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    • Magoose said:
    Hi Magoose here one of the guys helping Duke.

    So we have some bad news.

    The quest has been canceled as duke does not want to write it anymore.

    I'm going to ask if I can take over for it, because I like this quest, and it would be a shame to kill it
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    TBF, Mags, you have been doing a lot of the heavylifting for the quest, so this will be in good hands. :)

    To be clear to everyone, this is just me burning out on imagination of the quest, since my muse has been hitting me over the head a lot with so many different ideas that I just can't find myself too interested in this.

    I'll still hang out here, though, since this still does have a sepcial place in my heart.

    I'd like to thank you all for making this a wonderful experience while it lasted.

    I'd also like to thank @Magoose, @Fluffy_serpent, and @Martin Noctis for doing so much to help prepare and write this quest. I couldn't have done it without you all. :D

    I'll see you all around.

    With so many regards, Duke William Of.
     
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    • I think it's b/c that so many superhero movies were released in the last decade and Warners abysmal handling of DC has made many people burnt out & heavily biased against it.
     
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    Volkoff122 said:
    I think it's b/c that so many superhero movies were released in the last decade and Warners abysmal handling of DC has made many people burnt out & heavily biased against it.
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    Maybe, but come on Christopher Reeves Superman was awesome, and the same with Tim Burton's Batman

    And it gives us access to the bestvgraphic novels and limited comic series of all time: Watchmen, V for Vendetta, Hellblazer, Sandman, Fables, etc.
     
    Also, getting DC not only allows us access to the insane merchandising and the movie it does something awesome: it keeps them out of Universal's hands.

    The worst case is not Universal screwing up Superman, the worst case is universal rolling awesome in Superman and getting a hole new series of movies to make huge profits off of. The more money they have, the worse it is for us.

    This is why I don't get the entire buying of $60 million dollars worth of old movies as chaff to try and trick Universal. Assuming it works, they may still come out massively ahead in the deal merely because we didn't even bid on DC. Spending $60 million on a far off shot while not even willing to spend a minimum bid to prevent a more likely outcome doesn't make sense.

    You want to get ahead of Universal? Buy DC Comics to make huge profit and prevent those profits from going to them.
     
    Adhoc vote count started by Whenyouseeyou on Jul 1, 2023 at 3:30 PM, finished with 87 posts and 29 votes.
    • [X] Plan Looney Lucas
      -[X]Warner Animation (The Loony Toons): The Classic Looney Toons characters are all a packaged deal, just as they were when Schlesinger studios was bought up by Warner when he came in. There is no doubt about it, they are among the most popular cartoon characters in the world. And they carry with them the price tag of success. (Minimum bid on The Loony Toons must begin at 50 million. Gain all the Loony Toons characters, and the rights to their shorts, TV show, and other marketing and promotional material.) $150 Million
      -[X]Dirty Harry: Clint Eastwood crowning Jewel of Urban crime drama, as well as the best action movie in years. It's more of a personal favor for Clint to get his baby back into his hands. And the fact he may owe you a great many favors. $50 Million
      -[X]THX 1138: George has said that he wants his film back, and wants to give it the release it deserves. Also, you think he deserves a nice gift when he comes back from Vacation? $60 Million
      -[X] Enter the Dragon: $15 Million
      -[X] A Streetcar named Desire: $1 MIllion
      -[X] Rebel without a Cause: $5 Million
      -[X] East of Eden: $5 Million
      -[X] Giant: $5 Million
      -[X] Cassablanca: $10 Million
      -[X] The Maltese Falcon: $2 Million
      -[X] Blazing Saddles: $4 Million
      -[X] Ocean's 11: $2 Million
      -[X] The Searchers: $5 Million
      -[X] What's Up Doc: $2 Million
      -[X] Arscenic and Old Lace: $1 Million
      -[X] Cool Hand Luke: $2 Million
      -[X] Mean Streets: $1 Million
      -[X] Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore: $3 Million
      -[X] You're a Bug Boy Now: $1 Million
      -[X] Finian's Rainbow: $4 Million
      -[X] The Rain People: $1 Million
      -[X] Get to Know Your Rabbit: $ 1 Million
      -[X] Pump $150 Million into the Lucasfilms Warchest
      [X] Plan Get Em' Cheap if We Can...If Not Bleed Universal
      -[X]DC Comics: Up to 200 million
      -[X]Warner Animation (The Loony Toons): Up to 100 million
      -[X]Dirty Harry: Up to $60 million
      -[X]THX 1138: Up to $10 million (Call George if it goes above this and see how strongly he feels. If it is strong, we can go up to $30 million).
      -[X] Pump money into Lucasfilm from Bruce to cover 50% of cost up to $150 million.
      [X] Plan Clean Sweep
      -[X]DC Comics: The Heart of the Big Two of the comic industry of America, one of the pillars of Pulp… when they are solely focused on superheroes that is. It is just as much a part of mainstream American culture as everyone else. And among all the others, it has a catalog of some of the most famous superheroes in the world. And everyone is wanting a piece of it. (Minimum bid on the DC Comics must begin at 100 million. Gains the production of Superman, one of the last films Warner is making before it fully disbands. As well as their comics division). Bid $200 million for a starting bid.
      -[X]Warner Animation (The Loony Toons): The Classic Looney Toons characters are all a packaged deal, just as they were when Schlesinger studios was bought up by Warner when he came in. There is no doubt about it, they are among the most popular cartoon characters in the world. And they carry with them the price tag of success. (Minimum bid on The Loony Toons must begin at 50 million. Gain all the Loony Toons characters, and the rights to their shorts, TV show, and other marketing and promotional material.) Bid $150 million for a starting bid.
      -[X]Dirty Harry: Clint Eastwood crowning Jewel of Urban crime drama, as well as the best action movie in years. It's more of a personal favor for Clint to get his baby back into his hands. And the fact he may owe you a great many favors. Bid 30 million.
      -[X]THX 1138: George has said that he wants his film back, and wants to give it the release it deserves. Also, you think he deserves a nice gift when he comes back from Vacation? Bid 30 million.
      --[X] Pump $100 Million into the Lucasfilms Warchest
      [X] Plan Fiscally responsible Clean Sweep
      -[X]DC Comics: The Heart of the Big Two of the comic industry of America, one of the pillars of Pulp… when they are solely focused on superheroes that is. It is just as much a part of mainstream American culture as everyone else. And among all the others, it has a catalog of some of the most famous superheroes in the world. And everyone is wanting a piece of it. (Minimum bid on the DC Comics must begin at 100 million. Gains the production of Superman, one of the last films Warner is making before it fully disbands. As well as their comics division). Bid $110 million.
      -[X]Warner Animation (The Loony Toons): The Classic Looney Toons characters are all a packaged deal, just as they were when Schlesinger studios was bought up by Warner when he came in. There is no doubt about it, they are among the most popular cartoon characters in the world. And they carry with them the price tag of success. (Minimum bid on The Loony Toons must begin at 50 million. Gain all the Loony Toons characters, and the rights to their shorts, TV show, and other marketing and promotional material.) Bid $100 million for a starting bid.
      -[X]Dirty Harry: Clint Eastwood crowning Jewel of Urban crime drama, as well as the best action movie in years. It's more of a personal favor for Clint to get his baby back into his hands. And the fact he may owe you a great many favors. Bid 40 million.
      -[X]THX 1138: George has said that he wants his film back, and wants to give it the release it deserves. Also, you think he deserves a nice gift when he comes back from Vacation? Bid 60 million.
      --[X] Pump $100 Million into the Lucasfilms Warchest
      [X] DC Comics: The Heart of the Big Two of the comic industry of America, one of the pillars of Pulp… when they are solely focused on superheroes that is. It is just as much a part of mainstream American culture as everyone else. And among all the others, it has a catalog of some of the most famous superheroes in the world. And everyone is wanting a piece of it. (Minimum bid on the DC Comics must begin at 100 million. Gains the production of Superman, one of the last films Warner is making before it fully disbands. As well as their comics division)
      [X]THX 1138: George has said that he wants his film back, and wants to give it the release it deserves. Also, you think he deserves a nice gift when he comes back from Vacation?
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    That moment when, you begin to just begin to plan for the films that will soon be made by Lucasfilms and you have three legendary directors fighting for a chance to direct Conan and Bruce because let's face it Bruce will want the role and they want him in the Role

    Oh my holy god… a spieldburg led Conan film… a Depalma led Conan film…

    A fucking Scorsese led Conan film…

    Shit this next turn is going to get wild.
     
    Magoose said:
    That moment when, you begin to just begin to plan for the films that will soon be made by Lucasfilms and you have three legendary directors fighting for a chance to direct Conan and Bruce because let's face it Bruce will want the role and they want him in the Role

    Oh my holy god… a spieldburg led Conan film… a Depalma led Conan film…

    A fucking Scorsese led Conan film…

    Shit this next turn is going to get wild.
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    So, the way it's done is basically let the Directors choose among the scripts, then look for other directors who don't work for us to do the remaining ones?

    Also, Joe Johnston worked with Lucas in OTL during Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back, not as a Director but he could be taught. What is he doing at the moment?
     
    overmind said:
    So, the way it's done is basically let the Directors choose among the scripts, then look for other directors who don't work for us to do the remaining ones?
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    Kinda. The unfortunate problem is is that we need movies made, we need directors to work and not everyone is going to get th picture they want to make.

    But they defiantly went to Mike and expressed interest in the scripts as their first choice.

    You know the funny thing is it might cause a civil war in the company because everyone wants to get something and we will be unable to get it all.

    Oh and the best part of it all, fun things are ahead.
    overmind said:
    Also, Joe Johnston worked with Lucas in OTL during Star Wars and Empire Strikes Back, not as a Director but he could be taught. What is he doing at the moment?
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    I haven't actually done anything for Joe because honestly… I didn't know how he could organically show up?

    Maybe a second unit director who caught George's eye.

    But he's around just not in our area of Lucasfilms.
     
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    Magoose said:
    I haven't actually done anything for Joe because honestly… I didn't know how he could organically show up?

    Maybe a second unit director who caught George's eye.

    But he's around just not in our area of Lucasfilms.
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    Well, he did help Co-create the design for Boba Fett, and worked in design and visual effects in all three movies of the Original Trilogy (and Director of Effect teams in Return of the Jedi) as well as in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

    I'm just saying, clearly he's not ready to direct yet, but he's a talented man, and I could see him as being one of those characters that could be part of the Lucasfilms Directors in the future.
     
    Magoose said:
    That moment when, you begin to just begin to plan for the films that will soon be made by Lucasfilms and you have three legendary directors fighting for a chance to direct Conan and Bruce because let's face it Bruce will want the role and they want him in the Role

    Oh my holy god… a spieldburg led Conan film… a Depalma led Conan film…

    A fucking Scorsese led Conan film…

    Shit this next turn is going to get wild.
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    So what are people's opinions in who is the Best Conan? I think each have their own definitive strengths that will differ greatly from one another. Spielberg is going to have an adventure epic comparable to Lord of the Rings. De Palma is probably going to lean heavily into the high fantasy and mysticism part and will have fun with special effects. And Scorcese will make Conan really character-driven and focused on Conan's emotional journey as a protagonist and his relationships.
     
    Kaiser Chris said:
    De Palma is probably going to lean heavily into the high fantasy and mysticism part and will have fun with special effects.
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    Cite the deep magics to me.

    ...which, by and by, makes me want to snag the rights to the Chronicles of Narnia, partly because I think we can have fun with how Tolkien tied Numenor to Lewis' description of Atlantis [in Magician's Nephew]. In a similar vein of the matters of the fantastical and mysticism, given that DC will likely falter in the decades to come [without our intervention], I'd like to see if we can't hire on Neil Gaiman and Alan Moore to fill help fill the void that the lack of the Sandman and Watchmen will create.
     
    Kaiser Chris said:
    So what are people's opinions in who is the Best Conan? I think each have their own definitive strengths that will differ greatly from one another. Spielberg is going to have an adventure epic comparable to Lord of the Rings. De Palma is probably going to lean heavily into the high fantasy and mysticism part and will have fun with special effects. And Scorcese will make Conan really character-driven and focused on Conan's emotional journey as a protagonist and his relationships.
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    It is so fucking difficult to choose... I wish we could combine the three of them... BUT I would personally go with Scorcese, one of the most recurring criticism of Conan in the adaptations is how shallow of a character he is, Scorcese would certainly fix that...

    When we do the Dune however I really want to use Scorcese since he would nail the evolution of Paul from a innocent teenager to the ultimate fake Messiah, and the consequences that it will cause.
    Orion Ultor said:
    I'd like to see if we can't hire on Neil Gaiman and Alan Moore to fill help fill the void that the lack of the Sandman and Watchmen will create.
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    Then vote for buying the Damned DC Comics!!!

    If you want to take control of the company that will create the best graphic novels and limited series of the 80s and the 90s this is the fucking time...
     
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    Kaiser Chris said:
    So what are people's opinions in who is the Best Conan? I think each have their own definitive strengths that will differ greatly from one another. Spielberg is going to have an adventure epic comparable to Lord of the Rings. De Palma is probably going to lean heavily into the high fantasy and mysticism part and will have fun with special effects. And Scorcese will make Conan really character-driven and focused on Conan's emotional journey as a protagonist and his relationships.
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    I've always been a fan of fund adventure stories, so i think we could go with Spielberg on this one. So long as it doesn't stop Indiana Jones' developement though. no Matter what, that movie must be made.

    Perhaps Scorsese might work for th best here. Conan is already known for being heavy on fights and fantasy, but adding a touch of inctrospectiveness and showing how Conan is not just a dumb brute could work very well with him at the wheel.
    Orion Ultor said:
    Cite the deep magics to me.

    ...which, by and by, makes me want to snag the rights to the Chronicles of Narnia, partly because I think we can have fun with how Tolkien tied Numenor to Lewis' description of Atlantis [in Magician's Nephew]. In a similar vein of the matters of the fantastical and mysticism, given that DC will likely falter in the decades to come [without our intervention], I'd like to see if we can't hire on Neil Gaiman and Alan Moore to fill help fill the void that the lack of the Sandman and Watchmen will create.
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    Yeah, and I mean, the first movie was not that bad, while the second did at least try to make it a bit more interesting than the material it used.

    Perhaps we could buy the "Chronicles of Prydain" series from Disney as well if they go full on the Live Action instead of animation. The Black Cauldron made by us could be a classic this time.
    Fanhunter696 said:
    When we do the Dune however I really want to use Scorcese he would nail the evolution of Paul from a innocent teenager to the ultimate fake Messiah, and the consequences that it will cause.
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    I want George to Direct Dune though, mainly because as a fanhe could bring out the best of the book has to offer. Furthermore, hsi style of filming where every small part has a story behind it can work with a story so heavy on background like Dune, and one that is more political and introspective than Star Wars.

    Besides, we can use the script of OTL Dune 2021 with some small changes and we would be golden (Split it in two parts as well).
     
    overmind said:
    I want George to Direct Dune though, mainly because as a fanhe could bring out the best of the book has to offer. Furthermore, hsi style of filming where every small part has a story behind it can work with a story so heavy on background like Dune, and one that is more political and introspective than Star Wars.

    Besides, we can use the script of OTL Dune 2021 with some small changes and we would be golden (Split it in two parts as well).
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    I don't know, as much of a fan of the source material as you may be, the deconstruction of the Chosen One and the message of "Beware of leaders, Messiahs and Heroes" is very difficult to pull out for someone with the style of Lucas...

    That is why I would go for Scorsese for Dune
     
    Fanhunter696 said:
    Then vote for buying the Damned DC Comics!!!

    If you want to take control of the company that will create the best graphic novels and limited series of the 80s and the 90s this is the fucking time...
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    Considering that WB was hemorrhaging money at an obscene rate and has been functionally on life support since '74, none of the storylines that built up those of the 80s and 90s likely even exist anymore, on account of the company likely had to (at first) shut down their offices to stop their parent company from closing down, so all those titles that would have made the company worth a damn aren't around anymore; it's likely DC's best writers and artists left DC when this was happening and followed Jack Kirby, so already quality has gone up immensely at their rival.

    Beyond that, all those plans would have Bruce and Lucasfilms collective wealth dwindle down to near nothing...leaving us open to further attacks by the other Studios.
    overmind said:
    Yeah, and I mean, the first movie was not that bad, while the second did at least try to make it a bit more interesting than the material it used.
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    Given their heavy Christian undertones (beyond the WoG that outright states Aslan is allegorically, metaphorically, or anything else, Jesus straight up), I can see Bruce more or less using the series as an opportunity to discuss various theological and philosophical topics with the audience.

    Depending on how that pans out, and which of them gets emphasized, there's a good chance we can get Mr. Rogers involved on the project and plated on PBS, likely in the form as some kind of charitable action.
     
    Orion Ultor said:
    Given their heavy Christian undertones (beyond the WoG that outright states Aslan is allegorically, metaphorically, or anything else, Jesus straight up), I can see Bruce more or less using the series as an opportunity to discuss various theological and philosophical topics with the audience.

    Depending on how that pans out, and which of them gets emphasized, there's a good chance we can get Mr. Rogers involved on the project and plated on PBS, likely in the form as some kind of charitable action.
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    Oh my God, Mr. Rogers as Professor Digory Kirke! It would fit so much!

    One thing we should do about the movies though is try and present them in an Anthology form, where the main character is not the Pevensies but the world around them. That way we can avoid so many of the problems of OTL movies.

    As for Aslan, the whole thing will be revealed inmediately if we try and adapt "The Magician's Nephew" as that book outright says that Aslan is Jesus/God or at least implies it so hard that it's basically the same.
     
    Orion Ultor said:
    Considering that WB was hemorrhaging money at an obscene rate and has been functionally on life support since '74, none of the storylines that built up those of the 80s and 90s likely even exist anymore, on account of the company likely had to (at first) shut down their offices to stop their parent company from closing down, so all those titles that would have made the company worth a damn aren't around anymore; it's likely DC's best writers and artists left DC when this was happening and followed Jack Kirby, so already quality has gone up immensely at their rival.

    Beyond that, all those plans would have Bruce and Lucasfilms collective wealth dwindle down to near nothing...leaving us open to further attacks by the other Studios.
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    That is something to ask the QM, what you are doing is mere speculation...

    @Magoose the theory of@Orion Ultor about what has happened to DC is true?
     
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    overmind said:
    I've always been a fan of fund adventure stories, so i think we could go with Spielberg on this one. So long as it doesn't stop Indiana Jones' developement though. no Matter what, that movie must be made
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    Well one thing that I am going to say is that Conan is at his core a pulp hero in the vein of the serials Steven and George watched as a kids so it would be great. For them.

    However considering that Conan is also a narrative it can also work as a multi part saga.
    overmind said:
    Perhaps Scorsese might work for th best here. Conan is already known for being heavy on fights and fantasy, but adding a touch of inctrospectiveness and showing how Conan is not just a dumb brute could work very well with him at the wheel.
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    Considering much of Howard's work were forced to be dumb pulpy fun by his publishers, I'd argue that Conan has always had depth, but the adventure and spectacle always took priority.
    Orion Ultor said:
    Given their heavy Christian undertones (beyond the WoG that outright states Aslan is allegorically, metaphorically, or anything else, Jesus straight up), I can see Bruce more or less using the series as an opportunity to discuss various theological and philosophical topics with the audience.
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    No comment on that.
    Orion Ultor said:
    Depending on how that pans out, and which of them gets emphasized, there's a good chance we can get Mr. Rogers involved on the project and plated on PBS, likely in the form as some kind of charitable action
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    And then you win at life.
    Kaiser Chris said:
    @Magoose How has Peanuts been doing? I think the Specials should still be on CBS but has Paramount picked up the rights or are they independent?
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    Not touched with CBS. Not any sort of stuff affected that stuff.
    Fanhunter696 said:
    That is something to ask the QM, what you are doing is mere speculation...

    @Magoose the theory of@Orion Ultor about what has happened to DC is true?
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    Actually it has made dc comics keep going despite it because at this point they might be making all the profits for themselves and they are going all out with comic story's.

    So no, DC is still making comics despite everything going on because they think they will make money and Warner going bankrupt isn't going to stop them.
     
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    Magoose said:
    Actually it has made dc comics keep going despite it because at this point they might be making all the profits for themselves and they are going all out with comic story's.

    So no, DC is still making comics despite everything going on because they think they will make money.
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    Here you have it @Orion Ultor ? DC is still on his way to creating Vertigo and some of the best graphic novels of all time, if we want to get Sandman, Watchmen, and the rest of the stuff we need to purchase DC now...
     
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