Arkeus
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Spine arts are the self-buff ones, not the arms art. In that sense a Arms art wouldn't be necessarily better than another Heart Art, even just for the passive for that fight (say, Crimson Flow Art could have helped us against the poison possibly, and the passive dices would have helped everyone).Yes it would have. Passives generally give bonuses of 1-2. A dedicated damage art would have given us 1-2 dice, at no extra cost. Therefore it would have been better to have an additional Arm technique than to not have an additional arm technique.
The reason we won was due to having a decent team and being able to help them. Us being stronger, and them being stronger, would have helped, of course, but 'stronger' includes "being a better buffer".I have to agree that we won't be able to rely on pure buffs/debuffs forever. Sometimes, we need to be able to fight by ourselves and this last encounter proved that. The only reason we won was due to a few lucky rolls on our part. Any person with a brain will be gunning for us first(because we're the buffer) and if they slip past we need to be able to put up at least a decent fight. So I'm all for picking arm and defense arts.
Sorry, I meant reaching Yellow before AS4.I don't understand where you're getting the idead that getting AS4 when we have is unimpressive and that not getting it would have us thrown out of the class?
EDIT: Also, I was exxagerating by 'throw out', though it would definitely mean we won't have any chances to impress her anymore for a good long while.
I guess I wasn't clear. I don't think we should get AS5 before Yellow, I think she wants us to work toward it so that it will be faster to get it later on. We are getting a lot of free dices toward AS currently, but AS is actually kind of hard to train without them. Our basic dices for it is just Talent + Spirit Stone. While currently we have +5 from Elder Su and +9 from Qi Foundation pill, both of those will disappear.As to why I think Elder Su doesn't necessarily want us working toward AS 5 before Yellow soul I again point you to week 8
You are wrong about the earlier part. It just means we won't lose anything by not getting AS5 before Red Soul. We will definiely get AS5's own bonus working in red soul, it just isn't necessary at all to do it before Yellow, while not doing AS4 before Yellow is deciding we want to be a grunt and stop being a cultivator.Elder Su specifically told us that getting AS 4 would benefit us as long as we got it before going yellow soul, but she also said that going beyond the fourth layer of AS would not provide any more benifits at the red soul stage (Yrsillar's later clarification also bore this out). I.e. that getting AS 5 won't provide us any benifit during the red soul stage, nor will we lose out on any permenant bonuses by not gaining AS5 at the Red stage. She reminded us that practical applications of our cultivation and our situation shouldn't be forgotten.
Back then she encouraged us to be ambitious, but also to weigh the practical benifits of our choices as well.
I've found a bit of further evidence about Elder Su's personality I'd like to highlight. A few things from week 9:
She values hard work and self motivation, but I'm really interested in her use of the words "meandering along you path". To me that reinforces the idea the Elder Su values targeted, thoughtful and specific ambition within cultivators. Not just reaching high but having a firm plan of how to get there.
We basically agree there, I just ... think I read the opposite of what you mean by 'Balanced'? By Balanced and with targeted goals, I think she wants us to advance a bit of everything and not forget to live our life, either. Doing only AS, or only spiritual, or only Arts, or only Qi, or only Meridian is clearly not what she wants, but, above all, she thinks all of it is important. None should be left by the wayside.
Sure, it's important not to behind the rest of the pack, but we aren't doing that either. We are targetting the optimal use of our resources and actions to get spiritual, argent soul, qi, meridian and arts to the highest point before the end of the Truce. Now, I would prefer a plan that has both AS and Spiritual, like mine, but a plan that has AS and Qi, and will get Qi and Meridian and Arts and Spiritual next week, is more balanced and has better goals and focus that one who dismisses part of our growth.
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