TBF, Mags, you have been doing a lot of the heavylifting for the quest, so this will be in good hands.
To be clear to everyone, this is just me burning out on imagination of the quest, since my muse has been hitting me over the head a lot with so many different ideas that I just can't find myself too interested in this.
I'll still hang out here, though, since this still does have a sepcial place in my heart.
I'd like to thank you all for making this a wonderful experience while it lasted.
I'd also like to thank @Magoose, @Fluffy_serpent, and @Martin Noctis for doing so much to help prepare and write this quest. I couldn't have done it without you all.
Oh dear, February 1984. OTL, Walter Murch began shooting Return to Oz, but production was so chaotic that Disney ended up firing him. It took guys like Francis Ford Coppola, George Lucas, and Steven Spielberg stepping up to advocate for Murch that the studio re-hired him; Lucas even made himself a guarantor as Murch's replacement as director if things didn't work out.
It's one main reason Lucas was given a "Special Thanks" credit.
Oh dear, February 1984. OTL, Walter Murch began shooting Return to Oz, but production was so chaotic that Disney ended up firing him. It took guys like Francis Ford Coppola, George Lucas, and Steven Spielberg stepping up to advocate for Murch that the studio re-hired him; Lucas even made himself a guarantor as Murch's replacement as director if things didn't work out.
It's one main reason Lucas was given a "Special Thanks" credit.
Well, I wonder if Disney would still take the advice from the Co-Owner of one of their rivals, even if they're still technicallly on friendly terms.
Not to mention that with Roy still in a small coma (if I'm understanding it correctly) then this means that leadership goes to Ron Miller who... let's say, was never the most assertive man for the job.
God, let's hope there is a Dinsey to lead by the time Roy awakens.
Not to mention that with Roy still in a small coma (if I'm understanding it correctly) then this means that leadership goes to Ron Miller who... let's say, was never the most assertive man for the job.
We need more Muppets. Not necessarily movies, but just a lot more minor gigs. Really turn them into actors and bring em to life by making them do commercials, news, commentaries, maybe even documentaries and natgeo type stuff.
You mean the Hollywood Entente stuff? It's not a trilogy, each of the studios that are part of the Entente is making one movie covering a period of American history. We have the American Revolution. We also just failed the roll for that action, which led to Roy Disney ending up in the hospital.
Oooohhhh, iirc we had a set timeline for CP stuff. Maybe a "Rise of Arasaka" sort of thing. Either a miniseries or something for TV. Let Kurosawa focus on the family drama and cutthroat politics or whatever he likes.
"Acquire the rights for the complete works of H.P. Lovecraft for $100 million"
I forgot about this.
We should have Gamera fight off Cthulhu... eat turtle poop, Toho!
Law Abiding Citizen is one of those movies that really stand out and can be seen as timeless in my opinion. It introduces an unforgettable hero and villain, who can be best called as Anti-Hero and Anti-Villain in some way, and makes you root for the latter while at the same time hoping that there might be some way that he can survive.
It is truly one of the best movies I have ever seen, both in execution and in entertainment. It was not something I expected when I first turned to it, as I was just looking for something to kill time with at the time. That's the beauty of this film, it grabs you from the beginning with the over-the-top violence and injustice, and then the sweet, sweet satisfaction of revenge as you see Shelton finally give them what they owe. Jamie Foxx's performance was also amazing, as it would have been so easy to make him a righteous hero or a more likeable character, but he straddled the line between outright amoral asshole, and caring, concerned man.
...There's just one small flaw in my opinion; the ending. I'm sorry, but Nick being able to find the bomb in the office, just there, because of some small mistake Clyde made? No. The entire movie is about Clyde not making mistakes when preparing, so this is just some clear Deus Ex Machina to make him lose in the end. Which is why, if there is one change I'll make to the film, is that in the end, although Shelton still dies to the bomb, that was all part of his plan to distract Nick from the other bomb that he'd already put in the mayor's office.
Thus, I give you:
Movie Pitch: Law Abiding Citizen GENRE: Crime/Thriller/Mystery
SUBGENRE: Drama/Suspense/Action
FORMAT: Movie
Set Up: The plot focuses on a man who, ten years after his wife and daughter are brutally murdered, returns to exact justice from the assistant district attorney who prosecuted the case against their killers. His vengeance threatens not only the man who allowed mercy to supersede justice, but also the system and the city that made it so.
Director: Michael Scorsese Composer: Michael Kamen
- The ending is changed. Though Nick and Shelton's final interaction remains the same, when Nick prepares for the blast and destruction of Shelton's prison cell, instead there is no explosion. When rising and looking around, he is contacted and told that just now, the entire building where the mayor was holding an emergency meeting was blown up. Nick then remembers what Bray told him about Shelton never making a mistake, realizing that he found the bomb because Shelton wanted him to find it.
As he moves to confront Shelton once more, the bomb in Shelton's room explodes, throwing him off his feet. He once more realizes, Shelton never expected to get away with anything. But he would punish himself rather than let Nick or anyone of the corrupt system do it.
Nick, now having learned his lesson, takes a break from his work to spend time with his family.
Nicholas "Nick" Rice: He is Philadelphia's hotshot attorney, whose actions of freeing the criminal who killed Clyde's wife and daughter led him to getting the law into his own hands. Nick is a very selfish person at first, not caring so much about justice, but instead about his conviction rate, excusing his actions as "The system being imperfect". Through the entire movie he refuses to take responsibility for his actions, even when friends die in front of him. Eventually he learns his lesson, if a bit too late however.
Played By: Billy Dee Williams Alternate: Keith David
Mayor April Henry: She is the incumber Mayor of Philadelphia, the one that is in the known about the killings going on during Shelton's rampage of revenge. When told about the situation, after the death of Nick's partner, while he prepares to resign, she instead decided to angrily appoint him as Acting District Attorney and lock the city down, hoping that a firm hand will stop Shelton, but also will increase her rating numbers for her to gain re-election. She dies by Shelton's bomb in the end.
Played By: Anna Maria Horsford Alternate: Diana Ross
Jonas Cantrell: He is Philadelphia's District Attorney, Nick's friend and partner during the investigation on the murders going on in the city by Shelton's plan and vengeance. He is the one that has Nick make a deal with Shelton in order to get first the confession out of him, and then helped contact a CIA agent that would give them the information about Shelton's past and his actions. He dies by a weaponized bomb disposal robot after the funeral of a friend.
Played By: Seymour Cassel Alternate: George C. Scott
Clyde Shelton: He is an engineer turned vigilante not only trying to exact vengeance on his family killers, but the people he thinks are corrupt. A former asset from the CIA, his ability to predict and kill targets without being in the same room was considered perfect. After the death of his wife and daughter, and seeing the killer let go by making a plea bargain, he dedicates the next ten years planning his vengeance, as well as to show how corrupt the system truly is in order to make a true impact.
Played By: Mel Gibson Alternate: Robert De Niro
Sarah Lowell: She is Nick's assistant and the one who, because of her dating a different person later on, manages to contribute to finding out the truth about how Shelton is achieving the killings while also being in his prison cell. Sarah aids Nick through the entire film, keeping a positive attitude, yet dies during one of Shelton's attacks of vengeance.
Played By: Nancy Allen Alternate: Sarah Douglass
Bray: He is Cantrell's contact in the CIA, and one of the men who knew Shelton when he was working for them. Bray is rightfully terrified of Shelton while divulging the information, as he recounts many of his past exploits, and how he can't be stopped when he wants you dead. Only going and putting a bullet in his head now would stop Shelton.
Played By: David Strathairn Alternate: Tony Sirico
Clarence Darby: He is a psychotic criminal personally responsible for murdering Clyde's wife and daughter. Darby made a Plea Bargain with Nick so that his partner would get all the blame and he would get to walk free, which was accepted as Nick did not wish to get his conviction rating down. Darby was eventually found, tortured and finally killed by Shelton ten years after.
Played By: Tom Atkins Alternate: Tony Plana
Warden Iger: He is the warden in charge of the prison where Shelton is to be incarcerated. His fussy nature and attention to protocol causes the initial deal with Shelton to be late, and thus causes the death of Reynolds as well.
Played By: Clu Gulager
Judge Laura Burch: She was the judge that sentenced Shelton when he was captured. Shelton rebuked her when she allowed herself to be swayed by a technicality and setting a precedent that would allow criminals to go free. She dies during a meeting with Nick and Cantrell.
Played By: Marianne Muellerleile
Bill Reynolds: He was Darby's lawyer, and one of Shelton's victims when he began his vengeance spree. He was captured and set in a room with a time-mechanized device, which when the time struck, had him suffocate in said small room.
Played By: Scott Wilson
Rupert Ames: He is a thug who assisted Darby in the home invasion, and was set to take the fall after Darby made a deal with Nick. He died before Darby, and the information about it was what set Darby to be captured by Shelton.
Played By: Robert Patrick
A.N.: I think Martin Scorsese can make this movie truly shine, and his downright dark and gritty style for urban films could fit perfectly here as well. That he can also write ambiguous endings where you're not sure if in the end justice prevailed is a point in his favor as well. I think if we can make this movie then it should be done for an 85' release, or perhaps an 86' one.
By the way has anyone seen "The Irregular at Magic High School"? It's a light novel/anime series that depicts a future world where magic and technology have blended together. It's honestly one of the coolest concepts and settings that I have ever seen within anime and the setting and power system is so cool, but it's completely and utterly ruined by the incest OTP pairing between the two sibling leads (Like hardcore Sweet Alabama Targareyan stuff) and the protagonist being an OP Mary Sue with the personality of a plank of wood. I was planning on pitching a manga version of the series for Marvel here with completely reworked leads and a different main story. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated
[]THe Olympics Coming Again (So Bruce, what is the plan for the Olympics... oh wait)
[]The Game will be done in a month, or so help me (The Lucasarts team making the game did it in a month... and its really damn good)
[]SEGA! (Oh my. Who decided to restart the video game industry with a bang. Sega that's who.)
[]The Action is cool (Maybe it will work in first person?)
[]The Master of Madness and the greater force of TEchnology John Carmack (We have given John Carmack an idea. maybe that will lead to something)
By the way has anyone seen "The Irregular at Magic High School"? It's a light novel/anime series that depicts a future world where magic and technology have blended together. It's honestly one of the coolest concepts and settings that I have ever seen within anime and the setting and power system is so cool, but it's completely and utterly ruined by the incest OTP pairing between the two sibling leads (Like hardcore Sweet Alabama Targareyan stuff) and the protagonist being an OP Mary Sue with the personality of a plank of wood. I was planning on pitching a manga version of the series for Marvel here with completely reworked leads and a different main story. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated
I remember reading it a couple years back, but I didn't like it very much and I don't remember much about it. Sorry that I can't really help you there.
This is the part where we ask you if the movie really is that good or if somehow you turned an objectively terrible film into a masterpiece in your mind.
