A fair point, in our actual military service AE would be one point of qi per round as a passive. We should remember that just because a technique isn't optimal in certain circumstances doesn't mean it's useless, techniques are naturally more useful when used as intended.
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To turn to a more pleasant evergreen topic: how do we stack up to the top tier contenders these days?
I think we can actually match Ji Rong stride for stride on pure cultivation. Assuming he is talent 7, we need to roll 6 dice to keep up with every 5 that he rolls. However, the pill furnace gives us a free major action's worth of income every week. Either he's matching that by taking an extra mission every week (giving us five actions to his 4) or he's getting by without using as much cash to pump up his dice rolls. That means that a cultivation race between us will come down to Zeqing + tutors + CRX resources + moon missions against Sun resources + his fortuitous encounters + whatever he spends sect points on. Most likely he's had to spend sect points on arts that we've spent on tutors. He probably breezed through or will breeze through breakthroughs, but we did all right on that front as well.
On the flip side, the domain rules, while cool, probably put the last nail in the coffin of our effort to close the gap with the top three. This is an area where multi-generational min-maxing outshines our fortuitous encounter method of building an art suite. Sun/Bai/Cai all but certainly have a bunch of synergistic arts that cap out around Green 1 and Green 2. While we can minimize the cultivation gap and the art gap, fighting a Sun Liling with five complementary domain bonuses will be rough.
Against everybody else I like our chances. You never know what kind of crazy second year is going to crawl out of the woodwork, but even so Ling Qi is a high talent cultivator whose spending probably exceeds most of the noble kids' and who will have been Green/Bronze for two plus months of furious cultivation by the time the tournament rolls around. A far cry from the early days when we were hoping to scrape by at late yellow/silver by tournament time.
I think we can actually match Ji Rong stride for stride on pure cultivation. Assuming he is talent 7, we need to roll 6 dice to keep up with every 5 that he rolls. However, the pill furnace gives us a free major action's worth of income every week. Either he's matching that by taking an extra mission every week (giving us five actions to his 4) or he's getting by without using as much cash to pump up his dice rolls. That means that a cultivation race between us will come down to Zeqing + tutors + CRX resources + moon missions against Sun resources + his fortuitous encounters + whatever he spends sect points on. Most likely he's had to spend sect points on arts that we've spent on tutors. He probably breezed through or will breeze through breakthroughs, but we did all right on that front as well.
On the flip side, the domain rules, while cool, probably put the last nail in the coffin of our effort to close the gap with the top three. This is an area where multi-generational min-maxing outshines our fortuitous encounter method of building an art suite. Sun/Bai/Cai all but certainly have a bunch of synergistic arts that cap out around Green 1 and Green 2. While we can minimize the cultivation gap and the art gap, fighting a Sun Liling with five complementary domain bonuses will be rough.
Against everybody else I like our chances. You never know what kind of crazy second year is going to crawl out of the woodwork, but even so Ling Qi is a high talent cultivator whose spending probably exceeds most of the noble kids' and who will have been Green/Bronze for two plus months of furious cultivation by the time the tournament rolls around. A far cry from the early days when we were hoping to scrape by at late yellow/silver by tournament time.
I would put Ling Qi into the "little monsters" tier, alongside Chu Song, Gan Guangli, Ji Rong, Shen Hu and Kang Zihao.
Though, I am of the "unorthodox" opinion that Kang Zihao may very well be the strongest of the little monsters, and I would like to avoid him in the preliminaries.
Of all the others, I rate Ling Qi as stronger by the time of the tournament.
Though, I am of the "unorthodox" opinion that Kang Zihao may very well be the strongest of the little monsters, and I would like to avoid him in the preliminaries.
Of all the others, I rate Ling Qi as stronger by the time of the tournament.
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Mastering 3 is enough to derive the 4th or something. Memory fuzzy.
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Yep mastering the other three reveals the fourth.
They can't be mastered short of green, so it was impossible to get the fourth art before breakthrough, so no bonuses for mastering them could exist.
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Hmm I don't recall this? I believe y'all, but does anyone know where it was said.
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Yrsillar WoG I believe you can search it. It was only shortly post Green breakthrough I think.
Ah, mastering was used before to refer to getting an art as high as cultivation allow so didn't think it meant completing it.
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Mastering has always been finishing the Art. What you're thinking about is (soft) capping the Art.
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Kang appears to be built as a control defender, which means either he is built badly to deal with Ling Qi, or he is built well, depending on if his control abilities don't only lock her down physically as he attempted to do to Meizhen in Thunderdome II, but in such a way that her buffs can't target others and/or that her debuffs can target only him (something like a Defender version of Elegy, maybe.) This could make Kang hugely threatening in the prelims.
In the round of 16, I think it's more likely Ji Rong is the more dangerous build, if only because he doesn't have resources dedicated to lockdown abilities that aren't that useful in a 1v1, unlike Kang. However, Kang might have really high spiritual defense due to his more fleshed out defensive role, so even then it's not clear which is the greater threat. (It's notable that Kang's predesigned Art Suite means he is much less likely to ignore Spiritual Defense just because Spiritual Offense is locally uncommon in this class.)
I think Chu Song is just the quest's next generation of Huang Da, someone who was relevant in the first encounter and afterwards is doomed to lose ground quickly. She just doesn't impress me and I think she's the weakest of this bracket of six (including Ling Qi). Gan is a very physical fighter so I would expect his spiritual defense to be low, but then again his training session recently suggests that may not be the case anymore. I think the mechanics of the prelims means he can't be a threat there though, since unless Cai is also in the same prelim (which would only be the work of some sadistic elder) Gan will be our most solid ally in any prelim. Shen Hu is a wildcard, could end up doing anything.
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I wish I could both like this and funny this.
O Mighty Xon, please make it so!
Jokes aside, theoretically that works out well for us. The advantage elegy has is that it only has to win the clash once, and then we start winning the qi efficiency game. If the opponent has heavily specced into defense, then they're likely to have lower offensive dice, and thus we can stall them out well.
That being said, from the other side of things tanks are better able to just straight up ignore Zhengui and our minions.
Clearly everyone involved in the fight is going to be so good at defensive tech that noone can hurt eachother. Eventually we will pile up 20 worms off qi regen and they will carry the day.
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Hm. A question just occurred to me, though I think we might have at least briefly discussed it before:
How viable would AOE Qi Drain active techniques which feed the user be when compared to Qi Recovery passives like AE provides? This question is in the context of war time battle fields. Go wild, I'm curious what folks can come up with.
The main point of this question is that Qi Drain techniques have not been mentioned as of yet, by anyone, as something used in battalion level combat and the only other example we have is a single Technique which doesn't feed us yet and is distinctly limited to squad level combat. Qi Concentration techniques which feed Qi along a chain of command have been displayed, see Ogodei ZZZzzzaaapping that city in Jiao's trial.
How viable would AOE Qi Drain active techniques which feed the user be when compared to Qi Recovery passives like AE provides? This question is in the context of war time battle fields. Go wild, I'm curious what folks can come up with.
The main point of this question is that Qi Drain techniques have not been mentioned as of yet, by anyone, as something used in battalion level combat and the only other example we have is a single Technique which doesn't feed us yet and is distinctly limited to squad level combat. Qi Concentration techniques which feed Qi along a chain of command have been displayed, see Ogodei ZZZzzzaaapping that city in Jiao's trial.
Don't forget Kang's spirit beast should be stronger than Zhengui, and it's equipped, and he likely has a 3rd realm wolf as well. Personally I'm hoping Best Snek secretly also used a subtle toxin with lingering compounding detrimental effects.
I wonder if we could convince, entice, or bribe the dragon to bond with us for the tournament. He might even like us enough to stick around, but maybe the challenge could appeal to his pride? I bet we could swing it by his mother well enough, encouragement to excel, win or lose.
I wonder if we could convince, entice, or bribe the dragon to bond with us for the tournament. He might even like us enough to stick around, but maybe the challenge could appeal to his pride? I bet we could swing it by his mother well enough, encouragement to excel, win or lose.
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His spirit beast is a wolf already as shown in one of the Thunderdomes? Are you talking about him getting another one from the pack of Rimefur wolves so that he can have two to romp with?
I would not take this as a given. Not all spirit beasts are created equal or grow as quickly as one that caps out as highly as a turtle snake. I would not be surprised in the least if his dog was still late yellow/silver and not up to the task of getting through Zhengui's armor.
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Kang's doggo being stronger than Zhengui is possible if it gets to 3rd realm but Zhengui doesn't, but I wouldn't count on it. Zhengui is actually pretty damn good for his cultivation level, spirit beast wise, even though it will take a while for him to get really used to his abilities.
The danger is more, as you point out, on Kang having new spirit beasts.
Honestly, I think people under-estimate Chu way too much. If anyone beside Ji Rong and Shen Hu have a chance to touch Monster-level, it's Chu Song, not Kang Zihao. Being fully green for almost year is not a joke, and both Shen Hu and Chu Song have a non-zero chance to be at appraisal/appraisal with appraisal arts and domain oo.
Yeah, he was hanging around them and it seems to fit. I thought his first was a hound of some sort, but the difference is academic. I expect he'll have two third realm doggies to six on us and Zhengui, though he could have stalled hard, I don't want to count on it.
He was trying to break through, can't remember if he actually did yet, and so far every bound spirit seems to approximately keep pace with their pet human, at least. I don't expect any to fall behind, at least not at Green. Add to that the fact that he's from a non-minor noble family, I expect his spirit beast to have decent potential for a while yet.
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We are talking about his spirit beast and whether it's 3rd realm by the tournament. For reference, it was mid yellow by week 19.
Also, he was only bronze then, not green. Cultivation wise Kang Zihao seems to be roughly on the same level as we are (maybe he even got to green later than we got to Bronze), but art/meridian wise, as well as skill wise, he might be behind.
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Though the question then is, has he reached Green yet? I can't recall that being mentioned.