Lights... Camera... ACTION!!: A Hollywood Quest

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT
Hi Magoose here one of the guys helping Duke.

So we have some bad news.

The quest has been canceled as duke does not want to write it anymore.

I'm going to ask if I can take over for it, because I like this quest, and it would be a shame to kill it
TBF, Mags, you have been doing a lot of the heavylifting for the quest, so this will be in good hands. :)

To be clear to everyone, this is just me burning out on imagination of the quest, since my muse has been hitting me over the head a lot with so many different ideas that I just can't find myself too interested in this.

I'll still hang out here, though, since this still does have a sepcial place in my heart.

I'd like to thank you all for making this a wonderful experience while it lasted.

I'd also like to thank @Magoose, @Fluffy_serpent, and @Martin Noctis for doing so much to help prepare and write this quest. I couldn't have done it without you all. :D

I'll see you all around.

With so many regards, Duke William Of.
 
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With Halloween so successful it's only inevitable that Lucasfilm make their own slasher movie in response to it. I once again advocate for recruiting Sean S. Cunningham to make a smarter version of Friday the 13th. A film that Betsy Palmer would be proud to have on her resume. Especially if it means the possibility of recruiting Savini for the horror effects branch of ILM.
I like the Friday the 13th series, so as long as we keep making quality movies, and make sure the scripts are of better quality, then I'm willing to support this. Perhaps with better scripts we can avoid that whole fiasco of "The Curse of Michael Meyers".

Should we try to get Romero? Dawn of the Dead is not done until 1978, we could make it a Lucasfilms movie.
 
Gotta love how literally right after Lucasfilms becomes a proper peer to the establishment and gets a shit ton of bonuses through their new purchases the other companies finally give their shit together and are making great films to ensure that the 70's isn't just a Lucasfilms dominance decade. Honestly don't mind Magoose Dice pumping a balance patch as it'll give us more drive to create superior art and the public is going to have a diversity of excellent films to choose from. Bring it on!
Oh yeah it's all coming together. The simple problem is when the 80s roll around… things will be needed.
On the one hand, it's Batman, and for all that I'm a Marvel fan, i ahve to recognize the awesomeness of Batman.

On the other hand..it's K.K.

...Damn it.
The Monkey paw curled a finger.
Okay, this is either bullshit or Kubrick has suddenly gained the patronage of the Eldritch Beings beyond the curtain! No way in hell can he be his obsessive hiper controlling self without any kind of blowback from Universal or the actors
No he just did the impossible.

He managed to control his own focus. And it is all better for it.
It's unbelievable it's what it is, but apparently the fact that a recently formed studio managed to create the greatest movie of all time has scared them enough to actually work together to face this new threat, is the only way I can see this happening
Yep.
Btw that isn't the audience rolls that is for their animation quality. Ducking god tier.
Black Hole will get the respect it deserves in this timeline.
No. No. No. No! NO! NO! NO
That is for Disneys support for John Carpenter after he showed his script to them. And they said for a million bucks do whatever the fick you want.
…Arnold and the Predator Franchise do crossovers in the 80's and we get a good AvP movie that lets Arnold become an actual threat
Highly possible.
So these rolls mean that Alien and Halloween are as good as they are as in real life, right? That's bad for us but great for audiances everywhere... those films are masterpieces that deserve to preserve their legendary status and quality.
Kinda.

Alien, oh hell yes.

Halloween… no that was for Disney not fucking around.
This world has created a new age of amazing films for audiences everywhere. And all it took was giving visionaires what they needed, look for good quality in films, and burn down one of the rotten pillars of old Hollywood in order to give way to the young new film makers and mavericks. Not to mention that actors, directors and producers have manged to get better protection from studios in a time where such a thing does matter.

...Damn it, we're living in the worst timeline, aren't we?
No we live in the second worst.

The worsts is when I am not the QM here, on this quest continuing where everything was left off.
With Halloween so successful it's only inevitable that Lucasfilm make their own slasher movie in response to it. I once again advocate for recruiting Sean S. Cunningham to make a smarter version of Friday the 13th. A film that Betsy Palmer would be proud to have on her resume. Especially if it means the possibility of recruiting Savini for the horror effects branch of ILM.
I'd recommend reading above.
 
No he just did the impossible.

He managed to control his own focus. And it is all better for it.
...I should be angry, I should be in a state of unbelief.

So why is it that all I can think of is the amazing movies he's going to be making from now on.
Btw that isn't the audience rolls that is for their animation quality. Ducking god tier.
That's no surprise. Say what you will about Dinsey, they always had excellent animation. There is a reason why they set the standard.
Black Hole will get the respect it deserves in this timeline.
What could they actually do to make it better? Black Hole, from its inception, was doomed to fail. It had no undertsanding on what it wanted to be as a film, it had multiple writers trying to make changes, and it was trying to use the latest technology without understanding on where it would be better to just go with regular technology.

It was a freaking mess, what the heck did Disney do?
That is for Disneys support for John Carpenter after he showed his script to them. And they said for a million bucks do whatever the fick you want.
Well, at least support for Carpenter and Live Action means less support for Animation. Ron Disney's movie can only at best keep it alive, not renewed or remodelled.
Alien, oh hell yes.

Halloween… no that was for Disney not fucking around.
Alien as the flagship of Fox. Is it me, or are many studios turning to horror lately?
I'd recommend reading above.
I still like the Friday the 13 Franchise, so perhaps we can get it and properly develope it.

Magoose, can we still get George Romero to work with us in his zombie movie?
 
Yes, the thing is, said shows (at least the Doctor Strage attempt and the Captain America movies) where...not that good let's call it. I reserve judgement on the Incredible Hulk and Spider-Man as I've only seen the movies made from said shows, and they were, while not outright horrible, not compelling to continue watching more of the show. At some points I was just watching the movie because it was "So bad that it's good". I would prefer that, if we go for the TV Live Action adaptations, that we give them the technology to make it more real, and perhaps try with more ground level heroes that don't need that many special effects to make it good.

Captain America and Doctor Strange tv films were pretty crap and while Incredible Hulk and Spider-Man are dated by MCU standards, they're still pretty decent all things considered with their main strength being in character focused stories with Nicholas Hammond's Peter being more of a slice of life with some mild superheroic drama and Incredible Hulk showing Bruce Banner traveling across the country and helping and connecting to common people, basically Quantum Leap with superheroes. You have to remember that both shows were not only incredibly popular, but regarded as groundbreaking for their action and stunt scenes. If they're Lucasfilms productions then we have high tier action thanks to the Bruce Lee school and we can let Marvel dabble in a shared universe on their own before making a proper MCU. Would also be neat to have Nicholas Hammond be recognized as the OG live action Spiderman and appear in cameos in the other movies or maybe a proper multiversal part like you have Old Peter show up in Spiderverse or No Way Home.

Also considering Duke's Noir pitch and Japanese Spider-Man showing a definitively different Spider-Man can be successful and fun, part of me is hoping that Stan Lee conceives of the Spiderverse in the 80s so we can have standalone comics of different versions of Spider-Man and can have solo alternate runs of heroes so that all kinds of stories and narratives can be explored without having to worry about the rest of 616.

I like that idea, though I would prefer Robin to make an appearance first as he is the oldest sidekick after all. At this time, it should still be Dick Grayson, as I think Jason Todd was introduced in 1983. Barbara as the first sidekick however would be interesting, it reminds me of the time in Batman the Animated Series when Tim Drake was first introduced and Batgirl was already present there.

Yeah I wouldn't mind introducing Dick in the first movie as well and have him come in the second or third. Although if Barbara is set up first it's not too great of a leap in logic or an irrational decision by Kennedy as Batgirl was a fan favorite of the Adam West series and at this time had some decent appearances in the comics.

That's no surprise. Say what you will about Dinsey, they always had excellent animation. There is a reason why they set the standard.
What could they actually do to make it better? Black Hole, from its inception, was doomed to fail. It had no undertsanding on what it wanted to be as a film, it had multiple writers trying to make changes, and it was trying to use the latest technology without understanding on where it would be better to just go with regular technology.

It was a freaking mess, what the heck did Disney do?

I think here the writing for Black Hole went much smoother with a singular tone and vision for what the story was about and what kind of audience they were going for. As for special effects, no doubt Disney decided to contract with ILM because as much as they would hate the idea of giving George and his Magicians money, they know that they're the only people who could give the film the effects it deserves. OTL Disney was set to contract ILM but they were too cheap and thought they could do it in-house without the infrastructure. Here with Star Wars being how it is, they need the ILM guarantee to cross the finish line.
 
I have a really silly scenario in my head…

Meanwhile in 1994.

John Millus: hey Greg I like this Gargoyles show you got, all the myths and Shakespeare is an inspired choice.

Greg Wiseman: Thanks John, though your looking at me like you want to throw in something the Disney Writers room won't like.

John: Right you are…I added in Lovecraft elements, and asked Steven (King) for some fresh ideas.

Greg: oh no…it's either gonna work or I am so, in Troy for this.
 
Captain America and Doctor Strange tv films were pretty crap and while Incredible Hulk and Spider-Man are dated by MCU standards, they're still pretty decent all things considered with their main strength being in character focused stories with Nicholas Hammond's Peter being more of a slice of life with some mild superheroic drama and Incredible Hulk showing Bruce Banner traveling across the country and helping and connecting to common people, basically Quantum Leap with superheroes. You have to remember that both shows were not only incredibly popular, but regarded as groundbreaking for their action and stunt scenes. If they're Lucasfilms productions then we have high tier action thanks to the Bruce Lee school and we can let Marvel dabble in a shared universe on their own before making a proper MCU. Would also be neat to have Nicholas Hammond be recognized as the OG live action Spiderman and appear in cameos in the other movies or maybe a proper multiversal part like you have Old Peter show up in Spiderverse or No Way Home.

Also considering Duke's Noir pitch and Japanese Spider-Man showing a definitively different Spider-Man can be successful and fun, part of me is hoping that Stan Lee conceives of the Spiderverse in the 80s so we can have standalone comics of different versions of Spider-Man and can have solo alternate runs of heroes so that all kinds of stories and narratives can be explored without having to worry about the rest of 616.
Huh, you don't say? I knew Bill Bixby was in the series as well as Lou Ferrigno, and I watched the TV Movies, but there really wasn't much chance to see the series back in my country, or if there were then I never saw it. If it's as good as you say then perhaps there is a good chance to actually make said series truly great as a connected TV Universe. Solonga s we include the other grounded heroe as well. This could allow us to bring different genres in Superhero TV shows.

Quite a fascinating idea. Marvel already has the idea of the Multiverse existing, and their What If...? series to explore it, but the whole Spider-Man Noir theme is a complete departure, which could allow for the creation of an entire new line of comics: The Noir comics where we see all our heroes of old reimagined for a 30s setting! Can you imagine it? Iron Man Noir, the Punisher Noir, Luke Cage Noir, the Fantastic Four Noir, etc., etc. It gives for a rebirth in pulp using Marvel!
I think here the writing for Black Hole went much smoother with a singular tone and vision for what the story was about and what kind of audience they were going for. As for special effects, no doubt Disney decided to contract with ILM because as much as they would hate the idea of giving George and his Magicians money, they know that they're the only people who could give the film the effects it deserves. OTL Disney was set to contract ILM but they were too cheap and thought they could do it in-house without the infrastructure. Here with Star Wars being how it is, they need the ILM guarantee to cross the finish line.
The Black Hole was a copy of Star Wars to begin with, so using ILM at the same time just makes that look even more like a copy. The again, they could've gone the comedy route and made it a satire. Or perhaps they actually banged their heads together and decided not to copy Star Wars to begin with.

They could've decided to copy Star Trek.
 
the Fantastic Four Noir
So, um, not to spoil too much about what Crimson, Orion, and I(Crimson planned most if not all of this, actually) plan for the Fantastic Four Noir, but...

A secret government taskforce ala Mission Impossible and James Bond sent to take care of both natural and unnatural problems. Featuring villains such as Red Ghost, Mole Man, Mad Thinker, Wizard, and of course...

DOCTOR DOOM

To spoil what I plan for the Punisher, I plan for him to be an antagonist during either season 3 or 4 of Spider Noir, him taking up the mantle of the Punisher due to the gang war that triggers between the major crime families that results in the deaths of his entire family besides himself.

Also, this Noir takes place in the 50s. :V
 
A good show to make would be a dark deconstruction of Star Trek would be a show that starts out looking like a Trek clone with a seemingly utopian "Federation" that would slowly reveal its dark side over time. Which would lead to the crew of the "Enterprise" turning from the "Federation" after overpowering the "true believers" and jettisoning them from the ship.

The "Federation" would have all the creepy authoritarian elements unintentionally introduced in later Trek. They'd basically embody every bit of criticism SFDebris ever had for the Federation.

The show proper would have the crew of the Not-Enterprise be lead by a Janeway-expy, who is a senior science officer forced to take up the mantle of Captain because the bridge crew were either killed or jettisoned in a lifepod/shuttle. With the Captain Kirk expy serving as a recurring adversary for the crew. He'd basically be Zapp Brannigan but not played for laughs and a serious threat.
 
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To spoil what I plan for the Punisher, I plan for him to be an antagonist during either season 3 or 4 of Spider Noir, him taking up the mantle of the Punisher due to the gang war that triggers between the major crime families that results in the deaths of his entire family besides himself.

Also, this Noir takes place in the 50s. :V
Well, it's your decision.

Though personally, i feel the Noir stories and adaptation would work much better in the 30's. I mean, the 50s are not that far away from the 60s, when the Marvel stories were originally introduced, so not much would have changed. But the difference between the 30s and 60s is massive, and not only in years, but attitudes, culture, beliefs. This is the time of Isolationist America, where the world was shrinking but there was still a chance of the fantastic and the undiscovered still lurking somewhere. This was the period of the Great Recession and Prohibition, where the specter of War loomed but no one knew how bad it could get.

All I'm saying is that Noir lends itself better for the 30s rather than the 50s.
 
Poor Paramount, without Mike Eisner they don't even get a roll. They are relegated to butt monkey status.
 
Wait hold on, the way things are going for Disney, Ron Miller might not get ousted in 84 then. And even if they did, who the hell would replace him since we've got Mike in our corner?
 
John Carpenter having a considerably higher budget and zero interference from Disney higher-ups gives me the impression that Halloween will likely be pretty damn great.

Personally I want to see Star Trek Phase II be released so we can justify making a dark deconstruction series in response to it.
 
...I should be angry, I should be in a state of unbelief.

So why is it that all I can think of is the amazing movies he's going to be making from now on.
Currently, his film quality is around 200.

You bet your ass he managed to do it.
That's no surprise. Say what you will about Dinsey, they always had excellent animation. There is a reason why they set the standard.
And it will maintain the standerd of excellence until Pixar can do something to dethrone it.
What could they actually do to make it better? Black Hole, from its inception, was doomed to fail. It had no undertsanding on what it wanted to be as a film, it had multiple writers trying to make changes, and it was trying to use the latest technology without understanding on where it would be better to just go with regular technology.

It was a freaking mess, what the heck did Disney do?
Easy.

They decided to throw everything away, and made it about the awesome power of a blackhole, and trying to stop it.

Yes, they decided to go full fucking Sci-Fi.
Well, at least support for Carpenter and Live Action means less support for Animation. Ron Disney's movie can only at best keep it alive, not renewed or remodelled.
its a competition between low budget artistry, and the legacy of Walt Disney.

And let me say this, oh boy will that be a fucking show down.
Alien as the flagship of Fox. Is it me, or are many studios turning to horror lately?
Most likely.
Magoose, can we still get George Romero to work with us in his zombie movie?
You can certianly ask, but George Romero is not about to let Dawn of the Dead see the Editors ax.
I think here the writing for Black Hole went much smoother with a singular tone and vision for what the story was about and what kind of audience they were going for. As for special effects, no doubt Disney decided to contract with ILM because as much as they would hate the idea of giving George and his Magicians money, they know that they're the only people who could give the film the effects it deserves. OTL Disney was set to contract ILM but they were too cheap and thought they could do it in-house without the infrastructure. Here with Star Wars being how it is, they need the ILM guarantee to cross the finish line.
That and they went full fucking sci fi on their premise of "Lets stop and destroy a fucking Black hole"
The Black Hole was a copy of Star Wars to begin with, so using ILM at the same time just makes that look even more like a copy. The again, they could've gone the comedy route and made it a satire. Or perhaps they actually banged their heads together and decided not to copy Star Wars to begin with.

They could've decided to copy Star Trek.
see above.
Wait hold on, the way things are going for Disney, Ron Miller might not get ousted in 84 then. And even if they did, who the hell would replace him since we've got Mike in our corner?
lets say this.

If and when Mike Eisner leaves Lucasfilms, everyone is going to bend over backwards to hire him, because he's the man who made Lucasfilms.

What can he do at a place with actual money and power?
Imagine if he got to do the Anthology series he originally wanted instead of focusing solely on Michael?
He might.
 
Birth of a Universe
Birth of a Universe

For Stan Lee, Head of Marvel, the man who birthed the Marvel Universe, and the man who kept it from becoming a stagnant force, taking it to heights capable to competing with DC Comics itself, nothing should have been impossible when it came to comics. He'd based the entire campaign on Marvel under that same ideology; "The House of Ideas" he'd called it, making sure to always promote the image of a man who could outthink, outproduce, and outsmart his rivals when it came to making new content for any and all of the comics that Marvel produced.

And yet, how easy one forgot that's what it was originally; a campaign, publicity, hype to better sell Marvel. Oh he'd made sure to innovate and create new and interesting characters for sure, Stan could proudly say he'd had a hand in making nearly every one of the characters that had become the powerhouses of Marvel, with Spider-Man being the flagship and favorite of nearly everyone who read it. The one character that could rival Superman in sales if anything. But he'd also forgotten how he hadn't done it alone. How in the end he'd managed it with the help of those who lent their talent in making his idea a reality.

Men like Jack, who was working with him once more, and with whom he was trying to rebuild a friendship long forgotten.

It's just like Joan said 'You couldn't have done it without Jack'. Smartest woman in the world indeed.

He'd been trying, God knows he was. But at the same time there were still those differences, those disagreements between them that while not as straining as before, still managed to put a wedge into their new interactions. From distinct styles for the comics, to the different dialogues used, and even that new series Jack wanted to do in order to finish some newfangled "New and Old Gods" saga that he started with DC of all things. Stan was all for giving him his "Eternals" pitch the good college try, but when the sales were down then that was a clear sign that the buyers were not interested. He'd refrained from cancelling it outright and instead reduced it to a monthly to Bi-Monthly series, but that was as far as he could go.

And then came the big one; Jack wanted to draw for Spider-Man. Claimed he had ideas he wanted to put to the page, as well as a new vision for the character. There was a time when Stan had been given the choice to have him draw for the character, but even then, he saw that his talents just were not made for what was supposed to be an underdog. The drawings were too heroic, more for the style of Captain America than for a bumbling teen.

Should I let him try? That was Stan's big query, one that he still somewhat agonized when it came to his creation. It was moments like these that he needed some distraction, something to take the pressure off until he could think with a clear head. And as always, he found it with his greatest passion: writing.

So many fans usually write to Marvel, he encouraged actually. All the better to have a finger in the beating pulse for the comic book community's ever-changing tastes. He even wrote back to some of them, all the better to create a new connection with a true believer, and to thank them for their continuing support. And truth be told, he liked these small conversations he had, it never failed to put a smile on his face.

It was after one of the latest replies (mostly another about Sue Richards and the Sub-Mariner) when one of the recent letters caught his eye. Now, this one was different, but not strange in itself. It was a letter suggesting a prompt, a small pitch in a small letter. It was nothing new, as fans usually sent this kind of pitches hoping to see them come true, or that some writer might take a liking and make them a reality. What was odd was how they mixed the correspondence as this should have clearly been in the Spider-Man pile, rather than the Fantastic Four.

Still, a quick read before putting it in its place gave Stan one of those moments when creativity just hits you over the head, and all it took was eight simple letters:
What if Spider-Man lived in the 30s?

A simple phrase, something innocuous that perhaps could have been turned into a What if...? story. The entire premise was perfectly encapsulated in that simple sentence.

But Stan wondered...what if Spider-Man lived in the 30s? What if his entire cast lived there? How would the villains change? Would Norman Osborn still be his greatest enemy? Would the Kingpin take his place? Would Daredevil exist? What about the Hulk, or Thor, or even Captain America? How would the Fantastic Four exist? What if, what if, what if...?

Without notice, Stan had spent nearly an entire hour plotting, writing in small bits of paper, trying to make sense of this newfound inspiration that ran through his body. Each time a new idea came he would try to put it to paper, each time one of the old characters crossed his mind he would try and reimagine him in the old 30s style of heroics, the style that inspired the creation of Superheroes.

The style of Pulp!

It was too much; he could see it once he took a step back and noticed his entire desk now littered with nearly all the paper he had. It was not finished either, he could deal with a character or two, but he would need more, more writers, more artists, he would need someone who understood the Marvel Universe as it is and its intricacies.

He would need Jack.

Taking all the papers with him he ran out of his office, looking for his old friend, and soon introducing him to anew universe of Marvel, a world of heroes reimagined for another age, of a fantastic world before the war broke so many of their illusion, a world that could be brought back in a new line showing once more the fun of the Pulp genre.

A new universe that would come to be known as Marvel Noir.

A.N.: Reading the pitches that Duke William of wrote inspired me to make this. Stan Lee is a flawed man, but he's certainly no monster, and I've tried showing this here. He's had his strong and weak points, and he's clearly trying to do better for his friends while also keeping a balance with Marvel's own finances, I hope this comes out clearly. The idea of a line of Marvel, reimagining the Super Heroes as 30s Pulp heroes is one that's been sticking in my mind and I wanted to show how the process could've come about. Besides, this would allow for Jack to get more credit for his work, and to draw for many of them as well since his heroic style better suits the 30s aesthetics in my opinion.
 
Well all i can say we might be in for a Renaissance in Hollywood or entertainment in general so thats good. Our rivals saw our succes and decide to step up insted of drown
 
Guys, I just discovered that Bakshi can still do his Lord of the Rings movie, and that Rankin Bass can still do their Hobbit movie as well.

What we bought from United Artists were the International Rights for the films, as well as the official license to make the movies. However, due to American copyright and trademark law of the 70s, the Lord of the Rings and the Hobbit are in the public domain in the United States, if not outside of it. And said Copyright law will not be fixed until 1994.

So, if I understand this correctly, this means that as long as Bakshi or Rankin Bass do not try for an international theatrical release, they can make movies of the material and distribute it inside the U.S., even if they will not be official adaptations. Our movies can be done and distributed inside and outside of the U.S., so that's something.

Which means, Jackson will still have his moment where he's inspired to make a Lord of the Rings movie. And we're probably going to be hounded by Bakshi to let him make a Lord of the Rings film as the man was obsessed with it (and we should say no because no matter how revolutionary it may be, it's still not something we want Lucasfilms name to be attached to!). Once we refuse him enough times he very well may try to do it on his own.

At least there won't be a Return of the King animated movie since Warner went under.
 
I will say the one thing that concerns me about Bruce auditioning for Batman is the optics of him playing Batman and filming with the birth of his and Carrie's kid. With Carrie finding out her pregnancy in April we have to assume that the conception took place in March and thus our Gosling is gonna be born in December/January if the pregnancy goes to full term and isn't premature in birth. My plan for next year was for Bruce to dedicate a couple of months to paternity leave to be a good dad and then film something lowkey and local like one of Debbie's movies so we won't be invested in a heavy blockbuster and can be a present Dad. If we play Batman then we're gonna be beholden to Columbia's schedule and unless they do a full year of pre-production to get the perfect movie like George with Star Wars and focus first on Superman production then we would be working during either Carrie's third trimester or our kid's first months of life when we're already going to miss Carrie's second trimester with Conan.

Hopefully everything works out in scheduling but just something to keep in mind and part of why if we don't get Batman then I won't be too disappointed.
 
Considering overmind's omake, I figured I would elaborate more on the potential future of the Spider-Man Noir series I and Crimson have planned out.

For season 2, we'll bring more focus to the gangs of New York and the big bosses of crime: Wilson Fisk/Big Man, Adrian Toomes/Vulture, Zebediah Kilgrave/Purple Man, L. Thompson Lincoln/Tombstone, Silvio Manfredi/Silvermane, Hammerhead, and Otto Octavius/Doctor Octopus, who took over Norman Osborn's gang after the latter's death. Leland Owlsley serves as their accountant ala Meyer Lansky.

At the end of season 2 and start of season 3, a violent gang war ensues as the big bosses vie for dominance. To make matters worse, the mysterious wildcard Hobgoblin has entered the fray with only devastation and domination seemingly on his mind.

Season 4 will focus on the aftermath of the gang war as new players flock in to take advantage of the holes in power, as well as the Hobgoblin asserting his

Season 5, the last season will focus on the Clone Saga, with Jessica Drew, Kaine, and Ben Reilly featuring as the main, if not only, clones.

In terms of characters that'll be no-shows, Carnage is the only real character I've committed to not adapting. Cletus, maybe, but not the symbiote.

Edit: Also, I have this weired thought bubble of a movie featuring a very nerfed non-multiverse involved Morlun as the main villain in a similar way Doomsday is to Superman. :V

For a potential Daredevil Noir show, it would take on a far more mystical approach as Matt Murdock would mostly fight the Hand, which Iron Fist could fit handily into. We haven't talked at length abiut it, since Spider-Man is the current focus, but one of the characters that will most likely appear would be Cindy Moon/Silk, this version being a child assassin with mystical spider powers trained from a young age by the Hand before being saved by Daredevil. Basically think Lone Wolf and Baby Cub, except with the Wolf, who is struggling to grapple with his own morality, is desperately trying to explain to the Cub why they can't just kill people willy nilly.
 
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Basically think Lone Wolf and Baby Cub, except with the Wolf, who is struggling to grapple with his own morality, is desperately trying to explain to the Cub why they can't just kill people willy nilly.
"Matt...why is there a kid on the couch- you didn't kidnap her, did you?!"

"Hey Foggy...no. Well...no. No, definitely didn't kidnap her."

"Matt, what the f-"

"She let herself in, something about a bride fighting off a spider? Also, Language! There's impressionables present."
 
Well I got one more bit of Trolling before the next update tonight.

Meanwhile:
D100 => 97

Well now… this is interesting.

Who in their right mind would do that kind of investment.

Edit: It's George. The only one who would do that is George.
 
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