TBF the original price for the second silverblood pill was just a lesson in AC. Su Ling was the one that increased it later.
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That is the only quote pertaining to this matter I can recall, and the Sect being the route for more personal power would be in line with the statement by Jian that obligations born from duty interfere with personal cultivation time.
Well to be fair both routes have duties they simply offset those with different methods either teachers in the Sect route, and spirits to use means of acquiring arts that differ from the cultivator norm, or sufficient resources to grind arts directly, and cultivate without teachers in the CRX route.
You could vote for open door, and actually give Su Ling something back. White room pays back some of that.
Because she realised how valuable what she had actually was. She gave the first one away for free (not quite realising how good it was) and offered us the second one. Then she actually learned what she had and realised she'd offered us something highly valuable for basically nothing and came back wanting something approaching fair value. Which we cut off by (perhaps unintentionally) guilting her with her previous promise and the fact she feels she 'owes' us.
Like imagine that back when we first got a sable light pill we'd given Meizhen one and offered to sell her the other for 50 stones (an unimaginable sum back then) then found out they're actually worth 20 times that. That's what we did.
Does not really work because without Ling Qi the pill would never have been made. Had Meizhen given us a lot of regs to try out and we would have been able to make a slp out of it, I am pretty sure the thread would have handed the first one of and given Meizhen a discount on the other one.
It was a bit more than a discount.
EDIT: By which I meant it's a big discount.
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It may be a little cheap. However Su Ling did agree and there was no vote for it. It was not in our control. Therefore Ling Qi believed the deal was fair enough and Yrs did as well. It seems a little bitter to argue about actions that we could not control.
Yeah Su Ling got AC cheap. Usually even a first floor art is a green stone or more.
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There's also the option that Su Ling does value the AC lesson at roughly 100 stones, making it an acceptable substitution, rather than guilting her into a discount. AC is a good quality art, and Ling Qi could be considered equivalent to a tutor for it.
She's still getting 100 stones in cash for it, and the rest is roughly the same value in sect points for the same if she'd gone that route instead.
She's still getting 100 stones in cash for it, and the rest is roughly the same value in sect points for the same if she'd gone that route instead.
I kinda presumed that the extra lesson for AC at a minimum offset the 100 stones in part due to the fact that Su Ling was stuck on AC, but also the fact that Ling Qi being a cultivation machine who constantly trains with a wide variety of individuals has become a decent tutor.
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I took that passage a little differently I guess. I thought that Su Ling initially highballed her offer, as most people do when they're haggling. She makes sure to play up its quality and that it had The 'apologetic' line actually makes me think she feels guilty for haggling at all, and not just making her first offer at a better deal; especially given Ling Qi is the reason she can make them in the first place. I don't think she expected to get 200 RSS for one of the pills and thinks that our 100 + art tutoring is a generous deal as is.
I think the thing that pisses me off most about the apprentice route is that we know almost nothing about it.
We're going to burn down all of our other options for a shining dreams that, in reality, is probably not what we think it is.
Also, The arguments for "freedom" are out of date. Go back and read the breakthrough again. Turns out, trading your family for destitution and absolute freedom is not a good trade, and leaves marks.
Finally, the value being placed on the library is seriously overblown. we almost never use it. What use is a resource that we don't use?.
We're going to burn down all of our other options for a shining dreams that, in reality, is probably not what we think it is.
Also, The arguments for "freedom" are out of date. Go back and read the breakthrough again. Turns out, trading your family for destitution and absolute freedom is not a good trade, and leaves marks.
Finally, the value being placed on the library is seriously overblown. we almost never use it. What use is a resource that we don't use?.
Officers still say "Yes Sir." Green brass doesn't call the shots, set strategy or decide their own deployment.
When I said we own the army, I meant that literally. As a noble, one of the things we use our tax revenue for is to raise, train and deploy troops as we see fit. If we want to go on a mission, we send troops on that mission on our own authority.
Bai Meizhen, actually.
We will be her strongest follower after all. Being fourth in line for the whole province or whatever was never a goal, we'll have more than enough wealth/power just working for CRX herself.
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I hate to say it, but we don't know much about any route.
Doubtful. We borrow Renxiang's authority, because she's the one who will be running whatever border area Caimom sends her. That we might have a sub-area under her doesn't mean we are the sole military authority. We hardly will have more authority than we would under the sect, since you can't exactly put people at similar cultivation under us no matter where we are. And the defense of the border is a collective effort, not one that should be shouldered by a squad of yellows and reds alone.
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I don't think that anyone is arguing that the sect offers more freedom. Each option has there own chains. What I think that the sect options offers is more time to cultivate. Also about the library. We have used the library extensively. We used the formation primers to open up the sun moon and star tokens. We used the library to help us raise Zhengui. We used the library to research different tactics and battle flows during our arts debate. We used the library just recently to learn about river dragons. There are probably other times that we used the library that I can't remember. Saying that we almost never use it is wrong.
Yes.
Roughly- apprentice route is probably going to allow better personal growth, while CRX route would offer more political power with still very significant personal growth.
Character wise - CRX route should allow us more interaction with Bai, while apprentice route would allow us more interactions with Xin and Zeqing.
All in all a difficult choice.
Yes. It's Xianxia. Of course it isn't fair.
And of course, apprentice route means signing up with a guy with a proven track record of throwing us into the deep end ass first with little to no warning, then explicitly leaving us to deal with any consequences on our own.
And his wife, who does the same damn thing, but also enjoys fucking with people for the lulz.
And his wife, who does the same damn thing, but also enjoys fucking with people for the lulz.
To be fair, we did profit a lot from both, and throwing people in a lake to learn to swim is a staple in Xianxia.
We would be receiving a fief for the creation of a new noble house. Yes we are under Cai, but to say that troops we raise there are actually hers rather than ours is a bit of a ridiculous statement. We aren't being given her soldiers to do our job, they are our soldiers being used to do whatever we need done with them, which includes the jobs she would set for us.
This assume that she would give us free arts when her offer was never about that.
On cultivation, a white room is just as much dice as training by an elder. Which we would get if we were to be apprentice.
So yes, the sect route is better for cultivation. We will have access to high quality art, pill maker and tutors.
The cost of this would be less political power.
It depend on wether you like politics or cultivating more afterward.
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How would you plan on leveraging that extra political power that the cai route would give us? I for one don't see Ling Qi being a great politician or even knowing how to leverage that power.
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