In addition to those magic opportunities we also should not ignore Azerath the layline and lastly the magic auction
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Lex Sedet In Vertice: A Supervillain in the DCU CK2 quest
- Thread starter King crimson
- Start date
- Superhero
- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
You magnificent bastard. It never crossed my mind- I'd completely forgotten what the Sword of Fan does.
We may want to first turn Venom into a long-term stabilization formula, but it bears considering.
We didn't last time. That may be coincidence. We went after Intergang foot soldiers, too- and at the moments Carl Draper thought it was most convenient to kidnap them. Since Draper is a pretty clever fellow, I imagine he'd choose to try to kidnap them when they were vulnerable, not when they were carrying alien ray guns and shield belts and whatever, if possible.
I think you're right about all of this. Though I'm not sure we can 'control' Lois Lane; she seems stubborn like that.
King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
- Location
- Los Angeles
It's certainly something you can try to do.
Kkutlord
Prince of Breath
- Location
- Indianapolis, Indiana
I feel like the better route would be making the Bone Armor retractable/freely craftable, so that way they can look normal as needed and bring out the armor when necessary.
Really, it is already pretty good, and besides adding esoteric effects it seems like (re)generation speed/efficiency + durability + shapeability are the only things we can do. *Imagines heated/flaming bones like Spyke from X-Men Evolution*
So... seems like the only thing left for "basic" Bone Growth is the ability to freely create bone constructs, maybe add in some prehensile control so we got bone whips and bone hookshots.
Oh, actually, was the Gravity Counteragent finally incorporated into Bone Growth? Not entirely sure what the Gravity Counteragent does overall, but surely it would have a positive effect on durability.
- Location
- The Netherlands
hmmm you know the one problem i see most promenently with the bone growth serum right now is treating internal injuries and surgery if it is necesary, having to work through a tough constantly healing endo skeleton would be really difficult.
could we develop a serum suppressant for those types of situations?
could we develop a serum suppressant for those types of situations?
A child with a new toy
@King crimson Here's an Omake
The Sound-Meanings were awesome!
Cassandra couldn't believe what she had been missing for so long. All her life she had been hearing the strange sounds people made with their mouths and throats, but they were only noise that held no importance to her. She had the Body-Meanings. That was all she needed. She had never imagined that there were Sound-Meanings as well or that they were so important to everybody.
Learning them had changed Cassie's world. People gave her Weird-Looks less often and when they did, they weren't as weird as before. Their Body-Meanings were different now, too. There were less 'I want Cassandra to go away' and 'I'm ready to fight Cassandra' and 'I'm gonna flee as soon as Cassandra is distracted'. Most people's Body-Meanings had become more relaxed and welcoming towards her. Closer to Father's Body-Meaning.
Cassie liked that. A lot.
They were very useful too. All other people weren't as smart as Father and the only way they knew how to communicate was with Sound-Meanings. No, words. They were called words. Now Cassie could understand why they were makings sounds at her. Could understand what they wanted her to know. On the first try; no more trial and error. The games she played with people other than Father were now easier to learn. And to win.
And all the other people could also understand her better now. It was much faster to get Pink Haired Pale Girl to play with her. Or get Rocket Lady to play the exact game Cassie wanted. Or get Plant Lady to give her the exact prize Cassie was after, and no other.
No, Jinx, Roxy, and Pam. Cassie had learnt that people had Sound-Meanings called names that identified them among their own, and those people's were Jinx, Roxy, and Pam. Father had taught her that names were important to know, and using them was an important thing called 'politeness' that good daughters did. And Cassie was a good daughter.
Father also had a Name-Sound-Meaning that other people used to identify him. Or rather he had several. Lex. Mr. Luthor. Boss. Sir. But that was other people. Cassie was special and she, only she, was allowed to call him by a special name no one else could use. When Cassie first understood what words and language were, there was immediately one she wanted to learn.
Father.
She learnt that word, and what it meant. And she understood that it couldn't be applied to Old Father. Old Father was never Old Father, he was Old Something Else; she still wasn't clear on what. Therefore, New Father was the only Father Cassie had ever had. He wasn't New Father. He was simply Father.
When she called him that, Father's Body-Meaning told Cassie that he was very pleased and that she had done something very good. That made Cassie happy. Father even patted her head! Nobody other than Cassie, not even the two-headed small animal, could get that from him. And she only got it when she had been exceptional. It was a Super-Special-Reward!
Learning words would have worthwhile for that alone.
Not that all the extras weren't nice. And fun. Cassie had discovered that it was very funny to talk with people that knew her but had never heard her do so. They made funny faces, or tripped, or dropped things. Jinx had been the first, and her eyes had opened so wide they looked about to jump out of her face. Cassie had laughed, and told the older girl that she looked funny. Jinx had stared at her, then said that she knew how to make it even funnier next time. And so it went their first chat.
Jinx had taught her the best times to use her new trick, and accompanied her when Cassie planned to use it. One of the best had been when they surprised the blonde woman called Felicity when she was drinking and got her to spit it onto the woman called Katherine's face. That one had been very funny, and Cassie and Jinx laughed a lot. Later, Father had them apologize to the women, but told Cassie with words and Body-Meaning that he wasn't angry nor disappointed.
Now everybody knew that Cassie could use and understand words, so they couldn't have fun that way anymore, but now Jinx was more willing to spend time with Cassie and play other games with her. And so was everybody else.
Words were a wonderful gift and Cassie would forever be thankful to Father for giving it to her.
A child with a new toy.
The Sound-Meanings were awesome!
Cassandra couldn't believe what she had been missing for so long. All her life she had been hearing the strange sounds people made with their mouths and throats, but they were only noise that held no importance to her. She had the Body-Meanings. That was all she needed. She had never imagined that there were Sound-Meanings as well or that they were so important to everybody.
Learning them had changed Cassie's world. People gave her Weird-Looks less often and when they did, they weren't as weird as before. Their Body-Meanings were different now, too. There were less 'I want Cassandra to go away' and 'I'm ready to fight Cassandra' and 'I'm gonna flee as soon as Cassandra is distracted'. Most people's Body-Meanings had become more relaxed and welcoming towards her. Closer to Father's Body-Meaning.
Cassie liked that. A lot.
They were very useful too. All other people weren't as smart as Father and the only way they knew how to communicate was with Sound-Meanings. No, words. They were called words. Now Cassie could understand why they were makings sounds at her. Could understand what they wanted her to know. On the first try; no more trial and error. The games she played with people other than Father were now easier to learn. And to win.
And all the other people could also understand her better now. It was much faster to get Pink Haired Pale Girl to play with her. Or get Rocket Lady to play the exact game Cassie wanted. Or get Plant Lady to give her the exact prize Cassie was after, and no other.
No, Jinx, Roxy, and Pam. Cassie had learnt that people had Sound-Meanings called names that identified them among their own, and those people's were Jinx, Roxy, and Pam. Father had taught her that names were important to know, and using them was an important thing called 'politeness' that good daughters did. And Cassie was a good daughter.
Father also had a Name-Sound-Meaning that other people used to identify him. Or rather he had several. Lex. Mr. Luthor. Boss. Sir. But that was other people. Cassie was special and she, only she, was allowed to call him by a special name no one else could use. When Cassie first understood what words and language were, there was immediately one she wanted to learn.
Father.
She learnt that word, and what it meant. And she understood that it couldn't be applied to Old Father. Old Father was never Old Father, he was Old Something Else; she still wasn't clear on what. Therefore, New Father was the only Father Cassie had ever had. He wasn't New Father. He was simply Father.
When she called him that, Father's Body-Meaning told Cassie that he was very pleased and that she had done something very good. That made Cassie happy. Father even patted her head! Nobody other than Cassie, not even the two-headed small animal, could get that from him. And she only got it when she had been exceptional. It was a Super-Special-Reward!
Learning words would have worthwhile for that alone.
Not that all the extras weren't nice. And fun. Cassie had discovered that it was very funny to talk with people that knew her but had never heard her do so. They made funny faces, or tripped, or dropped things. Jinx had been the first, and her eyes had opened so wide they looked about to jump out of her face. Cassie had laughed, and told the older girl that she looked funny. Jinx had stared at her, then said that she knew how to make it even funnier next time. And so it went their first chat.
Jinx had taught her the best times to use her new trick, and accompanied her when Cassie planned to use it. One of the best had been when they surprised the blonde woman called Felicity when she was drinking and got her to spit it onto the woman called Katherine's face. That one had been very funny, and Cassie and Jinx laughed a lot. Later, Father had them apologize to the women, but told Cassie with words and Body-Meaning that he wasn't angry nor disappointed.
Now everybody knew that Cassie could use and understand words, so they couldn't have fun that way anymore, but now Jinx was more willing to spend time with Cassie and play other games with her. And so was everybody else.
Words were a wonderful gift and Cassie would forever be thankful to Father for giving it to her.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
I was just reading though the cooperation scores of all our people and I came to two conclusions.
1.Lex is a genius at personal and really his stewardship stat should be even higher than it is to reflect that. What he is managing is incredible.
2.If Lex ever leaves Lexcorp for any significant amount of time I expect it to be destroied by in fighting.
1.Lex is a genius at personal and really his stewardship stat should be even higher than it is to reflect that. What he is managing is incredible.
2.If Lex ever leaves Lexcorp for any significant amount of time I expect it to be destroied by in fighting.
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- Location
- UK
- Location
- The Netherlands
Just as a reminder to everyone Ivo will need his first transplant next turn. and Mari wants to work on her fashion and Oswald most likely on more tv or other media.
also just wanted people to know that cerise calls Janus Orthrus reborn with Orthrus being a 2 headed dog from Greek myth
also just wanted people to know that cerise calls Janus Orthrus reborn with Orthrus being a 2 headed dog from Greek myth
King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
- Location
- Los Angeles
The gravity counteragent deals with the effects of zero gravity on bones which causes them to lose 1-2% of their mass for every month in that environment. Basically it prevents the loss of mass in a zero gravity environment. The counteragent is not useful for anything on earth because it is a counter to conditions not found on earth.
Not 100% sure on this one actually. It's possible but immensely hard to do so. You'd probably be better off trying to find alternate methods of conducting surgery (magic, size changing robots, nanobots etc.) than trying to find a way to temporarily turn off a formula that fundamentally alters the biology of whatever ingests it
I'm happy to canonize this. It works well. Jinx is a little bit more directly nice than she usually is to Cassandra but it works in the greater context of the story. The one thing I will note is that Cassandra talks with a fairly pronounced stutter right now but because she never is quoted as saying something it works out (for example Cassandra would be less likely to say "Father" and would instead say something more like "Fa-fa-father" even if her intention was to say the first one. Because it is all in her head though it is fine.
You've earned 500 exp.
Very true. I was thinking along the lines of staying low in her list of priorities. She's already suspicious of Lex, and if he blocks her too much her suspicions will grow. Lois is as much a Deteminator as Batman and when she feels someone is hiding something big or trying to stop her she goes after that person like a woman possessed till she wins. She accepts no other outcome and never compromises.
Maybe accepting an interview from time to time will keep her undecided about pulling the big guns on Lex.
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Problem is that Lex is the biggest thing in her city and plans on growing bigger.
King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
- Location
- Los Angeles
I'd like to point out that Lex's stewardship stat is at least 5 point higher than every other character encountered in this quest so far and that his high diplomacy also helps him with controlling everything else at LexCorp (because people generally like him or he can find ways to manipulate them socially Lex can very effectively control most people to some degree(.
On your second point I actually vociferously agree. If Lex were to vanish for a year I imagine the following things would likely happen but it wouldn't be limited to just these actions.
- Mercy would struggle to keep everything together
- Cassandra would get completely destroyed by the media circus
- Ivo would die as no one with the expertise or resources to save him cares enough to keep him alive
- Lisa might try to pull a fast one
- Nygma would pull something stupid and get Batman involved
- Dr. Moon might attempt to grab someone in the ensuing chaos or sell out the company to someone else
- Carol would become a lot more shaky in her trust for her corporate overlord.
- Pamela would grow unstable
- Helfern would probably do something dumb
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- Location
- England
- Pronouns
- He/Him
How would Cassandra be destroyed by the media, she can talk now and isn't it public knowledge from a news article that she had learning difficulties?
Also how unstable are we talking for Pamela because she's much better off here.
Worst case scenario for her from my point of view is she publicly uses her powers to stop Dr. Moon and struggles with the publicity. She has a loving girlfriend and several friends in the company. Not to mention that she's a respected figure in environmental regulation.
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She is? Seems I don't have a clear picture of their relationship. I thought Jinx was already used to Cassandra and tolerated her as long as the younger girl wasn't being too disruptive to her.
Rather than being genuinely nice, I wanted to portray Jinx as using Cassandra to have fun by playing on others the prank she herself had to endure, and in the process get a 'maybe she's not so bad' opinion of Cassie. Not sure how to change the omake to get it across better, specially since it's from Cassie's POV and she wouldn't see it that way, being too happy with the change to care about the nuances.
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- Location
- barking
I mean one problem Jinx had with Cassie was that she thought Cassie was stupid for not being able to speak so wouldn't this lessen that
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- Location
- Mid-Atlantic
I'm not opposed to this stuff, but I'd also like to turn the bone growth formula into something a person can take without being massively disfigured so that we can market it to First World militaries as (part of a) a super-soldier formula. We can't realistically sell it that way if it turns people into this.
It may decrease the raw power and durability associated with (that variant of) the formula to do this, but it will also make the formula more versatile and potentially something that can be mixed into a 'cocktail' enhancement formula.
...What?
If you mean "that part of kryptonite that doesn't react to gravity but clearly has inertial mass," then no, we have no idea what that is or how to isolate it.
If you mean anti-gravity tech, we frankly haven't done much of anything with that yet.
This is true. Headpats from Lex Luthor are rare indeed.
His stewardship stat is pretty close to literally the maximum that a human who isn't somehow enhanced in a stewardship-enhancing way can achieve.
For reference, he is nearly as good at managing a corporation as Ignition in full battle armor is at killing people. And Ignition, we've been told, can go toe-to-toe with Superman, at least for a while.
Lex is better at managing a corporation than Pamela with her pheromonal control is at persuading people to do things.
...Very possibly?
Yes, yes, and yes; the operative question is whether Ivo will be able to work this turn. If not, we have a serious problem finishing A.M.A.Z.O., even with megacollaborations- because he's going to need more and more transplants.
Also our supercomputer is currently offline because the Mystery Hacker's death-sound thing accidentally brown-noted it to death without realizing it when we used it to call them.
[This was not Mystery Hacker's fault, to be fair; we went poking around somewhere we shouldn't have]
Maybe. On the other hand, Circe was plugged into Greco-Roman mythology well enough that the mythological imagery of naming the lion after Janus may appeal to her. Or not. dunno.
Cassandra still has a very strange viewpoint and only recently learned to speak. She knows about some of the weird/heinous thing Lex has done but (importantly) doesn't know they are secrets, things like the Markovia infiltration and Moon's medical experiments, to say the least.
The media would zoom in on her and it would be hard for people to keep her out of the public eye without Lex's guardianship.
She's fanatically loyal to Lex Luthor. If Lex Luthor disappeared, she might well do something strange or unpredictable, like demanding that insane measures be taken to find him.
- Location
- alphen aan den rijn
i`m sure i read somewhere that mecry took over for a time at one point and was a fairly good CEO.
not great but pretty good
not great but pretty good
King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
- Location
- Los Angeles
Cassandra just learned how to talk and is still rather new at conversation. She is not equipped to run a company and she lacks discretion on what she should and shouldn't say. Like imagine Lois starts interviewing her and Cassandra mentions how Dr. Moon stuck extra arms on a monkey or how Lex had her fight against adults and learn to use weaponry or how he took her on a vacation to Markovia at the exact time that things went wrong in Markovia or how she spent a few months sneaking around the building and breaking every gun she could find.
Cassandra is better but she is still a neophyte at social interaction and would make mistakes when up against the media that would paint her or LexCorp in a bad light.
Pamela has an almost cult-like admiration for Lex and his company. If he were to vanish and people were to start making moves against the company I imagine Pamela would start to react with extreme prejudice. I could also see her developing a "if your not with me your against me mentality" with regards to people and she'd start using her pheromone powers a whole lot more.
It would be slightly better but speaking with a pronounced stutter isn't going to get Jinx to start thinking she's smart and would give Jinx ammunition to tease Cassandra.
You aren't wrong. She took over the company in the DCAU and ran it competently if not amazingly. The thing was she didn't have multiple highly unstable individuals in her company so it was significantly easier to run when not having to deal with literally any of the hero units you have. That's why I think it would break down because while Mercy has the business acumen and understanding to organize and make use of these individuals she lacks the charisma to get them to do what she wants and thus would have to waste lots of time and resources putting out fires.
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- Location
- alphen aan den rijn
@Simon_Jester hey simon would you mind spending some of your i don`t know how much xp reward on say that maybe?
haveing someone around the catch the ball if/when it falls would be nice
haveing someone around the catch the ball if/when it falls would be nice
- Location
- England
- Pronouns
- He/Him
@King crimson
Has Cassandra's Diplomacy raised from learning to speak at all or is it still at 1?
Also I went through the Cooperation scores and the person best suited to keeping people together is Roxanne!
Most of the people who wouldn't immediately bail like her, so while she would never end up in charge she'd probably be the kingmaker...
I'm not sure how I feel about that.
Has Cassandra's Diplomacy raised from learning to speak at all or is it still at 1?
Also I went through the Cooperation scores and the person best suited to keeping people together is Roxanne!
Most of the people who wouldn't immediately bail like her, so while she would never end up in charge she'd probably be the kingmaker...
I'm not sure how I feel about that.
King crimson
Confusion Will Be My Epitaph
- Location
- Los Angeles
It is still at one.
However learning actions that would raise her diplomacy have had a massive DC reduction and her trait is effectively neutralized.
well there is a word for that and it is Lexbot's. it worked for doom it can work for us
fictionfan
Please sir, may I have some Meows?
- Location
- Tempe, AZ
Looking at this trait and Lex's generally high cooperation score with his hero units. Is there any action that we really want to do a cosmic success on? It would be nice and might improve many of our hero unit co-op with each other.