TBF, Mags, you have been doing a lot of the heavylifting for the quest, so this will be in good hands.
To be clear to everyone, this is just me burning out on imagination of the quest, since my muse has been hitting me over the head a lot with so many different ideas that I just can't find myself too interested in this.
I'll still hang out here, though, since this still does have a sepcial place in my heart.
I'd like to thank you all for making this a wonderful experience while it lasted.
I'd also like to thank @Magoose, @Fluffy_serpent, and @Martin Noctis for doing so much to help prepare and write this quest. I couldn't have done it without you all.
I'm mainly a lurker and don't follow the thread page by page so i'm not sure if there has been a consensus on Ewan's new role in Star Wars now that Young Obi Wan isn't possible.
But this idea just occurred to me and i thought i would like to share it. I know that Karen Travis is pretty divisive among the Star Wars Fanbase, but i personally did like the more Spec-Ops slant she brought to her take of the Mandolorians and the introduction of Papa Kal Skirata.
I think Ewan would be very suitable for the role of Kal Skirata as a tough father figure willing to buck authority for his "kids". I'm admittedly influenced slightly by Kenobi, but him being an overprotective Father seems natural to me.
We do know how he kinda looks in the armor since Clone Trooper armor had Mando inspirations
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That could work. Although, if we want Ewan to be the right age then the best time to make a series would be in the 2010's unless we want to change Kal's backstory to get rid of his first wife and kids, although I think that's a somewhat critical part in his character and how he rebuilds his family. Kal's physical appearence was explicitly based off of Ed Harris and if we do a Clone Commando show in the 90's or 2000's he'd be perfect for the role.
Speaking of, similarly to how other major Questers have been making OCs placed into positions of leadership within Lucasfilms in the Quest, as a heads up I am actually planning to make an OC author who starts to write Star Wars books in the Bantam Era. The stuff I wanted to do was Mandalorians, political thrillers, Old Republic and Jedi exploration stories. I especially want to submit Mandalorian focused pitches, both a mix of OTL content and new stuff, to have Mandalorians firmly establishd as an integral part of the lore early on and have some of Traviss' ideas become mainstream without being dismissed due to her messyness.
And on the topic of Star Wars books, something we ABSOLUTELY need to see adapted to a tv show are the Medstar books. For those who don't know, the Medstar duology is basically MASH in Star Wars where it focuses on a Republic medical unit serving on a backwater world with the Republic fighting against the Separatists over a miracle drug. It's a great ensemble story with Barriss Offee as the protagonist and showcases great drama, slice of life and lots of human relations as some of the best character-focused stories in the franchise. Since Bruce was on MASH, I feel like Medstar would resonate with him incredibly strong and that would be one of his pet projects in the Clone Wars era.
Also if Harrison Ford is going to play Boba, whose going to play Jango in the prequels because unless it's a 90's film then we'd have to get someone else cause he'd be too old. Going to be weird seeing a million CGI Harrisons in Attack of the Clones.
Something interesting I realized is that with Godfather beating Some Nights for best film and Director, Universal is bound to be seething that the movie they parrot as the GOAT lost to Godfather Part II, and presumably after millions spent in bribes, and for the near future Lucasfilms has been notched down considerably in their shit list and Universal is going to start a blood feud with Paramount to make them pay for taking away Some Nights. So pretty good in that the studios stab each other while we quietly do our own thing and make masterpieces.
I wonder how Francis thinks of Some Nights, probably no hard feelings after he and his dad won some Oscars. Also something fun is that Talia Shire is probably locked down to play Adrian through family connections with Francis likely pushing her to audition for Rocky because she'll be out of work for most of the year and not only is Rocky one of the only opportunities, but it's made under George's company and he trusts his sister with George and Bruce.
Finally, the fact that the strike is still ongoing by the Oscars means that it's been happening for 3 months, and even if the strike was to end the day after, that's going to leave a huge impact and it seems like there's no sign of stopping.
"George, do you have opinions on my wife you're not telling me?"
"Hey I just want to pay homage to Buck Rogers."
Hopefully after starring in two of the GOAT movies and presumably other legendary roles up til 1983, if the slave bikini does still happen it would hardly leave a mark on Carrie's career.
What are your opinions on having this picture be directed as a small scene in the third film:
It humanizes Vader more and is an excellent foreshadowing for the prequels.
I was thinking it taking place when Vader found out Luke was his son and deciding to go to Padme's grave for some introspection and mourning
Hmm...could work though we'd really need to integrate it well with Marcia doing a good editing job. It'd be too clunky to have Padme introduced and devote a ton of exposition to her, Clone Wars and Skywalker family without making it an exposition dump, but some soft stuff to firmly introduce the idea and establish Padme as a concept, and just leave it for viewers to think about and some quiet exploration in Bantam books before fully exploring things in the prequels.
I think it'd be interesting that, instead of returning to Dagobah in Ep.6, Luke visited Naboo with Leia instead to set all the "There is another Skywalker" up, and in the process meets Pooja Naberie; by the way, I'm not the only one who sees the resemblance to Alyson Hannigan, right?
I figure it's also a way to set up George's Original Sequel Trilogy [with Darth Maul and Darth Talon], while also hinting at what a systemic problem the Sith are: "You think this the first time the Republic has faced down fearful odds against a Sith Emperor?"
Why would Luke be going to Naboo? Would it be a Rebel stronghold and one of the few planets in open rebellion, and the Endor plan takes place in Theed? Would definitely love to have Pooja and her sister become more prominent characters. I actually have a Fanon idea of Ryoo becoming a starfighter ace for the Rebellion, and we could introduce her in Empire and be a love interest/friend for Wedge in Return of the Jedi. Heck, have Linda Carter play her if she's not playing Winter. Also since Winter is not present in New Hope (kind of disappointed because I could have sworn Magoose was hinting Linda having a new part as compensation), would it be good to have her introduced in Empire or is she just not cut out for the OT?
Also if we chose to create a whole new Sequel Trilogy with no regard to EU, I hope that at the very least unlike Disney's braindead policy, we keep the EU alive as a separate and vibrant universe like how Marvel and DC handle their multiverse and still have the potential for EU adaptations and games to be released as fun side projects.
I imagine that for the rest of the 80's George is going to take a break from Star Wars to simply relax and enjoy his newfound wealth along with focusing on other projects to delve into, Indiana Jones being one example. Plus if him and Marcia never have their marriage fall out, likely with how smooth and stress free Star Wars is becoming, then he's probably going to be focused on raising his family.
Even with us being long before the release of Star Wars, butterflies are flapping hard for a very different career for George. He's written an Oscar-level script already, everyone is taking Star Wars seriously and is eager to do their best work, George has done a great job directing, and production issues are a fraction of what they were OTL. Filmmaking might never be George's favorite activity, but he's not going to lose his love like he did OTL.
That could work. Although, if we want Ewan to be the right age then the best time to make a series would be in the 2010's unless we want to change Kal's backstory to get rid of his first wife and kids, although I think that's a somewhat critical part in his character and how he rebuilds his family. Kal's physical appearence was explicitly based off of Ed Harris and if we do a Clone Commando show in the 90's or 2000's he'd be perfect for the role.
Speaking of, similarly to how other major Questers have been making OCs placed into positions of leadership within Lucasfilms in the Quest, as a heads up I am actually planning to make an OC author who starts to write Star Wars books in the Bantam Era. The stuff I wanted to do was Mandalorians, political thrillers, Old Republic and Jedi exploration stories. I especially want to submit Mandalorian focused pitches, both a mix of OTL content and new stuff, to have Mandalorians firmly establishd as an integral part of the lore early on and have some of Traviss' ideas become mainstream without being dismissed due to her messyness.
And on the topic of Star Wars books, something we ABSOLUTELY need to see adapted to a tv show are the Medstar books. For those who don't know, the Medstar duology is basically MASH in Star Wars where it focuses on a Republic medical unit serving on a backwater world with the Republic fighting against the Separatists over a miracle drug. It's a great ensemble story with Barriss Offee as the protagonist and showcases great drama, slice of life and lots of human relations as some of the best character-focused stories in the franchise. Since Bruce was on MASH, I feel like Medstar would resonate with him incredibly strong and that would be one of his pet projects in the Clone Wars era.
Also if Harrison Ford is going to play Boba, whose going to play Jango in the prequels because unless it's a 90's film then we'd have to get someone else cause he'd be too old. Going to be weird seeing a million CGI Harrisons in Attack of the Clones.
Well, something that did occur to me after posting was that a TV show around Jaller Obrim and the CSF set around the period of the entire prequel movies will be neat.
It could be a muti-season affair where:
- The first season the CSF are basically doing normal SWAT stuff against Corosucant's underbelly with a plot arc midway that has them tracking down leads of missing explosives that climax in Padme's assassination attempt.
- Second Season, has them having to deal with repercussions and basically doing the investigation that leads to "the spice miners". Maybe with a few instigations into the Assassin to help set the tone that the Jedi aren't the only one working. Climax will of course be the declaration of WAR and maybe that bit where Kal first meets the CSF
- 3rd and 4th season, the event's of Triple Zero
- 5th Season can be the Clone Wars Coruscant stuff etc
The idea being that as the Timeline progressed, Jaller finds himself turning more and more into the tool used to suppress the population under the "necessary measures" and fear of the Seperatists that Palpatine strokes.
One reason i think it should be Jaller instead of just a Clone Commando show is because i think this will also allow for opportunities to show Palpatine's manipulations and fear stroking that explain why people were so accepting of the change to Empire.
Maybe bits of him appearing in a holo making a speech, Reports of victories and losses, posters decrying the Jedi etc. A kind of POV on the ground where the apathy of the citizens in the Capital towards the war can be shown until it strikes home with the Raid where they then charged towards Oppression as long as it guarantees Security.
I'm not sure if this counts as a TV Pitch, but i think titlewise: Triple Zero like the novel has a really nice ring to it.
P.S: In regards to Harrison Ford, i guess Boba doesn't need to be a direct clone of Jango to avoid the face issue? Maybe he was a adopted foundling that Jango picked up ala Din Dijarin. Or if the Clone Son narrative is important, maybe Boba had work done on his face.
"George, do you have opinions on my wife you're not telling me?"
"Hey I just want to pay homage to Buck Rogers."
Hopefully after starring in two of the GOAT movies and presumably other legendary roles up til 1983, if the slave bikini does still happen it would hardly leave a mark on Carrie's career.
It's late and I just woke up like 2 minutes ago from hours sleep so I'm not going to go in depth about anything else, but, and I know this may or may not be a controversial opinion, I don't think the slave bikini is an inherently bad decision. It's not like it's out of place with Jabba. I think the problem is that it's presented in a way that's meant to sexualize it and tantalize for the audience and I think that's where it kind of fucks up and gets weird. I think it's fine to keep the bikini, but instead of emphasizing the sexual nature of the bikini, instead highlight how utterly humiliating and degrading it is for Leia(which would be the point) and allow any sexual experience thag comes from itvto stem simply from it being a bikini and circumstance, not through intention.
I think it's one of the most Iconic scenes in the Star Wars series. Like I've never watched that scene and ogled at Leia, I was worried for her and the others to much for that scene to be sexual for me. When the fighting starts and she takes the chain attached to her collar and uses it to kill Jabba despite being in the slave bikini was very badass.
Well, something that did occur to me after posting was that a TV show around Jaller Obrim and the CSF set around the period of the entire prequel movies will be neat.
It could be a muti-season affair where:
- The first season the CSF are basically doing normal SWAT stuff against Corosucant's underbelly with a plot arc midway that has them tracking down leads of missing explosives that climax in Padme's assassination attempt.
- Second Season, has them having to deal with repercussions and basically doing the investigation that leads to "the spice miners". Maybe with a few instigations into the Assassin to help set the tone that the Jedi aren't the only one working. Climax will of course be the declaration of WAR and maybe that bit where Kal first meets the CSF
- 3rd and 4th season, the event's of Triple Zero
- 5th Season can be the Clone Wars Coruscant stuff etc
The idea being that as the Timeline progressed, Jaller finds himself turning more and more into the tool used to suppress the population under the "necessary measures" and fear of the Seperatists that Palpatine strokes.
One reason i think it should be Jaller instead of just a Clone Commando show is because i think this will also allow for opportunities to show Palpatine's manipulations and fear stroking that explain why people were so accepting of the change to Empire.
Maybe bits of him appearing in a holo making a speech, Reports of victories and losses, posters decrying the Jedi etc. A kind of POV on the ground where the apathy of the citizens in the Capital towards the war can be shown until it strikes home with the Raid where they then charged towards Oppression as long as it guarantees Security.
I'm not sure if this counts as a TV Pitch, but i think titlewise: Triple Zero like the novel has a really nice ring to it.
P.S: In regards to Harrison Ford, i guess Boba doesn't need to be a direct clone of Jango to avoid the face issue? Maybe he was a adopted foundling that Jango picked up ala Din Dijarin. Or if the Clone Son narrative is important, maybe Boba had work done on his face.
Sounds pretty similar to this idea George had OTL where he wanted to make a live action television show called "Underworld" focused on the Coruscant local levels and the lives of people there as the saga moves forward. Has very similar vibes to Andor mixed with Cowboy Bebop and John Wick but unfortunately never saw the light of day due to the budget being huge AF and there not being enough public interest and justification. If Star Wars performs bigger and we keep Lucasfilms independent than maybe George can see the show come to life.
It sits on the shelf. We have 50 hours. We are trying to figure out a different way of making movies. We are looking for a different technology that we can use, that will make it economically feasible to shoot the show. Right now, it looks like the Star Wars features. But we have to figure out...
It's late and I just woke up like 2 minutes ago from hours sleep so I'm not going to go in depth about anything else, but, and I know this may or may not be a controversial opinion, I don't think the slave bikini is an inherently bad decision. It's not like it's out of place with Jabba. I think the problem is that it's presented in a way that's meant to sexualize it and tantalize for the audience and I think that's where it kind of fucks up and gets weird. I think it's fine to keep the bikini, but instead of emphasizing the sexual nature of the bikini, instead highlight how utterly humiliating and degrading it is for Leia(which would be the point) and allow any sexual experience thag comes from itvto stem simply from it being a bikini and circumstance, not through intention.
I think it's one of the most Iconic scenes in the Star Wars series. Like I've never watched that scene and ogled at Leia, I was worried for her and the others to much for that scene to be sexual for me. When the fighting starts and she takes the chain attached to her collar and uses it to kill Jabba despite being in the slave bikini was very badass.
Good points. I guess overall it just depends on the rolls and how the public reacts to that along with Carrie having a good performance. Although to me, Lucasfilm really didn't help the situation by releasing a ton of modeling photospreads of Carrie in the bikini, having her in the bikini being on all the posters, and doing a rolling stones sexy beach photo shoot in it. Probably best to let Carrie take the lead and film the scene with how she wants to. If nothing else she's got her husband at her back as Executive Producer and I think by Return Carrie will definitely become a Lucasfilms co-owner.
We should make planets based on Countries.. (For Star Wars)
My Proposal Planet:
Germaineya, Germaine System
Type of Planet: Forested with Rich Minerals
Specialities: Sciences and Engineering
Capital: Börnlin
Other Major Cities: Froughtfurt, Bayrnich, Kingsburg, Hassburg, Wienya.
Language Majority: Deutschain
Type of Government: Representive Federal Constitutional Republic (we can make it Monarchy)
Current Chancellor (or Kaiserin): Aust-Marie von Vislarck
Also if Harrison Ford is going to play Boba, whose going to play Jango in the prequels because unless it's a 90's film then we'd have to get someone else cause he'd be too old. Going to be weird seeing a million CGI Harrisons in Attack of the Clones.
Weirdly, you could play into that and have the reason Boba looks differently to the rest of the clones is that he was naturally grown, and have Jango and the Clones look the same (and played by the same actor) due to the Kaminoans being very controlling and exact with their creations, making them look as close to the original as possible.
Why would Luke be going to Naboo? Would it be a Rebel stronghold and one of the few planets in open rebellion, and the Endor plan takes place in Theed?
Yes to both, seeing as I figure that due to Naboo being both on the Hyperspace Lanes and Palpatine's homeworld, Imperial presence would have been very prominent for most of the Empire's history (and essentially treated as Vichy France) and it wouldn't be until Alderaan's destruction that it would launch into open Rebellion after becoming home to the Republic In Exile, with Vader's visit to Padme's Tomb being the last truly Imperial presence to leave the planet (and coincidentally, marking the last time he'd been to Mustafar).
By the way, I think there's something we can do with Yavin IV's "close" proximity to Mandalore when Boba Fett shows up.
Also since Winter is not present in New Hope (kind of disappointed because I could have sworn Magoose was hinting Linda having a new part as compensation), would it be good to have her introduced in Empire or is she just not cut out for the OT?
You mean, do we want to introduce the Clone Wars two decades early, or instead tackle a different era?
Because if we're talking a different era, my vote is the Pre-Republic Era so that we can get much of the ancient lore established, while at the same time using the framing device of Luke Skywalker discovering all of this in what remains of the Jedi Archives as an excuse to have Mark Hamill be the narrator, occasionally swapping off to other characters (and actors) when relevant [Han Solo reads Corellia and the Green Jedi, Leia about Alderaan, etc.].
I've been thinking of a small scene where Luke and Leia are talking and Luke says how Tatooine sucks by the iconic "I hate sand" line. It'll be a nice throwback when the prequels come out.
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