Lex Sedet In Vertice: A Supervillain in the DCU CK2 quest

What sort of tone should I shoot for with this Quest?

  • Go as crack fueled as you can we want Ambush Bug, Snowflame and Duckseid

    Votes: 30 7.7%
  • Go for something silly but keep a little bit of reason

    Votes: 31 7.9%
  • Adam West Camp

    Votes: 27 6.9%
  • Balanced as all things should be

    Votes: 195 50.0%
  • Mostly serious but not self-involvedly so

    Votes: 73 18.7%
  • Dark and brooding but with light at the end of the tunnel

    Votes: 12 3.1%
  • We're evil and we don't want anyone to be happy

    Votes: 22 5.6%

  • Total voters
    390
  • Poll closed .
Looking at this trait and Lex's generally high cooperation score with his hero units. Is there any action that we really want to do a cosmic success on? It would be nice and might improve many of our hero unit co-op with each other.
this has been a personal hope of mine but considering that the DC just dropped I hope we could start a cult of personality around Lexcorp. if we put both Lex and Ivy on it we will succeeded by a huge margin. I have two main hopes for the outcome of this action.
1. inspire our hero units to have more coop scores with Lex giving us more actions.
2. make it even harder for industrial spy's and leaks to happen at LexCorp.
also the idea of running a business cult sounds really cool
 
How about we create a search engine and control how everyone views the world though our filters?
[ ] Learn magic yourself
DC ??? (Lex Luthor must be assigned to this action) Rebecca has begun uncovering how magic works. Perhaps it's time you tried your hand at sorcery. Increasing your personal power will help you even out the playing field when more powered individuals inevitably get in your way
Or this. This feels like something that we could really use a cosmic success on. We could assign all our magic units to the action. They mostly get along with each other.
 
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Cassandra just learned how to talk and is still rather new at conversation. She is not equipped to run a company and she lacks discretion on what she should and shouldn't say. Like imagine Lois starts interviewing her and Cassandra mentions how Dr. Moon stuck extra arms on a monkey or how Lex had her fight against adults and learn to use weaponry or how he took her on a vacation to Markovia at the exact time that things went wrong in Markovia or how she spent a few months sneaking around the building and breaking every gun she could find.

Cassandra is better but she is still a neophyte at social interaction and would make mistakes when up against the media that would paint her or LexCorp in a bad light.
@King crimson

Has Cassandra's Diplomacy raised from learning to speak at all or is it still at 1?

Then it sounds to me that the next Cassie Learning Action should be this:

[ ] [Cass] Educate Cassandra on behavior and diplomacy
DC 13 (Cassandra must be assigned to this option for it to be taken (Learning)) As your adopted daughter Cassandra Cain will be thrust into the spotlight when the media learns of her. You have no intention of leaving her to be exploited by those vultures. Teaching Cassandra how to act in set situations will increase her ability to deal with others and will teach her the ever important trait of manipulation. Being able to twist others to your own ends is something you excel at and it will open up doors for Cassandra later in life.
 
@King crimson: Hmm, adding the Gravity Counteragent would still be an easy upgrade, and better to have it than not need it. Plus, depending on how exactly it works, the required secondary "powers" could still benefit Bone Growth in general.

Though really, I'm saying all this for two reasons. First, the DC Universe is filled with so much weird stuff I can imagine it proving useful. Second, the Bone Growth Serum is our "Martial Enhancer" so upgrading it to resist as many forms as damage as possible is a good idea.

Huh, actually, how did the test subjects handle electrocution? In addition, how does the super-bone compare to our armor and other materials? I know it has to be useful enough for something, and it is a relatively cheap super-material we can mass produce.
 
Has anyone made an Excel sheet (or better yet Google drive sheet). To easily calculate bonuses of hero units working together on different projects? If no one has I will make it.
 
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@King crimson
In regards to the blackmail file option. I've noticed that Lois Lane's would have a DC of 379, is this because it would be so hard to find something at all she is that clean, or there are many little things and only one in a dozen would make her pause and we have to find the right one? Also General Eiling's option has a DC of 2, how is it Lois hasn't reported on it if its so easy to acquire, or would it involve actually breaking into his home and Lois just won't cross that line? Could we create an option on blackmail that is less make a file, and more find a trail and anonymously give it to the media? It would cause our target to scramble and plug their leaks/destroy their evidence.

Also you said earlier in the thread that "throwing a company party" can get us units on a high roll, and "give bonuses to employees" raises co-op scores, what does the option "throw a party" do? Is it just hero units of our choice? What option would be best to get us Stewardship oriented heroes?

I think next turn we should learn magic, just to see what the basics do for us and if we should go deeper into that path.
 
@King crimson: Hmm, adding the Gravity Counteragent would still be an easy upgrade, and better to have it than not need it. Plus, depending on how exactly it works, the required secondary "powers" could still benefit Bone Growth in general.

Though really, I'm saying all this for two reasons. First, the DC Universe is filled with so much weird stuff I can imagine it proving useful. Second, the Bone Growth Serum is our "Martial Enhancer" so upgrading it to resist as many forms as damage as possible is a good idea.

Huh, actually, how did the test subjects handle electrocution? In addition, how does the super-bone compare to our armor and other materials? I know it has to be useful enough for something, and it is a relatively cheap super-material we can mass produce.
I mean I'm comfortable throwing in an option to take the counteragent and combine it with the bone growth formula but I can say it will effectively be useless as the situation in which it would be useful on earth is absurdly specific (be trapped in a zero gravity environment for months on end) and the fact that nothing stops you from simply taking the counteragent if the need applies (no need to integrate it into the initial dosage if you can just do it later).

The regenerative factors of the bone growth already are superior to anything the counteragent does outside of a zero gravity environment (which is essentially prevent the bones from decaying due to the bizarre environment).

Electroctuion was still possible although at higher voltages then what would normally be needed. It's still a suboptimal way to kill something with the formula.

The armor you have is a more durable material technically as it can stop bullets without breaking. The first few layers of the bone exoskeleton due break when shot with a decently powerful gun. The main strength of the bone formula is its regenerative capabilities (the outer layers break and then swiftly reform) which cannot be replicated when the tissue is not alive. As such it's not a particularly viable material to sell since its best qualities do not work when not attached to a living organism.

@King crimson
In regards to the blackmail file option. I've noticed that Lois Lane's would have a DC of 379, is this because it would be so hard to find something at all she is that clean, or there are many little things and only one in a dozen would make her pause and we have to find the right one? Also General Eiling's option has a DC of 2, how is it Lois hasn't reported on it if its so easy to acquire, or would it involve actually breaking into his home and Lois just won't cross that line? Could we create an option on blackmail that is less make a file, and more find a trail and anonymously give it to the media? It would cause our target to scramble and plug their leaks/destroy their evidence.

Also you said earlier in the thread that "throwing a company party" can get us units on a high roll, and "give bonuses to employees" raises co-op scores, what does the option "throw a party" do? Is it just hero units of our choice? What option would be best to get us Stewardship oriented heroes?

I think next turn we should learn magic, just to see what the basics do for us and if we should go deeper into that path.
Lois Lane's high blackmail DC is a combination of a few things. She doesn't particularly trust you so its harder to find stuff on her, she is very clean and lacks a clear scandal in her background and most of the failures you could find on her she wouldn't care about.

General Eiling's DC is so low because he trusts you specifically and doesn't bother to hide things from you. Like just from the Project Atom data you have physical evidence that he is conducting human experimentation. The fact that is low is abnormal and is because Eiling has set himself up in such a way that you could easily blackmail him if you chose to do so.

On the other hand the DC of finding out Eiling's secrets is much higher for Lois as he has actively taken steps to hide this information from her and prevent her from finding stuff out as he doesn't trust or like her.

Once you have compiled the file you can then choose to leak it or use it yourself. The option already exists it's just contingent on you having something to leak in the first place.

Through a party allows you to send invites out to many units and make connections less related to LexCorp. Think of it like the Wayne Party only you get to send out the invites to as many people as you want and establish the rules of the party.

The best option for collecting specifically Stewardship hero units under your control would be the action that got you Felicity and Carl as that is tailored to doing such things. If you want me to say which example is best from the party options you listed then the "Throw a Party" option is best even if it tends to give alliances more than actual hero units under your control.
 
I've updated the post humanist options with the bone growth formula. I'll also be adding the Language Learning spell to it soon.
 
@King crimson: So... we could combine Organic/Living Armor with the Bone Growth Serum then, to create regenerative armor. Hmm, we do have nanotech, but our "normal" armor & exosuits have a lot more complexity that nanites would need to account for.

Pro, Bone Armor can't be hacked / magnetically manipulated / EMP fried... Con, we can't trick it out as much, meaning it would be better suited as pure defense.

Still, the Meta-Bone does provide superb defenses, and it would only get better as we improve the Bone Growth Serum further. Like, the main weaknesses bypass the bone altogether, so the only real improvements are to durability and electricity resistance (which is already good).

Hmm... didn't you say we could research ways to use bone once we got the "perfected" Bone Growth serum? Even without the regeneration, it is still a nicely durable heat/electricity resistant material. We could probably also mess with how it generates, letting us shape it into whatever we want.

Oh, actually, did they test how well the Meta-Bone could pierce other materials? If they were straight up bashing the test subjects to death, they must of learned somewhat of the material's offensive potential.
 
Meh. This early the post human options are lackluster. We need more R&D time to transform ourself or every human without the meta-gene to become super soldiers.
 
So I've also added the language learning enhancement to the table of things you can have as an enhancement. It is the least life-altering or invasive so as such it is the one people are most willing to agree to.
@King crimson: So... we could combine Organic/Living Armor with the Bone Growth Serum then, to create regenerative armor. Hmm, we do have nanotech, but our "normal" armor & exosuits have a lot more complexity that nanites would need to account for.

Pro, Bone Armor can't be hacked / magnetically manipulated / EMP fried... Con, we can't trick it out as much, meaning it would be better suited as pure defense.

Still, the Meta-Bone does provide superb defenses, and it would only get better as we improve the Bone Growth Serum further. Like, the main weaknesses bypass the bone altogether, so the only real improvements are to durability and electricity resistance (which is already good).

Hmm... didn't you say we could research ways to use bone once we got the "perfected" Bone Growth serum? Even without the regeneration, it is still a nicely durable heat/electricity resistant material. We could probably also mess with how it generates, letting us shape it into whatever we want.

Oh, actually, did they test how well the Meta-Bone could pierce other materials? If they were straight up bashing the test subjects to death, they must of learned somewhat of the material's offensive potential.
I'm not 100% sure what you're spit-balling with the various armor plans but the end result is probably possible to some extent even if not in the particular way you are going about things (the bone formula only causes bones to regenerate and the living armor doesn't have bones and isn't a bone so it wouldn't regenerate).

There will be more bone research options yes.

The piercing potential is about the same as it is for a regular piece of sharpened bone as it is built in such a way as to distribute force across a space rather than exert pressure on a specific point. The main advantage of the formula's bones is that the person who has the enhancement has slightly enhanced strength and can swing as hard as they like since they don't have to worry about breaking it since it will regenerate.
 
@King crimson
Could the language learning enhancement apply to learning the language of animals? In general and/or in animals like apes and chimpanzees? Could it at all be used to learn computer coding which some people consider a language due to the way its structured? Could it be used to understand binary? What about braille or sign-language? Can it help to develop or break coded language/ciphers with enough time? It would probably need a few actions to do more, but it might be a beneficial side affect that could occur with a good roll since the only person that can test it is Cassandra and its not like we can ask her to relay that to us yet.

We should have Marie get this, she is our PR person and we are starting to branch out in the world.
 
@King crimson
Could the language learning enhancement apply to learning the language of animals? In general and/or in animals like apes and chimpanzees? Could it at all be used to learn computer coding which some people consider a language due to the way its structured? Could it be used to understand binary? What about braille or sign-language? Can it help to develop or break coded language/ciphers with enough time? It would probably need a few actions to do more, but it might be a beneficial side affect that could occur with a good roll since the only person that can test it is Cassandra and its not like we can ask her to relay that to us yet.

We should have Marie get this, she is our PR person and we are starting to branch out in the world.
Nope it wouldn't help with animals as that requires a fundamentally different skillset (it enhances what is already there rather than adding a new capability which talking to animals would be).

It could not be applied to coding as both myself and the people I consult to check computer stuff considered it closer to logic formulation than an actual language. As such it wouldn't do much to teach you coding.

It could be used to "understand" binary better if you mean using binary as a cypher for another language. However the binary used more often in computing is more equivalent to a punch card that tells you if a value is or is not there and then interprets that into a specific output (which is not really language). It doesn't help with binary being used to program things.

It could help with braille or sign language and it can do cyphers and hidden languages with enough time and samples (it doesn't cause you to learn things out of a vacuum you have to have a good amount of exposure to it).
 
The gravity counteragent deals with the effects of zero gravity on bones which causes them to lose 1-2% of their mass for every month in that environment. Basically it prevents the loss of mass in a zero gravity environment. The counteragent is not useful for anything on earth because it is a counter to conditions not found on earth.
Hmmm. Developing a gravity counteragent... um, when did we hear about that?

It sounds like another great application for "low-key" forms of the bone growth formula.

Cassandra just learned how to talk and is still rather new at conversation. She is not equipped to run a company and she lacks discretion on what she should and shouldn't say. Like imagine Lois starts interviewing her and Cassandra mentions how Dr. Moon stuck extra arms on a monkey or how Lex had her fight against adults and learn to use weaponry or how he took her on a vacation to Markovia at the exact time that things went wrong in Markovia or how she spent a few months sneaking around the building and breaking every gun she could find.
Well yes. Cassandra Luthor is a child. I would think no reasonable person would expect her to run a Fortune 500 company; that would be quite unreasonable even if she were nominally sole stockholder. We'd have to appoint someone as caretaker- among other things because she is not an emancipated minor and doesn't have the legal authority to sign contracts. It'd probably have to be Mercy or Pamela; I don't think there's anyone else we can trust that much.

We may actually want to think about doing that. And, as noted, the problem with Pamela is that she may need someone to rein her in from getting into counterproductive clashes and irrationally seeing people as enemies... And I feel deeply ironic saying that knowing that within a year or two we're going to get into a totally unnecessary rivalry with Superman that serves no useful purpose whatsoever and will be one of the defining conflicts of Lex Luthor's life. :p

You aren't wrong. She took over the company in the DCAU and ran it competently if not amazingly. The thing was she didn't have multiple highly unstable individuals in her company so it was significantly easier to run when not having to deal with literally any of the hero units you have. That's why I think it would break down because while Mercy has the business acumen and understanding to organize and make use of these individuals she lacks the charisma to get them to do what she wants and thus would have to waste lots of time and resources putting out fires.
Yeah, frankly. We've hired a lot of people no sane manager should have to work with.

Given Mercy's "ruthlessly effective" persona I could totally imagine her rundown being something like:

"Well, I can't let the company outright crash, and if I try to do some of this stuff it'll crash. Soooo. Okay, Marie is in charge of handling Ivo, and Scudder is in charge of handling Marie. Carol, Mari, and Oswald can run their own branches like private fiefdoms for all I care, just as long as they get results. Rebecca, we don't really like each other, but you do your job and I respect that; let's try to work together and at least keep these wards up. Cerise, you're working for Rebecca until you can convince me Rebecca should be working for you, as long as neither of you sabotages the company somehow. Mr. Nygma, I'd like to call you up; there's something here in Mr. Luthor's instructions about a promotion for you. Ah, good, there you are. *BLAM* There, I've been meaning to dispose of that corpse for quite some time. Oh, and Rebecca, Dr. Moon has become a liability, would you mind helping me out by incinerating him? Thank you."

That should reduce her problems down to something more manageable, but you're not wrong that it'd be tough for her.

what i'm hearing is we need an "in case Lex disappears" protocol to make sure everything doesn't completely go to hell while he is gone/if he dies
Now that you mention it, yes.

On the other hand, Lex is so egotistical that he might not really be capable of planning seriously for such a thing, unless, say, he was planning to personally do something that might leave him out of contact for several months and knew it.

@Simon_Jester hey simon would you mind spending some of your i don`t know how much xp reward on say that maybe?

haveing someone around the catch the ball if/when it falls would be nice
I fail to see how my spending XP on the problem would help directly. I mean, if you're talking about buying up Mercy Graves' Diplomacy to somewhere in the 20s, that is a big expenditure. :p

@King crimson

Has Cassandra's Diplomacy raised from learning to speak at all or is it still at 1?

Also I went through the Cooperation scores and the person best suited to keeping people together is Roxanne!

Most of the people who wouldn't immediately bail like her, so while she would never end up in charge she'd probably be the kingmaker...

I'm not sure how I feel about that.
Yeah, I've noticed it myself. She'd actually be pretty good at leading megacollaborations, though it's somewhat complicated by the fact that her co-op score tends to be high with a few people who specialize in each area. And that her own stats are low-teens in all areas so she can't run the megacollaborations in the first place. It's one reason I've been investing a few thousand XP in her stats; I'd like her to be able to lead teams.

well there is a word for that and it is Lexbot's. it worked for doom it can work for us
We'd need to research AI (not out of reach) and the equivalent of a Live Model Decoy, which is explicitly an action we can take though our current 'dummy bots' are nonsapient and won't pass as the real thing except from long distances for short periods of time.

But we could totally invent Lexbots if we worked at it.

Looking at this trait and Lex's generally high cooperation score with his hero units. Is there any action that we really want to do a cosmic success on? It would be nice and might improve many of our hero unit co-op with each other.
I think we should definitely look for Stewardship and Diplomacy and optionally Learning actions that we want to succeed hard on and start taking them as 3-4 hero unit megacollaborations with Lex in charge. We should also do megacollaborations on Intrigue and Learning with Lex+Cass+_____. Those are areas where Cass's maxed out co-op score pays off the hardest, and where we can be reasonably confident of a success that dings us with one additional hero unit. This is what I tried to do with Lex+Mercy+Ivo on A.M.A.Z.O., but it didn't work because I screwed up the math.

Maybe we should go over the Red Tornado data with him. T. O. Morrow clearly succeeded in building a fully sentient android, and that would almost certainly help Ivo put together a few more pieces of the puzzle.

Now, a Lex+Cass+Ivo+Marie collaboration has a combined raw bonus of:

36+(2*(17-1))+(0.35*33)+(1.5*7) = +91 on the die roll.

Very high likelihood (91 or 92 percent, I think) of critting A.M.A.Z.O. and getting a roll of 2d100+182+15+7, or 2d100+204. Will fail without a crit, though.

On the other hand, maybe we should go over the Red Tornado data without Ivo. Obviously that makes building a good megacollaboration easy; there are plenty of characters that get along great with Lex. And if we're not specifically working on A.M.A.Z.O. ourselves,

@King crimson , how does Ivo feel about going over the Red Tornado data? It's not his A.M.A.Z.O. project, but it's the most successful 'build an android' project in all of human history to date that we know of, from one of the few scientific minds in history that could compare with him, and we have detailed information that might very specifically help him figure this stuff out.

The Ghost of Leonardo Luthor:

"I will say, my in-house fellow scientific genius was much easier to work with. Dr. Proteus wouldn't have given me so many troubles. Though this notion of automaton bodies... quite over my head, I'm afraid. Would have been quite a kind thing for Dr. Proteus."

[shakes his head]

this has been a personal hope of mine but considering that the DC just dropped I hope we could start a cult of personality around Lexcorp. if we put both Lex and Ivy on it we will succeeded by a huge margin. I have two main hopes for the outcome of this action.
1. inspire our hero units to have more coop scores with Lex giving us more actions.
2. make it even harder for industrial spy's and leaks to happen at LexCorp.
also the idea of running a business cult sounds really cool
I actually agree.

Then it sounds to me that the next Cassie Learning Action should be this:

[ ] [Cass] Educate Cassandra on behavior and diplomacy
DC 13 (Cassandra must be assigned to this option for it to be taken (Learning)) As your adopted daughter Cassandra Cain will be thrust into the spotlight when the media learns of her. You have no intention of leaving her to be exploited by those vultures. Teaching Cassandra how to act in set situations will increase her ability to deal with others and will teach her the ever important trait of manipulation. Being able to twist others to your own ends is something you excel at and it will open up doors for Cassandra later in life.
The only problem with this is that the obvious choice is either Lex (who's really busy) or, well... our main Diplomacy experts are Pamela (which doesn't work, she likes Cass too well) and Oswald (who spends like 2/3 of his time working on the TV channel). So it may be a while. I think I'd like to have Lex work on adulty things for a while.
 
Maybe we should go over the Red Tornado data with him. T. O. Morrow clearly succeeded in building a fully sentient android, and that would almost certainly help Ivo put together a few more pieces of the puzzle.
I suggest Lex goes over the Red Tornado data while Ivo goes over the "Super Tank" since Ivo has the Trait to get the most out of it. Or they work on both together.
 
@King crimson: Hmm, adding the Gravity Counteragent would still be an easy upgrade, and better to have it than not need it. Plus, depending on how exactly it works, the required secondary "powers" could still benefit Bone Growth in general.

Though really, I'm saying all this for two reasons. First, the DC Universe is filled with so much weird stuff I can imagine it proving useful. Second, the Bone Growth Serum is our "Martial Enhancer" so upgrading it to resist as many forms as damage as possible is a good idea.

Huh, actually, how did the test subjects handle electrocution? In addition, how does the super-bone compare to our armor and other materials? I know it has to be useful enough for something, and it is a relatively cheap super-material we can mass produce.
It may not actually be a super-material. Also, the process of 'harvesting' the material would require us to keep a stable of human beings constantly regenerating and having slabs of their exoskeletons sliced away. Which we could do, but it would be a walking invitation for a scandal, and someone would sooner or later ask where we were getting this material that looks suspiciously like human bone.

If we find a way to grow it in culture (providing nutrients to altered bone cells taken from a donor), then I'm all for it. Sure it's arguably unethical to just take parts of someone's body and keep growing a ton of them, but that's a normal level of unethical behavior, not the kind of hyper-horrible thing that gets you wrecked.

Meh. This early the post human options are lackluster. We need more R&D time to transform ourself or every human without the meta-gene to become super soldiers.
Frankly yes. The bone growth formula is an interesting precursor in that it makes it very clear that there's some phenomenal potential for regeneration and tissue enhancement. But it's got the disfiguring problem; that is not just a cosmetic issue, because it affects things like "ability to use equipment designed for normal humans" and may cause weird problems like what killed the canon Dr. Helfern: injuries to specific body parts causing the bone to regenerate counterproductively in directions that crush the subject's organs.

This is why I keep stumping for a low-key version of the formula.

So I've also added the language learning enhancement to the table of things you can have as an enhancement. It is the least life-altering or invasive so as such it is the one people are most willing to agree to.
I like how Lex's reaction is "I could have a spell cast upon me that takes this aspect of the human mind and makes it perfect, but no. No need to improve me; I'm already Lex Luthor."

Alternatively: "Why would I want to learn languages slower, Ms. Carstairs?"

Also, my impression was that it wouldn't take Rebecca that long to cast the spell. If there's a "cast language boost" action option, could we take one action and get multiple heroes enhanced? It would seem reasonable under the circumstances, and it wouldn't be especially overpowered since we already have a mechanical universal translator that our characters can use any time they want anyway.

Nope it wouldn't help with animals as that requires a fundamentally different skillset (it enhances what is already there rather than adding a new capability which talking to animals would be).
Clearly the spell wouldn't grant the ability to speak the language of non-sentient beasts.

But... If there were a species of animal that was sentient like humans (say, elephants), could we use it to learn their language if we had an existing teacher who understood both languages and could translate?

What about space aliens? If we were dealing with, say, a bunch of Thanagarians who don't speak any Earthly language, could the spell help us to learn their language? What if, again, we had the services of a translator?

Could the spell be used in combination with a universal translator to rapidly learn a whole lot of languages by understanding them and hearing them at the same time? Or would the universal translator just make it so you never realized you were being spoken to in foreign languages, and so you wouldn't learn them?

It could not be applied to coding as both myself and the people I consult to check computer stuff considered it closer to logic formulation than an actual language. As such it wouldn't do much to teach you coding.
It'd help you learn the command set and syntax of a new programming language, and maybe remember it a bit better so that you could code a little faster without having to look as many things up. But I'm pretty sure those aren't the main limiting factors in coding ability, so it'd be at most a small augmentation.

I suggest Lex goes over the Red Tornado data while Ivo goes over the "Super Tank" since Ivo has the Trait to get the most out of it. Or they work on both together.
The super tank is almost totally unrelated to A.M.A.Z.O. aside from being very advanced tech. I'd rather put Ivo on A.M.A.Z.O. directly; at least that way we get spinoff tech whether he succeeds or fails.
 
question, can't seem to find it, but when did we get Bane? Did we hire him?
We didn't. Bane is effectively an independent warlord at this point. But the US military under Eiling is using our PMC, Serial Peacemaking, as a deniable contact with Bane's forces, and that positions us to act as a go-between (thus, for example, he's selling us Venom and selling captured Intergang tech to the US with us as a middleman).

So as long as we keep taking 'help out in Santa Prisca' options, we keep getting 'Bane do this' options. We may at some point decide we don't want to bother with that anymore, but it paid off last turn, in that we got the formula for Venom and our ally Eiling got alien tech that helped him make the Captain Atom project a success, at least insofar as Captain Atom is a thing now.
 
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