Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)

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Adhoc vote count started by TheLastOne on May 23, 2017 at 4:55 AM, finished with 505 posts and 66 votes.

  • [X] Plan With All the Strength of a Raging Fire
    [X] Plan Double Break
    [X] Plan Housesitting Pretty
    [X] Resources used
    ---[X] Two Red Spirit Stones, Argent Accumulation pill, Qi Foundation Pill
    [X] Breakthrough Yellow
    [X] Breakthrough Yellow
    ---[X] If not Peak Red, cultivate spiritual
    [X] Cultivate on your own
    ---[X] Argent Soul
    [X] Plan all aboard the big team train, Yellow Ranger.
    [X] Cultivate on your own
    -[x] At the vent, if you encounter Huang Da try to agree to coexist and cultivate peacefully. if he refuses then just escape.
    -[x] 1x Spiritual
    -[X] 3x Argent Soul
    --[x] If through insane luck we manage to max AS with only 2 actions, then start yellow breakthrough
    [x] Plan Ambition
    [X] Buy the needed Argent Accumulation Pill
    [X] Plan This is not a harem plan
    [X] Breakthrough Silver
    -[X] If not Peak gold, cultivate physical
    [X] Breakthrough Silver
    -[X] Look into how Su Ling and Li Suyin are doing and cultivate at the vent
    --[X] Spiritual
    ---[X] Give your gifts to them, they deserve it
    --[X] If they could use them and refuse because they don't want a gift, offer to loan the stuff to them indefinitely.
    [X] Resources used
    --[X] Two Red Spirit Stones
    [X] Breakthrough to Yellow
    -[X]If not at Peak Red, Silver
    [X] Plan This is not a harem plan
    [X] Resources used
    --[X] Two Red Spirit Stones
    -[X] Look into how Su Ling and Li Suyin are doing and cultivate at the vent
    --[X] Give Su Ling the Lotus Root Pin and Li Suyin the Skirmisher's Anklets.
    --[X] Spiritual
    [X] Spend some time with Gu Xiulan try to work out what has her so bothered by Li Suyin
    -[X] Go House hunting with Bai Meizhen
    [X] Breakthrough to Yellow
    [X] Breakthrough to Yellow
    -[X]If not at Peak Red, Silver
    -[X]If not at Peak Gold Either, Train with Han Jian and his group for physical cultivation.
    [X] Two Red Stones.
    -[X] Look into how Su Ling and Li Suyin are doing and cultivate at the vent
    --[X] Give Su Ling the Lotus Root Pin and Li Suyin the Skirmisher's Anklets. They aren't gifts, they're just paying them for all the help they've given us - we wouldn't have claimed the arive pass without their support.
    --[X] Offer Su Ling the Qi Foundation pills in trade - she hunts beast cores for Li Suyin. For the next two weeks she can hunt them for us too.
    --[X] Spiritual
    -[X] Go House hunting with Bai Meizhen
    -[X] Talk to Han Jian see if he has any advice about the current 'political' situation
    -[X] Breakthrough to Yellow if at peak red, silver otherwise
    --[X] Finish Breakthrough if first roll succeeded. If we failed, spend some time with Gu Xiulan try to work out what has her so bothered by Li Suyin.
    -[X] Look into how Su Ling and Li Suyin are doing and cultivate at the vent
    -[X] Give Su Ling and Li Suyin their gifts.
    --[X] Spiritual
    -[X]If Gu Xiulan is willing to be nicer to them, and Li Suyin and Lu Sing agree, see about inviting Han Jian's group.
    [X] Spend some time with Gu Xiulan try to work out what has her so bothered by Li Suyin
    -[X] Explain your reasoning for inviting Li Siyun and Lu Sing's group to the training if need be, and try to find a middle ground for things to work out. Maybe a mercantile transaction if an alliance cannot work?
    [X]Qi Foundation Pill, Argent Accumulation Pill, 2 red spirit stones
    -[X] Go House hunting with Bai Meizhen
    ---[X] Talk about the politics of the last battle
    -[X] Look into how Su Ling and Li Suyin are doing and cultivate at the vent
    --[X] Spiritual
    ---[X] Give your gifts to them, they deserve it
    -[X] Look into how Su Ling and Li Suyin are doing and cultivate at the vent
    --[X] Spiritual
    --[X] Give Su Ling the Lotus Root Pin and Li Suyin the Skirmisher's Anklets.
    -[x] Warn them about their origin and to wear them discreetly to avoid trouble
 
Office internet! Finally!

Oh, all plans have Suyin + Su Ling social, nice. I wonder if that meant along with Meizhen...
I think it won't help us know who Ling Qi's enemies are? I mean, we knew Kang Zihao was almost certainly an enemy of Bai Meizhen, and the big unknown was Hong Lin... except we knew it was very likely some of the girls would attack us because of Huang Da, just not who.

And, well... when it comes down to it, "learning the techniques of Hong Lin" is strictly inferior to simply cultivating and training steadily.
Ah, I was more refuting @mrttao's argument about Ling Qi already knowing her enemies, but I also counter-argue myself that socializing about such would actually help her know the enemies... Probably narrow the field, but not exactly finger the suspects.
 
Ah, but at that point Ling Qi had already made faux pas of approaching and not been immediately repudiated, thus she gained the optics of a successful bootlicker. Besides, Sun Liling offered the insight after fake-punching Ling Qi, so she took it with lots of grain of salt...
We could tell that Bai is an outcast from just taking one look at her and the fact everyone seemed to both dislike and fear her.
we are not socially blind, we in fact are quite decent in social thanks to our life in the street.
We might've heard more about Huang Da's creepiness, albeit not about his actual stalkeriness, I suppose.
Hearing about his creepiness wouldn't have changed anything. there are a TON of creeps, having a list of them is irrelevant unless one of them creeps up on you. And we identified him as a creep the moment we met him. Our interaction with him would have been identical even with a warning
We might hear that Hong Lin is her fiancee... And considering the scene he made, might have realized that she'd come for Ling Qi, so we'd put some effort to learn her techniques.
Alright, we could have potentially known that... but that really wouldn't have changed anything. situational would have unfolded the same way. instead we found out he is her fiance when she attacked us (another thing we couldn't reliably expect from rumors)

Anyways, rumors told us that bai would backstab us, that su ling is a filthy primitive beastwoman that would bite us, that tigerboy is a worthless lazy layabout, that we are evil handmaiden of bai, that nerd waifu is worthless and shouldn't bother with her, that Da is an outstanding and noble man who keeps on getting seduced by sluts like Ling Qi...

I seriously doubt the value of rumors, and even if they are perfectly accurate they do not actually change anything. we should focus on cultivation unless someone picks a fight with us
 
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We could tell that Bai is an outcast from just taking one look at her and the fact everyone seemed to both dislike and fear her.
we are not socially blind, we in fact are quite decent in social thanks to our life in the street.

Hearing about his creepiness wouldn't have changed anything. there are a TON of creeps, having a list of them is irrelevant unless one of them creeps up on you. And we identified him as a creep the moment we met him. Our interaction with him would have been identical even with a warning

Alright, we could have potentially known that... but that really wouldn't have changed anything. situational would have unfolded the same way. instead we found out he is her fiance when she attacked us (another thing we couldn't reliably know from rumors)

Anyways, rumors told us that bai would backstab us, that su ling is a filthy primitive beastwoman that would bite us, that tigerboy is a worthless lazy layabout, that we are evil handmaiden of bai, that nerd waifu is worthless and shouldn't bother with her, that Du is an outstanding and noble man who keeps on getting seduced by sluts like Ling Qi...

I seriously doubt the value of rumors, and even if they are perfectly accurate they do not actually change anything. we should focus on cultivation unless someone picks a fight with us
I am torn between Hugs and Funny, because of that line about Tigerboy being lazy layabout.
 
So, apparently we get +5 to breakthrough rolls if we had a dangerous battle this week (like we just had).

so... that does raise the temptation of plan double breakthrough
The bonus thing was a joke in reference to Huang Da thanking us for his breakthrough, it's not a "there is such a bonus", it's a "wouldn't it be amusing that after plan raging fire winning we learn there was such a bonus".
 
So, apparently we get +5 to breakthrough rolls if we had a dangerous battle this week (like we just had).

so... that does raise the temptation of plan double breakthrough
Wait, really?

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The bonus thing was a joke in reference to Huang Da thanking us for his breakthrough, it's not a "there is such a bonus", it's a "wouldn't it be amusing that after plan raging fire winning we learn there was such a bonus".
Ah.
 
we are not socially blind, we in fact are quite decent in social thanks to our life in the street.
Uh. No? Our social was pretty crappy early on. Still is too at an amazingly low 1 dot. We've got better in some aspects but we're still pretty low. We've basically got as much social skill as we do politics skill which is also at 1 dot.
 
Uh. No? Our social was pretty crappy early on. Still is too at an amazingly low 1 dot. We've got better in some aspects but we're still pretty low. We've basically got as much social skill as we do politics skill which is also at 1 dot.
low my ass
Social
Presence: oo (1/15)
Manipulation: ooo (2/20)
Composure: ooo (2/20)
Streetwise: oo (2/9)

A politics roll would benefit from the base social stats like manipulation. so thats 4 dice, + auto successes from cultivation level. +reroll from argent soul

And determining that bai is being feared and hated would have been streetwise not politics.

incidentally, grinding more dots in it is less helpful than raising cultivation and increasing our auto successes in everything
 
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we already know
also, knowledge without power is useless

[X] Plan With All the Strength of a Raging Fire

Double breakthrough would be awesome (heck, I came up with the plan)... but with the limit of not repeating the same type of cultivation action twice per turn, and how far behind we are on AS. I am ultimately convinced to switch to it for the long term growth benefits.
.........No we don't, we know who one enemy is, there are still a whole load of people we don't know about and who may be plotting behind our backs, unless you're going to tell me you magically knew that Kang Zihao was the true mastermind all along and simply never told us, then no this shit is important.
She knew that Meizhen was a loner and outcast because of her strength and her clan though? She also realised Huang Da was an enemy, and was wary of Kang Zihao.
No she didn't, she thought that he was a creep not a freaky stalker who would ambush her in the wilderness and try to get her to betray her friends.
I think it won't help us know who Ling Qi's enemies are? I mean, we knew Kang Zihao was almost certainly an enemy of Bai Meizhen, and the big unknown was Hong Lin... except we knew it was very likely some of the girls would attack us because of Huang Da, just not who.

And, well... when it comes down to it, "learning the techniques of Hong Lin" is strictly inferior to simply cultivating and training steadily.
Batman with prep time > stupid Punchy Mcpunchface who doesn't bother learning about his opponents and how to beat them.

Alright, we could have potentially known that... but that really wouldn't have changed anything. situational would have unfolded the same way. instead we found out he is her fiance when she attacked us (another thing we couldn't reliably expect from rumors)

Anyways, rumors told us that bai would backstab us, that su ling is a filthy primitive beastwoman that would bite us, that tigerboy is a worthless lazy layabout, that we are evil handmaiden of bai, that nerd waifu is worthless and shouldn't bother with her, that Da is an outstanding and noble man who keeps on getting seduced by sluts like Ling Qi...

I seriously doubt the value of rumors, and even if they are perfectly accurate they do not actually change anything. we should focus on cultivation unless someone picks a fight with us
If you want to stay ignorant be my guest, I'd rather make an effort to be informed about things instead of being blindsided. Yeah the rumors might be wrong or exaggerated but amazingly we can actually choose to verify them instead of just taking them at face value.
 
low my ass




A politics roll would benefit from the base social stats like manipulation. so thats 4 dice, + auto successes from cultivation level. +reroll from argent soul

And determining that bai is being feared and hated would have been streetwise not politics.

incidentally, grinding more dots in it is less helpful than raising cultivation and increasing our auto successes in everything
Except this isn't the street? How would that apply? These are nobles with whom being on the street should have little interaction except 'Avoid'. Still seems low to me...social dice seem even more critical than combat dice as theres only one check. Combat can happen multiple times and can have comebacks. Everything else we have like double the number of dice. So yeah I think we're low on the social side. Last few checks for social I found only had 4 dice as you said. We usually barely pass them or have to reroll. Much too close for my comfort.

Finally, in regards to cultivation level. Your cultivation acts as a modifier for all relevant actions, providing a free success on any relevant role for each stage of your cultivation.
No idea where you'd think Cultivation applies to social but I don't think it's relevant.
 
.........No we don't, we know who one enemy is, there are still a whole load of people we don't know about and who may be plotting behind our backs, unless you're going to tell me you magically knew that Kang Zihao was the true mastermind all along and simply never told us, then no this shit is important.
1. They are not our "enemies" unless they are actually willing to act against us.
2. We already met the serious players. some scrub low level cowards are irrelevant.
3. Rumors are not going to give us a list (both for meta and IC reasons)
4. Even if we had a list, it would be worthless. Our actions would be the same, train and socialize unless someone starts shit.
Batman with prep time > stupid Punchy Mcpunchface who doesn't bother learning about his opponents and how to beat them.
Batman would get his shit rekt by anyone with actual power. The only reason he doesn't is plot armor.
Also, I would like to hear what kind of "prep" you have in mind compared to training and leveling up
 
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Except this isn't the street? How would that apply?
... seriously?
Definition of STREETWISE
possessing the skills and attitudes necessary to survive in a difficult or dangerous situation or environment
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/street-smarts?s=t
shrewd awareness of how to survive or succeed in any situation,especially as a result of living or working in a difficult environment, as acity ghetto neighborhood.
both dictionarys agree that streetwise and streetsmarts are synonyms.
I hope this lesson in english has been enlightening to you

The fact we are currently inside a "sect" instead of inside a "street" is irrelevant to the definition of the word streetsmarts
 
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We'd take the same actions anyways. Our progression route would be the same. Plus Batman has tons of resources at his disposable. Not so much for us. We'll do some recon that's almost a given but I don't think we'll have to fight them for a while.

I know what it meant I was asking how it'd practically help us with applicable knowledge or situations we might have encountered to apply our experience to this type of situation. No need to be condescending. Different environments have different dangers previous knowledge of a different environment can only get you so far. If we're dealing with nobles understanding the politics that are being used are key.
 
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