People can't just 2nd trigger whenever a 2nd trigger basically occurs when a shard has gathered enough data to bud but then instead chooses to reinvest the bud's resources into the cape before sending it off. Note that his canon one only occurred during the nine after he'd gone through quite a few big cape fights and the levi one too. Additionally, Bakuda's thing was probably too far from his trigger due to lacking the key part of someone very important to him being hurt and helpless right in front of his eyes.
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Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)
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People can't just 2nd trigger whenever a 2nd trigger basically occurs when a shard has gathered enough data to bud but then instead chooses to reinvest the bud's resources into the cape before sending it off. Note that his canon one only occurred during the nine after he'd gone through quite a few big cape fights and the levi one too. Additionally, Bakuda's thing was probably too far from his trigger due to lacking the key part of someone very important to him being hurt and helpless right in front of his eyes.
A small part of Panacea's pay problem is in the Youth Guards job description. Namely, the PRT is demanding work from a non-Wards minor parahuman and paying her less than the legal minimum i.e. nothing. But their investigation goes beyond that to look at "promotional and charity" healing in general.
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Brian in canon: Knew Tay for 2 months.
Brian here: Knows Tay for 2 weeks.
Coincidence?
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Why use a Call Bead when you literally could call him though?
I mean, there's also the difference where Taylor was comparatively unharmed compared to everyone else while Lisa was freshly healed when they came across Brian. His canon second Trigger was him being completely helpless while Bonesaw was actively threatening Aisha and experimenting on Taylor before his very eyes. There's a very big difference on perceived threats towards his charges there.
Presentation?
I mean: calling the Enigmatic Artificer through a magical portal From Hell (©Regent) is much more spectacular than messaging him through a common burner phone.
(It will definitively not help with the religious allegations... and probably with Vista that will probably claim she was right since the start and that Mammon was definitively the Devil!)
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A portal to hell is so passe though. In comparison, opening a portal to a fantasy world that is the Workshop - which also, remember, qualifies as an afterlife and thus a version of heaven - would be so much better. If Joe can make overly decorated doors appear anywhere, I'm sure that he can manage an entrance far more spectacular than just what a crack into shardspace could manage.
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No no, I mean that it's Taylor's fault Brian sufferes enough to have a second trigger, just that he hasn't known her long enough for him to suffer through one
Hell adjacent, who knows how many *shiver* social events Joe would have to attend if he went to actual hell!
Vista adding a new red string to her corkboard to tie [Mammon] to [Actually Satan????].
No no, I mean that it's Taylor's fault Brian sufferes enough to have a second trigger, just that he hasn't known her long enough for him to suffer through one
Well yes I thought my earlier implication was clear that in canon Taylor dragged them into enough big cape fights his shard gained enough combat data to bud so he could second trigger but that wasn't the case at the point of the storage yard.
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I think the joke was that Taylor's luck is so bad that it was inevitable that someone around her would Second Trigger.
But more seriously, in the storage yard the circumstances just didn't align well enough with Brian's original Trigger that he got close enough to actually Second Trigger. Remember, the most important factor in one isn't the suffering involved but rather the fact that the situation mirrors the original conditions wherein the passenger made its first connection. Brian suffered a lot when he got warped by Bakuda's bomb, yes, but without Aisha there (or someone close enough to him for it to matter) under mortal peril before his very eyes, he just did not get into the same headspace as his original Trigger.
Now that bit I outright stated before.
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That's different from the combat data you mentioned though? It's true that shards do need time for a Second Trigger, but the circumstances that lead to it is a separate ballgame. It doesn't matter how many fights cape get into if they don't get into a situation like their original Trigger, that was my point. If it was only conflict that was necessary, the Second Triggers would've been far more common. Remember, capes can go through a lot, and Bonesaw literally had to manipulate things to actually be able to witness Second Triggers herself and record the data of the process. Brian's canonical Second Trigger was literally her doing her best to artificially replicate the circumstances of his Trigger, it's just that specific.
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The anti-Simurgh effect that is now with Brian's phone. What exactly does it do?
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IIRC, any attempt to precog members of the CF will give the general answer of "They'll react to what others do, but aren't planning to take direct action on their own"
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More specifically, first it blocks any precog, then in the item it emulates a version of you that is passive and only reacts when provoked. Then, it uses that emulation to trick any precog into thinking that the emulation is you. Even if they manage to get past that emulation trickery, they still wouldn't be able to use any indirect means of precog to emulate your actions similar to how Fortuna uses models to get past some of her restrictions. It is quite simply, complete information denial and manipulation all in one.
Thanks for the chapter!
And when it is discovered, every single precog will be screaming "TOO OP!! NERF NOW DAMNIT!!!" as they start to go insane due to how everything is now starting to slowly connect to the CF.
Gah! I'm caught up!
Really looking forward to Joe delivering the nanites to Lady Khepri and how she figures out how to weaponize them.
Really looking forward to Joe delivering the nanites to Lady Khepri and how she figures out how to weaponize them.
don't underestimate the effects of loss of purpose
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Honestly it'll be funnier when he realizes that he is technically subordinate to Aisha now due to said debt.
I've been thinking about things that Joe could probably make and I realized he's probably able to make Rings of Power, LotR style. Technically those were made by those were made by elves with the exception of the One Ring itself. So presumably Joe should be capable of it himself. This lead to me thinking it would probably be a worthy endeavor. The Rings were dangerous but that was because of a combination of the One Ring existing and them being given to people who weren't supposed to have them in the first place. Also the backdoors that were built in that Joe could just not make. The Rings were intended for Elves and the Elves who did use Rings didn't seem to experience any negative side effects other than those from the One Ring. So presumably a set of Rings intended for the Forge would be safe.
The effects of the Rings are somewhat vague but they seem to make everything about the user better. Stronger, faster, better senses, and interestingly they seem to give access to Lord of the Rings magic if you don't have it already. The Ring Wraiths apparently became sorcerers like the Elves before they became the Ring Wraiths. The final bit would probably be the most significant honestly. This also includes the ability to see the Unseen which might help with Elven Enchanting, they also seem to give some form of spiritual boost. The Forge would probably be able to learn Elven Enchanting.
The problem would probably be avoiding the negative effects we know men experience when using the Rings though. You don't need to worry about Sauron having access to your mind via the One Ring both became he isn't around and Joe wouldn't build that backdoor in, but you would need to worry about the other effects when making them. For one thing they basically seem to slowly pull the users into the Unseen if if they aren't Elves or Maiar, who are already kind of in the Unseen. That's probably fixable though. Another is that they make you immortal but don't give you more life, instead the user just continues slowly becoming less. That effect is probably avoidable by just making the users already immortal because the immortal Elves and Maiar didn't experience that problem.
The effects of the Rings are somewhat vague but they seem to make everything about the user better. Stronger, faster, better senses, and interestingly they seem to give access to Lord of the Rings magic if you don't have it already. The Ring Wraiths apparently became sorcerers like the Elves before they became the Ring Wraiths. The final bit would probably be the most significant honestly. This also includes the ability to see the Unseen which might help with Elven Enchanting, they also seem to give some form of spiritual boost. The Forge would probably be able to learn Elven Enchanting.
The problem would probably be avoiding the negative effects we know men experience when using the Rings though. You don't need to worry about Sauron having access to your mind via the One Ring both became he isn't around and Joe wouldn't build that backdoor in, but you would need to worry about the other effects when making them. For one thing they basically seem to slowly pull the users into the Unseen if if they aren't Elves or Maiar, who are already kind of in the Unseen. That's probably fixable though. Another is that they make you immortal but don't give you more life, instead the user just continues slowly becoming less. That effect is probably avoidable by just making the users already immortal because the immortal Elves and Maiar didn't experience that problem.
Brian could just not be told. One of the basic powers of the Rings is for the Rings themselves to become invisible to those who can't see the Unseen when worn. Granted I think that Brian would probably understand if he saw the ring on her index finger or something and was told it was a power booster. It is funny to think about though.
You think Aisha (even new, improved Aisha 2.0) could resist?
Sure the new version wouldn't let the joke outstay its welcome like the original probably would have but the look on the poor guy's face.