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    • Magoose said:
    Hi Magoose here one of the guys helping Duke.

    So we have some bad news.

    The quest has been canceled as duke does not want to write it anymore.

    I'm going to ask if I can take over for it, because I like this quest, and it would be a shame to kill it
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    TBF, Mags, you have been doing a lot of the heavylifting for the quest, so this will be in good hands. :)

    To be clear to everyone, this is just me burning out on imagination of the quest, since my muse has been hitting me over the head a lot with so many different ideas that I just can't find myself too interested in this.

    I'll still hang out here, though, since this still does have a sepcial place in my heart.

    I'd like to thank you all for making this a wonderful experience while it lasted.

    I'd also like to thank @Magoose, @Fluffy_serpent, and @Martin Noctis for doing so much to help prepare and write this quest. I couldn't have done it without you all. :D

    I'll see you all around.

    With so many regards, Duke William Of.
     
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    • Magoose said:
    I'll give you all one reason that he wants a stake in the company.

    He dosent want to be replaced without a fight as many people in his position are at other corps.

    And he has a genuine belief that Lucasfilms can succeed.
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    Does adding the "Right to First Refusal" change anything?
    Schehera Zade said:
    You made my night. Those films are a fucking beacon in the sea of detestable superhero films and content and the flood of cynicism and grimdark. I'm very happy to see that at least the first Superman film will be made.
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    Agreed, and at the very least lets Warner leave this world with a bang, not a whimper.
     
    Schehera Zade said:
    You made my night. Those films are a fucking beacon in the sea of detestable superhero films and content and the flood of cynicism and grimdark. I'm very happy to see that at least the first Superman film will be made.
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    Oh and I love this.

    overmind said:
    Does adding the "Right to First Refusal" change anything?
    Agreed, and at the very least lets Warner leave this world with a bang, not a whimper.
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    He would be insulted if you didn't.

    He is a buissness man after all
     
    [X] "Counteroffer, $12 Million salary [adjusting for inflation], producer credits on two films a year and 2% ownership (With an addendum that we get right of first refusal if he ever wants to sell it)."
    -[X] Aside: "I understand he wants a lot George, but a lot of our success is because of him; because of that I want to right by him, so I'll take the brunt of the costs from my personal shares if need be."
     
    Honestly? Yeah it sounds fair, though part of me feels like not making a counteroffer and engaging in haggling will disappoint him as a businessman. So in the spirit of the haggling code we shall.. er, haggle. Flashbacks to life of brian.

    Also how many shares would he need to have that job security/leadership role he wants? I don't actually know anything about that kind of thing.
     
    Mr. Idiot said:
    Honestly? Yeah it sounds fair, though part of me feels like not making a counteroffer and engaging in haggling will disappoint him as a businessman. So in the spirit of the haggling code we shall.. er, haggle. Flashbacks to life of brian.

    Also how many shares would he need to have that job security/leadership role he wants? I don't actually know anything about that kind of thing.
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    Technically if it were a public ally traded company, the board of directors would need to vote.

    But since it's not, having any ownership percentage… would be job security.
     
    Magoose said:
    Technically if it were a public ally traded company, the board of directors would need to vote.

    But since it's not, having any ownership percentage… would be job security.
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    I see, thank you.

    [X] Counteroffer: $5,000,000 Salary + Annual Bonus+ 10.5 million signing bonus, Producer credit on at least one film a year (his choice), 2% Ownership with contracted agreement that if he wants to sell the stock (or if ownership changes hand for any reason ie court or asset distribution), the stocks have to be offered for sale to Lucasfilms first (and only) for at least one year at market value.

    Part of me wants to go lower because I feel like we're not haggling right by upping the pay so fast. Like, yeah I'm willing to give him that but I also want to actually do business things good so we and Mike have a good duel of negotiations. Mostly for fun, but also respect.

    Because I feel like Mike is the type to appreciate being engaged with in such a way/treated seriously, and I'm hoping there's an unspoken air of agreement on the "you're here to stay/you're equal to us" thing during the whole ordeal, because it should be done in good spirit. Friendship is nice, and friendship with jolly sporting duels is even better.
     
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    Y'know, I'm a card carrying communist, so I understand disliking someone whose job is basically "be a capitalist for your bohemian artist bosses", but I never understood all the animosity against Mike. He really just... helps. A lot.

    I can't even see this as him being greedy. He really did earn a raise, Producer status and some shares.

    Maybe 5% is a lot, but like... It's not really unfair or unearned.

    [X] "Counteroffer, $10 Million salary [adjusting for inflation], producer credits on two films a year and 2% ownership."
    -[X] Aside if George complains: "I understand he wants a lot George, but a lot of our success is because of him; because of that I want to right by him, so I'll take the brunt of the costs from my personal shares if need be."
     
    read the Lucasfilm's January 1976 assets
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    The Eisner Group (Lucasfilms Marketing Division): Internally called that by everyone who works for it, because Mike is basically running it for distribution, This group of overworked and underpaid People is in charge of hyping your films up for the masses, as well as making sure butts are in seats for when the curtains are drawn.
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    overworked and underpaid, @Magoose what is Mike being paid currently?
     
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    EISNER QUEST EPISODE XLV THE QUEST FOR MORE MONEY
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    • EISNER QUEST
    EPISODE XLV
    THE QUEST FOR MORE MONEY    ​

    You were with George and Bruce and you could tell right away they were more then a little worried, and honestly they should be. You worked your ass off to get LucasFilms where it is know. If it wasn't for you there would be no Rocky, no Godzilla, Lone Wolf and Cub or any of the other contacts or Japanese films the company was set to make a profit from and now..... Well now it was time to pay the piper.


    You were confident you'd work out a profitable deal especially after Rocky was such a success. You carefully ignored the niggling memories on what those Bastards at Universal had said to you. And put on your game face. Oh Universal had gotten to you good, you had to admit but you weren't going to let it affect these talks. That would only let them win.

    But enough about those petty little shits you were here to talk about your favorite thing. Money.

    Things began about as you expected them to with Bruce looking you dead in the eye.

    Alright Mike, let's hear what you have to say. What do you want.

    …
    Alright folks It's time for some negotiations. Write in what your opening bid is. No guarantees that it will be accepted but unless it's offensively outrageous you'll get a counter offer.

    []Write in

    QuestymcQuester" said:
    Ok people we've gotten our little OC this far now we just have to get a permanent seat at the big boys table.
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    The Mighty Minotaur" said:
    Yeah we definitely need a stake in the company. We've just gotta ask for one that's not so big as to freak everyone(especially George) out but enough that we can make ourselves heard.
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    Randoname" said:
    Hey NegaGoose what would you define as "offensively outrageous'?
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    NegaGoose" said:
    Randoname" said:
    Hey NegaGoose what would you define as "offensively outrageous'?
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    A controlling stake in the company, more money then they can afford to pay, a golden statue built in your image things like that.
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    Randoname" said:
    Guess I'll have to settle for platinum then.:p
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    QuestymcQuester" said:
    So what do you guy's think of asking for five mil and four percent?


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    The masked questor" said:
    QuestymcQuester" said:
    So what do you guy's think of asking for five mil and fourty percent?
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    Forty! I seriously doubt we're gonig to get that much.
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    QuestymcQuester" said:
    Huh,Sorry I don't know why the hell I wrote forty, it was even spelled wrong. Sorry I meant four.
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    Negaman Legends" said:
    QuestymcQuester" said:
    So what do you guy's think of asking for five mil and four percent?
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    We'll be lucky to get 2(the same as Georges wife has). But bump it up to 5 just to be safe. Always ask for a pony when you want a puppy.
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    Randoname" said:
    Yeah fives fine with me too.
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    NegaGoose" said:
    Mortarium's over everyone, get to voting.
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    _____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
    So I got bored and wrote a Negaquest. I'm honestly not that great at writing omakes but whenever I do manage to work myself up to do one I have fun so I hope you like it.
     
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    • [X] "Counteroffer, $12 Million salary [adjusting for inflation], producer credits on two films a year and 2% ownership (With an addendum that we get right of first refusal if he ever wants to sell it)."
    -[X] Aside: "I understand he wants a lot George, but a lot of our success is because of him; because of that I want to right by him, so I'll take the brunt of the costs from my personal shares if need be."
     
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    [X] Counteroffer: $5,000,000 Salary + Annual Bonus+ 10.5 million signing bonus, Producer credit on at least one film a year (his choice), 2% Ownership with contracted agreement that if he wants to sell the stock (or if ownership changes hand for any reason ie court or asset distribution), the stocks have to be offered for sale to Lucasfilms first (and only) for at least one year at market value.

    The Bonus will be the equivalent of 3% ownership distribution of profits (the amount the company gives to the owners when it distributes profits) so that he will get the equivalent of a 5% ownership share or profits (2% from his own share and 3% from bonus).

    My thought is to give him what he is asking for in functional terms, but to lower the ownership amount to 2%. The reason for this is that I want to keep Mike happy and let him know we trust him to tell us his value and for us to agree that he is worth it. The main concern that I have is keeping any interest within Lucasfilm, within Lucasfilm. Meaning that we would need to keep a war chest of at least 2% of the value of the company liquid (to be calculated once a year) to pay for the 2% if Mike ever wants to sell.

    Of course, the stocks themselves also have value. And with Rocky, Lucasfilm has approximately 350 million dollars in liquid assets. So, 1% ownership is equal to approximately 3.5 million dollars (excluding assets because...that is more calculation than I want to do). Thus, 3% is 10.5 million dollars.

    This way, Mike gets the value of what he is asking for, and comes out with 2% ownership and he knows he is valued (plus he has a further incentive to work hard as he is getting equivalent to 5%). Lucasfilm gets to lock in a key pillar to its function and does not need to set aside too much money in case he ever decides to sell.

    Edit: Also, I want to make the purchase rights a bit tighter. Don't expect this to happen, but if Mike gets divorced or when he dies, the ownership would change. Thus, wanted to cover those situations.
     
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    [X] Counteroffer: $5,000,000 Salary + Annual Bonus+ 10.5 million signing bonus, Producer credit on at least one film a year (his choice), 2% Ownership with contracted agreement that if he wants to sell the stock (or if ownership changes hand for any reason ie court or asset distribution), the stocks have to be offered for sale to Lucasfilms first (and only) for at least one year at market value.

    I'll vote for this due to the maths done, which makes it look slightly more professional/business-like than the other proposal.
     
    [X] "Counteroffer, $10 Million salary [adjusting for inflation], producer credits on two films a year and 2% ownership."
    -[X] Aside if George complains: "I understand he wants a lot George, but a lot of our success is because of him; because of that I want to right by him, so I'll take the brunt of the costs from my personal shares if need be."

    12 million is just a step too far, tbh, I'd rather go to 8 million, but I'm too late to start a new vote now I feel.
     
    [X] "Counteroffer, $12 Million salary [adjusting for inflation], producer credits on two films a year and 2% ownership (With an addendum that we get right of first refusal if he ever wants to sell it)."
    -[X] Aside: "I understand he wants a lot George, but a lot of our success is because of him; because of that I want to right by him, so I'll take the brunt of the costs from my personal shares if need be."
     
    [X] "Counteroffer, $12 Million salary [adjusting for inflation], producer credits on two films a year and 2% ownership (With an addendum that we get right of first refusal if he ever wants to sell it)."
    -[X] Aside: "I understand he wants a lot George, but a lot of our success is because of him; because of that I want to right by him, so I'll take the brunt of the costs from my personal shares if need be."
     
    [X] "Counteroffer, $12 Million salary [adjusting for inflation], producer credits on two films a year and 2% ownership (With an addendum that we get right of first refusal if he ever wants to sell it)."
    -[X] Aside: "I understand he wants a lot George, but a lot of our success is because of him; because of that I want to right by him, so I'll take the brunt of the costs from my personal shares if need be."
     
    [X] "Counteroffer, $12 Million salary [adjusting for inflation], producer credits on two films a year and 2% ownership (With an addendum that we get right of first refusal if he ever wants to sell it)."
    -[X] Aside: "I understand he wants a lot George, but a lot of our success is because of him; because of that I want to right by him, so I'll take the brunt of the costs from my personal shares if need be."

    I almost want to add 'we start at $10 million, and let ourselves be talked up to 12, but we stay firm on the percentage."
     
    [X] "Counteroffer, $10 Million salary [adjusting for inflation], producer credits on two films a year and 2% ownership."
    -[X] Aside if George complains: "I understand he wants a lot George, but a lot of our success is because of him; because of that I want to right by him, so I'll take the brunt of the costs from my personal shares if need be."

    Just like CoreBrute said , start at $10 million but go up to $12 million if needed. Also offering more than double his opening bid as our opening bid seems sloppy.
     
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