Ace Dreamer
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Is Tetra being set up to be an Entity, or an eater of Entities?
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Brockton's Celestial Forge (Worm/Jumpchain)
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Subrosian_Smithy
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These are not mutually exclusive options!
AntaeusTheGiant
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Huh.
Wasn't Theo going to have been at the Charity Event? I know he was helping with the settup along with the Gym crew. Think there is a possibility he might have babysitting duties that night? What are the chances he has his sister with him at the Event? Regardless, I'd guess the chances of Theo triggering at all in this story isn't very high, pity that....
Well the thing about Entities is that that's the Shards transportation configuration, no more of a true form then any other, and that while they're deployed for something like a cycle no single collection of them is any more of a true self then any other. The Avatars like Zion and Eden are as much The Warrior and The Thinker as the Endbringers/Wardens are; they're just in place to cultivate conditions rich in what the Shards need to develop.
Now Joe just needs to give Garment a body and then Tetra can hug her mom and dad.
Also now imagine everyone's response to that.
Also now imagine everyone's response to that.
ExploerTM
Ruin has found you at last!
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I highly doubt that Garment even wants a proper body cuz she sees nothing wrong with her current form of existence. Although, I always envisioned that when Survey finishes her Magnum Opus - Fashion to English translator - she could start using time to time a sort of holographic projector that creates projection of her body inside her clothes so people could have easier time speaking to her (aside from having problems with understanding her in general, Flechette also noted that it was really weird and tad bit uncomfortable not being able to see face of whom you are talking to)
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Legend slowly turned as Apeiron approached him.
"Ah, Apeiron. We finally meeeaaaaaahhhhh..."
Joe was only clad in his Kamui.
"Uhm. Hi?" Joe waved a hand in front of the slightly drooling Legend.
The hero startled. "I AM HAPPILY MARRIED!"
"Uhm...good for you?"
"I AM VERY HAPPY!"
"...That's...great?"
"HOW ABOUT...uhum...how about you meet my husband? Privately. A nice candlelight dinner...soft music...the moonlight playing over both of your bodies..."
"I'm just...I'm going to leave"
"...why yes, my love, I can save you from the evil mercenary who has captured you...what's that, he demands a price for your freedom?"
"OKAYLEAVINGBYE!"
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"Don't lose your way" take an entirely new meaning here.
There was some explanation for not covering yourself when wearing a kamui, something about not having shame and resisting the kamui, but I was drooling too much to listen.
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Ace Dreamer
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I... don't think Apeiron needs to worry too much about reducing his combat effectiveness, do you? Also, his wearing other clothes as well? Would give Garment more flexibility, and something for Tetra to snack on.
... Do you think Tetra could eat Kaiser's armour faster than he could make more of it?
"Stop that! Your trousers are eating my trousers!"
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Ace Dreamer
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I got the impression Joe's very late teens or very early twenties. But, The Forge, I guess he's sorta ageless, now...
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Joe started college about 3 years ago so I'm guessing 22 or so.
IIRC Lord posted a longer Joe backstory timeline but I can't seem to find it. Might be my imagination.
The Shallow
Shallow, Yet Deep
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Tattletale said this early in the story.6.1 Interlude Taylor said:
We never got told his birthday as far as I can tell, but given nothing stated he's still 21.
In other news, related to the upcoming arc, I just ran into this bit of chapter 32
This is Alena and Joe very briefly discussing Sphere, though I should note that at this point Joe is stressed enough by this conversation that he notes that his control is slipping.
I don't actually expect this to affect Joe's actions much, but I wonder if there will be any hesitancy over murking Mannequin.
Or you know given his mastery over memory and the mind he could just mind wipe him and/or alter his brain so that he is no longer insane. He might be able to do something similar for Brunscar and Riley given all of them are really only apart of the S9 due to their mental problems.
It would also be cool to see both mannequin and bonesaw as apart of the Celestial forge.
However I think that Joe will probably keep 1 of them alive purely for experimental reasons so that he can thoroughly test the Gemma and Pollentia. Stuff he couldn't do with Aisha and the undersides.
Speaking of what if Joe augmented the Gemma and Pollentia? Would it improve the powers in any way? Would it just make it easier to use or could it improve the strength? Could it cause the connected shard to "mind meld" with the parahuman like Khepri and QA in a controlled manner?
I hope that Joe keeps some if not all of the S9 alive so he can study, reproduce, adapt and improve upon their powers. Like with Jack Slash and bonesaw Joe should theoretically be able to access their shards and study them so that he can connect to other shard like Jack Slash and have the understanding of biology and probably some peeks into how shards function that bonesaw has.
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Obligatory "For Joe killing parahumans amounts to putting them into timeout corner"
"Increases the backlash from them" actually. Joe can probably get around it by producing actual cooling systems rather then just relying on evaporation.
Well it's good to know that he's merciful deep down despite being a Earth Bet native.
It would probably be safer and more considerate for him to put them into storage or stasis or some effect to that effect then to leave them in their Shards and whatnot.
Also while he could definitely improve the fine-control a Parahuman has over their power by improving their Pollentia actual communication would probably take a bit of modification on the Shards end of things.
I don't know about wearing stuff over a kamui but the point of the exposed skin is to mitigate the two main drawbacks of life fibers: control and absorption.
Life fibers are parasitic hyper-predators, they consume blood and neural energy to sustain themselves and their population, the more area they cover the higher the burden on the body to maintain a Kamui, and eventually they become strong enough to take complete control away from the host gaining autonomy.
Joe is powerful enough that he really shouldn't have a skimpy Kamui, the burden on his body, even for a divinely crafted and enhanced one, should be negligible, and Tetra is way more in control of herself than Senketsu ever was, such that that increased level of control would be beneficial as it would allow Tetra to use her awareness to dodge attacks.
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See, I think that would be cool, but Joe seems to be taking a hardline stance as of the moment.
Random Thought; Generator Rex Nanites are all about countering mutations. If Joe didn't want to murk Crawler he could easily turn him back into a regular human.
The thing is, the Corona Gemma/Pollentia aren't actually that useful to Joe? Like, back when he first met Aisha, had he wanted to he could have done some brain surgery and made Ren part of her very brain. He just didn't want to do that, for obvious reasons.
They're literally just specialized tissue that the Shards use to read the brains of their hosts; As we know from Bonesaw's experiments, removing them doesn't actually do much for you, it just makes controlling powers way harder. Bonesaw would love it if she could extract agents and use them for all sorts of wonderful biohorror, but that cannot be done. If Joe wants to remove a parahuman's power, he'd have to make a billion tiny alterations to their genetics that probably cancel out on the macro, but make them unidentifiable to their shards.
Given that Amy just seemed to alter Taylor's brain, I don't actually think that's true.
The way I see it, the main problem with Shard communication is that Shards think in very alien ways; Taylor couldn't understand human speech, which if you know anything about the human brain demonstrates how much her brain had been warped.
Joe would have to do more than alter the Corona Gemma/Pollentia, he'd have to install some sort of translator of some sort.
Wasn't it confirmed that Joe's gonna Soul Jar the S9 to ensure they can't be brought back via shard network shenanigans, no matter what?
I'm not sure that's really accurate? It wasn't too long ago that Tetra had to be wearing The Avid Glove nearly all the time because she was constantly low on energy due to how she developed.
Also, Joe's outfit isn't crazy skimpy, he's just shirtless and not even entirely. I think there could've been more coverage had Joe not just upgraded Tetra to the degree he had, but given the current balance between their metaphysical strengths, I think the current skin coverage makes sense.
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What I'm implying is that Joe would use the Pollentia and Gemma to basically back door into shards.
It could also just give Joe like a dimensional address which would allow him to study the shards of specific people allowing for him to gain more concrete data because he might not know what power a random shard is providing until he has already studied it very thoroughly.
Doing so might even improve his ability to translate their "speech"
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I don't think that's true. As I said, it's just random tissue that Shards use to back-door into their hosts brains. Do we have canon evidence that suggests this isn't a one-way connection?
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Manipulating it via Amy altered the restrictions on Taylor's power.
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Good point! I didn't think of that.
Even assuming it's just random tissue Joe could probably replicate it with a machine that could then probably be built to detect the connection and then have the shard send data to a computer which would mimic a human brain to trick the shard into thinking everything is alright while constantly testing the limits of the shard connection.
It might be more limited than if it wasn't just random tissue but it could still be useful. Especially as it might allow for the depowering of people by basically routing the shard connection to the machine.
However as LightLan pointed out it isn't just tissue because you can manipulate the power by manipulating the brain however it could be an interesting experiment either way.