Forge of Destiny(Xianxia Quest)
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Liking this one the most at the moment:
[x] I follow your daughter because through action and reputation, she has proven herself deserving of respect. Moreover, I see Lady Cai's path as the best for my personal growth, both as a cultivator and as a person. Though I still question the feasibility of your daughter's vision a better world, it is a worthy goal.
[x] I follow your daughter because through action and reputation, she has proven herself deserving of respect. Moreover, I see Lady Cai's path as the best for my personal growth, both as a cultivator and as a person. Though I still question the feasibility of your daughter's vision a better world, it is a worthy goal.
Arkeus
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That's not what I said.
I said that Ling Qi has purposefully chosen in the last few updates to not be loyal to CRX and engage in acts that are disloyal. She might chose to be loyal in the future, but she can't say she is loyal as long as she is being disloyal. You don't get to say "I am loyal now" when you were disloyal ten minutes ago. You first need to prove said loyalty to both ourselves and others.
Shenhua is a person known to always know the truth and the details of what people are thinking, so we shouldn't pretend to do a 180° right this second.
My issue with this vote is that a major (maybe THE major) reason Ling Qi has internalised about why she chose to go to CRX is about building a place that is hers and hers alone. Not only is it part of the main reason Yrsillar gave us, but it's the one we gave to Zeqing about our choice.
Glossing about that key part bothers me.
DeAnno
Sometimes words have two meanings
I will jump on this bandwagon, it seems to lack any serious issues and 3 votes is a lot at this point.
[x] I follow your daughter because through action and reputation, she has proven herself deserving of respect. Moreover, I see Lady Cai's path as the best for my personal growth, both as a cultivator and as a person. Though I still question the feasibility of your daughter's vision a better world, it is a worthy goal.
[x] I follow your daughter because through action and reputation, she has proven herself deserving of respect. Moreover, I see Lady Cai's path as the best for my personal growth, both as a cultivator and as a person. Though I still question the feasibility of your daughter's vision a better world, it is a worthy goal.
Oh yeah CRX is going to die. Cai mom waited 200 years to have her first child. If she get a second one it's because the first failed and she need to remplace her.
That's why we should vote for something that tell her we will be loyal after the death of CRX, please don't murder us too.
It took her 200 years before having a child because it took her that long to get to the child-making part of her ineffable plan.
Putting all her eggs in one basket would be ridiculously foolish. And considering how long it can take to tell if one isn't going to work out, getting started on another is fairly sensible. Plus no matter how good Renxiang is, there's always the risk of accidents. That's why you have spares.
Is this going to apply more pressure on Renxiang? Sure. But there is really no need to be panicking in this way.
If it was the case, she would have had another child already. It has been 14 years since the birth of CRX. If she wanted to have multiple children to have spare, she would have had one way before.
Everything point toward CRX getting remplaced. Let's just hope we won't get discarded with her.
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I consider those unnecessary details though. Like, a major reason for considering CRX at all was Meizhen's recommendation but I don't think it's something that we ought to mention outside of "reputation". Personal growth I see as her finding a goal and independence etc, I don't think Shenhua cares all too much for specifics. If I were to specify though, "home" feels too gamey as the focus of our domain and ooc knowledge feels more like subconscious thoughts than something we'd vocalise at the questioning of the Duchess.
Can't actually tell if you're serious, we know cultivators tend to have much larger gaps than 14 years between children...
There is another factor to it other that just making a baby though.
Shenhua also has to create a Dress Spirit for them, and we do not know what goes int that.
And I am sure Cai mom, known for not following the tradition will totally follow the traditions here for no reason whatsoever.
Well, we know that making a talisman is a matter of months. Maybe it's significantly different for to make object spirits, but I find it unlikely.
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She's powerful enough to not let tradition dictate her actions, that isn't the same as rebelling against the norm whenever and however she can. Large gaps between children just makes sense when you measure your lifetime in centuries and have other things, like running a province, to do. It's a trend more relevant to Shenhua than most. I'd also expect someone so interested in order to appreciate the value of not putting all your eggs in one basket and creating a firm foundation for a clan.
I missed the moratorium line and I had posted right before I crashed.
Many of the arguments and points I see, in the end, still boil down to my initial vote, so I will repeat it.
[x] "It seemed like the most interesting option available."
Many of the arguments and points I see, in the end, still boil down to my initial vote, so I will repeat it.
[x] "It seemed like the most interesting option available."
Kai Merah
Hound Hearted Hedonist
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I get the feeling that the reason Shenhua is preparing Child 2 now, is because Child 1 needed to be carefully moulded and sculpted for optimal results, but Child 1 is pretty much done now and capable of functioning autonomously, so it's about time to put Child 2 into development.
Like how baby animals need to be fed every hour or two, but can be left alone for longer once they're older. Child 1's foundations are firmly set now, and she needs to go through some tempering without direct oversight, so might as well start on Child 2 as backup/added support. As a bonus, Child 2's mere existence will be sufficient to give Child 1 extra motivation to try harder. Very efficient resource allocation.
Like how baby animals need to be fed every hour or two, but can be left alone for longer once they're older. Child 1's foundations are firmly set now, and she needs to go through some tempering without direct oversight, so might as well start on Child 2 as backup/added support. As a bonus, Child 2's mere existence will be sufficient to give Child 1 extra motivation to try harder. Very efficient resource allocation.
You know, I wouldn't read anything broader into Shenhua's 'joke'. Anyone who accompanied her as a personal assistant would be something like a Minister, and we have no idea of their relation. Yes, even with the ooc info we have.
First, she's definitely highly competent to be a Duchess's right hand woman in basically any circumstance. Shenhua could also have purposefully chosen a darker skinned cultivator to accompany her in order to combat those biases of Imperial culture. But sure, it could be the lesbian thing too. Or a mix of the three.
First, she's definitely highly competent to be a Duchess's right hand woman in basically any circumstance. Shenhua could also have purposefully chosen a darker skinned cultivator to accompany her in order to combat those biases of Imperial culture. But sure, it could be the lesbian thing too. Or a mix of the three.
Really, guys? You aren't even bothering with an actual response, and are just voting for a list of reasons instead?
I'm honestly disappointed in the thread.
I'm honestly disappointed in the thread.
Man, Shenhua is such a hilarious asshole.
Like, not just her dialogue, but even just the whole pregnancy thing on its own.
Obviously, the implication in any normal family of having another kid 14 years after the last one would be a pretty blatant "yeah, the last one is just massively deficient in some way and I need a replacement" with the implicit admission of failure being why it's normally such a big repudiation of the last kid, but I don't actually see CRX on the scrap heap yet at all.
Hell, I don't even think Shenhua is disatisfied with her performance in the slightest.
I think it's just Shenhua giving zero fucks, wanting the spare ready immediately in case she does need to scrap CRX in the future and wanting to scare the everloving shit out of CRX.
It's basically just a massive asshole move and it's hilarious.
Even if I'm right *and* everyone else actually acknowledges that CRX is not in fact completely out of the running for heir, this still creates a competitor for the position whom CRX has pretty much no meaningful amount of seniority over and undercuts the political weight CRX can throw around massively by doing so.
Which is most likely one of the bigger reasons for why Shenhua is doing this (gotta ramp up the difficulty if you actually want to test and train her, after all), but making the announcement at CRX's first big public showing and not even telling CRX beforehand is just the most beautiful of dick moves.
Like, not just her dialogue, but even just the whole pregnancy thing on its own.
Obviously, the implication in any normal family of having another kid 14 years after the last one would be a pretty blatant "yeah, the last one is just massively deficient in some way and I need a replacement" with the implicit admission of failure being why it's normally such a big repudiation of the last kid, but I don't actually see CRX on the scrap heap yet at all.
Hell, I don't even think Shenhua is disatisfied with her performance in the slightest.
I think it's just Shenhua giving zero fucks, wanting the spare ready immediately in case she does need to scrap CRX in the future and wanting to scare the everloving shit out of CRX.
It's basically just a massive asshole move and it's hilarious.
Even if I'm right *and* everyone else actually acknowledges that CRX is not in fact completely out of the running for heir, this still creates a competitor for the position whom CRX has pretty much no meaningful amount of seniority over and undercuts the political weight CRX can throw around massively by doing so.
Which is most likely one of the bigger reasons for why Shenhua is doing this (gotta ramp up the difficulty if you actually want to test and train her, after all), but making the announcement at CRX's first big public showing and not even telling CRX beforehand is just the most beautiful of dick moves.
