They also know about an attempt to impose a restraining order on Sophia, which is not something you do to someone who isn't involved: I think she knows and Hannah knows and it didn't need to be spoken.
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That'd be becouse Zion set up his shards for human use at the start of the Cycle, meanwhile Eden gets killed before she can do this to any of hers shards (except for PtV and possibly that one shard that allows them to make avatars).
Plus, we don't actually know the extent of Slug's shard's abilities, only how Slug used it on C53s.
Definitely don't forget something they very conspicuously didn't mention is that Emma and her dad were Sophia's character witnesses and literally the only reason she got the probational deal at all.
Eh we saw with Uppercrust that Piggot is actively screwing the city and the local prt over in order to kick problems down the road until they aren't her fault when they go wrong even though it makes them worse so they won't be her fault and focusing a lot of the prt's resources on doing that and mitigating how much she gets blamed for. Remember she even was going to get Apeiron who she considers highly unstable a presigned kill order just so she could have the media reveal it to try and shift blame to him so I also have no sympathy for her.
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Honestly, I would consider both shards to be CAPABLE of both options, but their current CONFIGURATION would be one or the other. It is canon that every shard that Zion put out is intentionally crippled and limited, and all of Eden's unreleased shards are damaged and in storage to the point they are equally if not more crippled. So Aisha can only do "Information X on all repositories in range", while the Slug can only do "All information on Repository X in range", but the Entity would be able to do everything from "Information X on Repository Y" to "All information on All repositories".
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nicoo
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That could be the conservation of persecution complex: Taylor seems to be letting hers go, so it had to go somewhere. 😜
Yeah, IMO that was a very good "this, right there, is the problem" moment
PRT ENE: *fucks people over for doing the correct and smart thing.*
also ENE: ... wonder why our organisation is full of idiots and people who know they are doing the wrong thing?
In a way it feels a lot more real to me: the PRT ENE isn't dysfunctional just because, there's a consistent dynamic causing it in-story.
I agree that the over-the-top information manglement would stop information leaks... at least assuming they are followed:
my experience is that if the security measures hinder getting things done, there's ~always a point people will choose to work around the security measures so they can get their job done.
Even assuming the PRT ENE is full of people who somehow comply perfectly with information management guidelines, crippling the organisation's ability to do anything in order to stop further leaks isn't what I'd call "run competently."
It makes them even more ineffectual than normal at a time they are most needed, and it does nothing to fix the actual issues (moles and compromised information systems).
Plus, compromised information systems can be exploited in other ways than intelligence collection: for instance, faking messages from the console, or selectively blocking legit messages, could cause massive chaos in the short time until it's discovered (and hopefully fixes) and could lead a cape directly into an ambush etc.
In Joe's words (ch. 95.5) :
No such efforts are needed, Piggot is doing a perfectly fine job grabbing all the blame 😜
More seriously, I'd assume they are happening, but in the broader PRT and at too-high a level to be visible from Miss Militia's viewpoint.
To be clear, I don't think Piggot alone is to blame, for all there's a monstruous amount of damage she's responsible for:
there's a lot of very-uncomfortable questions to ask about the PRT's overall structure, policies, and oversight, given they should have prevented turning the local branch into her personal, dysfunctional fiefdom
... which is exactly why I expect she'll get thrown under the bus instead, especially since enough digging would reveal Cauldron's machinations to cripple the PRT ENE.
Though it would be hilarious (and interesting) if someone (Survey or Joe?) were to find and leak evidence of those machinations, especially if they show Costa-Brown was involved.
I suspect a large part of that is timing: replacing the local PRT director is most likely not something that can be managed in a day or two, especially if there's a risk Piggot would be petty-enough to not brief her successor, or even not tell anyone where all the files are (given how tight a grip she kept on the branch's information manglement)
Anyone stepping in would need days or weeks to just learn the information they need to make decisions, and the local PRT can't afford to be paralized for so long, even when the alternative is a control freak crippling their ability to respond to the crisis.
Thanks, forgot to mention that part. I honestly don't think Hannah knows, because it would show up in her internal monologue:
Assuming she realised Shadow Stalker was one of the bullies and behind the locker murder attempt:
- She wouldn't explain the case being locked down, as the BBPD being petty because the previous case was (mis)handled by the PRT; she'd know they are likely trying to nail Shadow Stalker down as well.
- She'd presumably be freaking out over what evidence the BBPD might find that incriminates Hess in the whole abuse, not worry about the assault case in particular; IIRC, Hess wasn't even in Winslow for once.
My read was that either Miss Militia might not be aware of that detail, or that was part of what was hinted at in her reaction to Sophia covering up for Emma, as she could be compelled to protect the person who let her avoid jail (regardless of whether she was herself involved in the abuse)
I didn't mean to imply she inferred that Shadow Stalker was directly involved in the locker assault specifically, just that Shadow Stalker was involved in abusing Taylor in general.
nicoo
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I'm not following how anyone could infer that Shadow Stalker was involved in the bullying campaign, but not consider she might be involved in its single most horrific event. Especially since her powers would be quite handy in the setup.
Fact 1: Emma was arrested for assault.
Fact 2: The assault was recorded together with testimony that it was the end of a longer bullying campaign.
Fact 3: As part of the legal proceedings associated with the assault, Taylor's representative filed for a restraining order against Sophia Hess even though she wasn't present for the assault.
Conclusion: Sophia Hess was one of the perpetrators of that bullying campaign.
nicoo
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Sure. I agree they have no excuse not to come to that conclusion.
What I was saying in the previous message was that I don't get how someone could ride that train of thought, and get off before realising the locker was part of the bullying campaign and thus Sophia Hess was likely one of its perpetrators as well.
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Apeiron: No! I would never! Even if I would be able to make absolutely incredible things out of their corpses!
Thankfully, she was experienced enough in not showing signs, particularly for public events.
I think it's a little much to hope they don't do anything intentionally stupid much less incidentally stupid. In fact, they are currently doing something stupid, and official policy is to be stupid. I'm not even joking on that last part, current official policy is known to be a bad idea and actively detrimental. They are still doing it because following it is the rules.
The actions the Director is taking with regards to Taylor's case are further prove of corruption. Independently of Taylor being a cape, she is the victim of an assault and attempt of murder and they are protecting a suspect for no other reason that Sophia is affiliate to the PRT.
If Sophia goes into a killing spree in the middle of the street while on her civilian id will the PRT protect her and make the crimes go away to protect her secret identity?
Yeah, I'm waiting for the aftermath of the big Butcher fight when everyone realizes that Joe stole one of her dismembered limbs.
Kid Win: Dude, you let Apeiron take her leg?
Clockbocker: No, I handed him her leg and asked if he could cure cancer. Then he promised to cure everyone with cancer in Brockton before midnight tonight.
Kid Win: *eyes the arm Clock is hiding behind his back*
Clockbocker: Think about it! It would be unethical of me not to!
It's good to have a leg up over your issues.
Something else I just thought of, isn't RCB showing her hand with her refusal to give Piggot a Lethe proof cape here? If I knew there was a person who demanded certain types of people as a specific counter in place, the first first thing I (or I would assume the prudent person, which is where the burden of law comes in) is assign one of those people to the area where that person is based out of, so the local area can respond to any problems.
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The Warrior: "I didn't do it, and no one can remember otherwise."
Random Civilian: "What are you talking about?"
The Warrior: "Exactly!"
Alternatively, sending a rare and valuable resource into a volatile climate is a good way to lose that resource. Not least if they just refuse to go because the Bay be like that. Plus, she already has one; MM is not affected by Aisha's "basic" power. Though either she never heard of borgles or she was affected by the gem-enhanced version.
Not in this case because the PRT at large cannot support, officially or not, the PRT ENE with all the leaks and decisions it made nor trust them to behave in a productive way.
Not only that but one of their thoughs is that Apeiron could analyze them to build countermeasure against their immunity or the power would be stronger depending on distance.
Finally these Capes are people with their own lives, libes that they may not want to uproot to go to the Bay, a poor city that is full of dangers and threats with a team led by an "unstable Mad Tinker".
Not really considering the current wider attitude towards Piggot's leadership but also why does she even need one since they aren't wanting to fight the forge and the wider prt wants friendly relations which sending a counter to Lethe could interfere with because of the message it sends.
Or it could just be that in the brief time the meme was erased which I'll note Miss Militia was probably travelling back from the charity event during that she never came across a place where something had obviously been removed since she hadn't had a chance to check her notifications to learn about Battery's testing either.
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this is worst since it could come in the form of an interview since Taylor is getting national attention
"the people who did this were Emma barns, Madison Clemens and Sophia Hess"
Hess assumes her identity has been leaked and tries to assassinate Taylor
or just runs away
To my understanding, part of the reason that the prediction Shards work so well is that they coordination and communicate to some extent. But thinker shards are still known to interfere with each other. Given that Apeiron is broadcasting the equivalent of a Nice Guy vibe ('Who me? I'm not messing with your predictions! You know exactly what I am going to do.') then one of the thinker Shards in BB is probably being blamed.
You know how you pound on the wall and yell at that one inconsiderate and noisy neighbor? Every time Marche spasms and twitches in place I am imaging her Shard recieving a data packet equivalent of [SHADDUP!]
Joe's luck/probability manipulation has been very apparent in recent chapters. Which would have a progressively larger impact on the rest of the world. Which would result in increased and hostile inter-Shard communications. ('Your moronic stumbling about ruined my experiment!')
Be interesting to see if all of that communication might affect Jack's mindset as he approaches BB.🤪
The PRT might not. Piggot's response however might less smart.
Another rating reclassification, eh? Gonna make them panic.