have been a huge ass delay last turn that could have pushed it to another turn, and that would mean we'd arrive home right before Carrie gives birth, and it would be a race to the hospital... or home, if she wants to hire a midwife.
Actually, you did. It's part of the reason I didn't want to show the production roll.
They are suing you for building on the concert ground they had paid for first in 75 for a world tour. That the Jordanian Government conveniently did not tell us about. Mostly because they had thought that the concert was already done... instead of being delayed to the very end of their world tour.
Actually, Carrie thinks that Steve somehow caused it... though that was before she learned about the unholy hell that our production went, and the trouble that it caused.
And let me tell you, she was about ready to pack up and join us, before Debbie decided to come in and calm her down, and tell her that everything like that always happens. Also that Bruce needed to get through this shit on his own so that he can understand that he cannot have control over everything...
Brian broke his leg during a shoot, but he managed to get it splinted into place, finish the days shoot, and come back with a cast, where he hired to locals to just carry him and his camera around during the rest of filming.
Yeah my general mindset is for Bruce to make up for his absence by being a totally present father and supporting Carrie through the early infancy of their child.
Good news on that at least is that aside from the Hoth stuff, all of Empire was filmed on set and we have our own studio lot so Bruce and Carrie will both be home for their kid for the majority of Empire and the Hoth stuff only took two weeks so Bruce won't be out of the country for that long.
. There is Brian but we can just give him something that Bruce isn't really crazy about. Only exception would be Batman because we'd have zero production responsibilities for that and the movie would be shot entirely on the Burbank lot so Bruce can still stay in LA. Though as I've said before I don't mind if Bruce misses Batman. He's already got four iconic roles under his belt and plenty of potential greats, even other superheroes in the future.
Well it could be worse. Apparently during filming of Empire Strikes Back, Mark Hamill's first child was born and during the day of his kid's birth, he had to go in and perform the stunt where he hangs on the cable of Cloud City for several hours while his wife was in labor. Needless to say that if the schedules are similar to OTL that we film all of Han and Leia's scenes then and give Mark time with his family.
But yeah poor Carrie. I guess it's a real good thing that we're not starring in Kung Fu Kid. Wonder if the filming being Bruce's second worst production is gonna make him lose his love for Conan. I can only imagine the guilt he feels for pushing for an adaptation of his favorite character while trying to start a family.
A bit of a crazy direction for this Quest to go into Producer Quest for a while, but it's still something I can enjoy because Bruce is making lots of of good original works and we're massively changing Hollywood.
Wait, the carbonite scene was just another attempt by Ford to kill off Han?! Damn, that massively changes the game. I guess it's possible George can whip this up on his own, but here Bruce very much loves playing Han, is a producer and director for Star Wars and intends on playing Han til the end, especially so Han and Leia can have their happily, ever, after. Man, I wonder if the main emotional focus is just going to be on Luke and Vader and Luke losing his hand. The Luke drama and Han being encased in carbonite really did an excellent job at selling Empire's somber tone as the low point of the OT where the heroes reach their worst before rising up for victory. I hope we have a turn where we can come to a consensus on what Empire's script is gonna be about. Still want Han and Leia to have some sort of action stuff with the bounty hunters.
Well the thing is... Lawrence Kasdan... hates Han Solo, and wants to kill him off, as his arc was fully completed, and wants to add far more stakes to the drama and the story.
Don't worry, he will be here, and it will come up.
. I guess in the end it all depends on how Carrie feels about it. If she's understanding and just happy Bruce is back then it'll be a small bump but if she's sad and hurt by his prolonged absence then that's gonna leave a nasty mark and sour Bruce's love for the story and memory of the film. Then again, once upon a time George was deadset that Return of the Jedi was the end of Star Wars and we all know what happened next.
Ahh... James Earl Jones is Great. and he's so wholesome.
[]James Proves He's a Master Performer (+20 to SP and Chemistry)
[]And James finally laughs at the joke (Autopass James Action)
[]The Media blitz (Mike will be pleased. +40 to Critic and Audience Roll)
@Magoose [x]James Proves He's a Master Performer (+20 to SP and Chemistry)
This looks like the result we get if we somehow manage to avoid James Earl Jones on set so the Joke can continue. If so this one please.
As for he other two options, we are already dropping vast amounts of money into marketing and for the joke to work we need to Not take the action to Meet Him.
And I should vote to back up the Joke
[X] Plan Dewey Decimal System
I kid of course, but I assume that we are at least in their list of who could play the Batman.
...Just on the off chance we are able to, will we be able to change the script or at least give suggestions on where to take the film? OTL Batman's reputation was a bit...not damaged, but it was skewed more towards the side that had seen and enjoyed Adam West as the Batman. It took Tim Burton and his darker tone to shift it.
Well the thing is... Lawrence Kasdan... hates Han Solo, and wants to kill him off, as his arc was fully completed, and wants to add far more stakes to the drama and the story.
Well, but that was OTL Han Solo, not this one where we've given hints that there is something else behind him besides profit. Still, I'm not against the whole "Han being trapped in Carbonite", just against killing him off in the Original Trilogy.
