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Battle Action Harem Highschool Side Character Quest (No SV, you are the Waifu)

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Dark as Silver said:
Durga is clearly not just pushing Anna towards a better mental state as he just backtracked here.
Time to speculate on just what they want. My guess is that Durga is trying to act in Annas best interests as it sees them. However I'm not sure his list of priorities would match ours.
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Uh, I do believe that BOLD text is in fact 'War-Anna'. This is based on some earlier text between Italizied + Bold talking 'behind Anna's back' you could say. And it sounds a lot like Bold is 'Full War, Cynical Anna' while Italicized and heck some normal or 'I don't remember recording this' is Durga.

Evidence:
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"You won't be. You'd never refuse a request to engage in battle and they- the other Valkyries might care about you, but that machine, STRATNET, it won't," Sandra leans forward, tone almost pleading, "You'll be deprived. Deprived of your humanity. Of your freedoms. Living a life set and regimented by others."

"I'm not here to-" your word stick in your throat, -run away, Anna. Do other, normal things. Live a childhood that I never could give you. Live on and be happy, please. You understand me right? You've always protected her. Will you remind her?-

"I- I would rather lose some freedoms than have other people dying on my watch," you say hesitantly. Where… where was that memory from, it's so vivid, but you don't… whispers from the grave.

"Anna, there are others. The Three Hundred, The Twenty. You don't have to carry so much alone."
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The key part is the memory recall, it's brought back by Durga, while Bold Text clearly isn't bringing it back up but reacting to it. Because who else can 'You understand me right? You've always protected her. Will you remind her?-' be from other than someone who cared about Anna and was talking to Durga.
Of course I guess it might be the other way around, but it feels like it makes way more sense for it to be Durga recording things in Anna's voice and bringing back memories/whispers from the grave at key moments to help Anna rather than the other more cynical/war-ish text.

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You take a moment to consider, expanding your awareness.

Syifa. Ahead. Exhaust fumes radiate into the air under her. Exhaust energy levels. Wrong. Flight Two, now turning, flickers of active scanners briefly lighting in your direction. Scanning band peaks. Wrong. Ahead in the stadium. Valkyries. One hundred and fifty seven. Thirty six first year cadets, eighty one second year cadets. Thirty eight third year cadets. Two Instructors. Radio waves, interlacing frequency modulated transmissions. Clean, no noise. No microwave background. No radio emissions from sun. Visible, infrared and ultraviolet spectrum light only. Distance, five hundred thousand kilometers. No particle noise. No microwave background. All wrong. Dirt beneath you, grains uniform, identical. Wrong. Magnetic field, steady. Wrong. Spatial distortion, third year cadet vanishes. Not Teleport. Not Gate. Exiting simulation.

Simulation.

This world is not real.

"I have adjusted myself," you answer.

You feel… strange. A little drained, a little tired. A little less.

Your uncertainty however is gone, and you firm up your resolution.
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Avalanche said:
In the background, above, you can hear a part of yourself -a braver, more resolute part- dutifully casting the test for the other cadets. The serenity is shaken every time a familiar name is called, but you stay where you are.

It was nice here, and you could concentrate. Singing a familiar tune to yourself, you play around with the simulator, exploring it.

… Is this really the only way?

>Victor: Syifa Wulandari
>Third set: Victory by Cadet Syifa Wulandari, three rounds to zero.

You notice the simulation come to an end and you finally rejoin the rest of yourself… but for a moment, you wait.

Are you not coming?

No. This is your life now. There is nothing more for me to do.

Maybe some other time then-

And-

You-

Surface.

You feel… fine.

At least some part of you has made some peace with the idea of humans… competing with humans. It was just a sport. Here, at least.

It would be a while before you fully accepted your realisation, but it was progress. Tentative, but there.
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There's certainly some sort of mental partitioning going on in Anna's mind, and it certainly seems to involve 'Neutral' Anna, a 'Cynical/War' Anna, and 'Durga'.

And the only time all three unite is for combat. During safe training and stuff it's mostly Anna/Durga with some Cynical-Commentary.
In fact I argue that the Anna we saw providing commentary was Durga. 'Neutral' Anna and ' Cynical' Anna are clearly both 'distracting' and 'distancing' themselves, and 'Cynical' Anna is trying to stay 'disengaged' to avoid hindering with 'Neutral' Anna's recovery.


Edit: Slightly Ninja-ed but still... I'm fairly sure we saw Durga this update, not Anna.
 
Dark Abstraction said:
That's not Durga. That's Anna.


[edit] Also, to note something for people in general; there are 317 of the "300" frames. Not 306, not 315, but 317.
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318. Koji has one, clearly.

Deathwings said:
@Tayta Malikai

Gonna be honest, the nonsensical way you wrote your omake made my eyes glaze right over. Even after three attempt at reading it, I've retained maybe 10% of it, which can be boiled down to "Sandra is an insane Mary/Villain Sue who succeed because PLOT SHIELD" at best.
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The whole thing is a giant reference to a comedy. It's for lulz, not for serious. PLOT SHIELD is ok in lulz stuff, yo.
 
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SpeckofStardust said:
Not when the dam thing is a single omake with is 30+ thousand words long which is a drag unless its a well written story, which being all comedy is most certainly not.
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Speak for yourself.
I liked it.
I also did not perceive it as a comedy.
(And skipped all the action scenes because text is shitty medium for action, and especially glazy one after reading without skipping 28k words of action.)
 
LightMage said:
Uh, I do believe that BOLD text is in fact 'War-Anna'. This is based on some earlier text between Italizied + Bold talking 'behind Anna's back' you could say. And it sounds a lot like Bold is 'Full War, Cynical Anna' while Italicized and heck some normal or 'I don't remember recording this' is Durga.

Evidence:

The key part is the memory recall, it's brought back by Durga, while Bold Text clearly isn't bringing it back up but reacting to it. Because who else can 'You understand me right? You've always protected her. Will you remind her?-' be from other than someone who cared about Anna and was talking to Durga.
Of course I guess it might be the other way around, but it feels like it makes way more sense for it to be Durga recording things in Anna's voice and bringing back memories/whispers from the grave at key moments to help Anna rather than the other more cynical/war-ish text.




There's certainly some sort of mental partitioning going on in Anna's mind, and it certainly seems to involve 'Neutral' Anna, a 'Cynical/War' Anna, and 'Durga'.

And the only time all three unite is for combat. During safe training and stuff it's mostly Anna/Durga with some Cynical-Commentary.
In fact I argue that the Anna we saw providing commentary was Durga. 'Neutral' Anna and ' Cynical' Anna are clearly both 'distracting' and 'distancing' themselves, and 'Cynical' Anna is trying to stay 'disengaged' to avoid hindering with 'Neutral' Anna's recovery.


Edit: Slightly Ninja-ed but still... I'm fairly sure we saw Durga this update, not Anna.
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I'm not so happy with splitting Durga into Durga and Kali, I do remember that bold text is generally associated with different things to the unbolded however I'm leaning towards more of an expectation that what we're seeing is a matter of emphasis, priority and the means of communication than a true schizophrenic break either in Anna or in Durga.
 
Dark as Silver said:
I'm not so happy with splitting Durga into Durga and Kali, I do remember that bold text is generally associated with different things to the unbolded however I'm leaning towards more of an expectation that what we're seeing is a matter of emphasis, priority and the means of communication than a true schizophrenic break either in Anna or in Durga.
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Maybe then BOLD is when Anna + Durga are combined fully or something then. AKA Kali.

Although it could be just Anna's desires/worries cropping up. Not a split personality but instead all her worries/fears together.
 
This is simply speculation, but I'd say the reason Anna lacks VDS is that upon learning that she failed to save those she promised she had a mental breakdown sufficiently extreme that Durga took drastic action to "repair" the damage. Such an outcome is only possible for first generation Valkyrie as once high command learned it was possible they mandated the installation of safety features for the second, and third generations.

Going back to the action Durga took, well judging by how vague Anna's memories of her past are vague with Durga supplying information to fill in the gaps, and the fact that we have one example of Durga literally running an intervention to keep Anna "normal" by relocating the harmful memories from Single Sweep into storage... Durga simply relocated everything that "might" be the source of Anna's mental breakdown to a distinct partition of memory I.E the bold entity.

Actually are the three hundred Frames what happens when the user is killed, and the partitioned memory finally acquires a purpose I.E to avenge them?
 
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Dark Abstraction said:
[edit] Also, to note something for people in general; there are 317 of the "300" frames. Not 306, not 315, but 317.
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There were 317 of the 300 Frames. Now there are 315.
Avalanche said:
Of course, seeing as there are only 315 Frames in the 300, that doesn't actually happen.
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Avalanche said:
Noooot really. Humanity can still escape from Earth if they wanted to, Abraxas is classified as a Class A Type Zero but if all 315 of the 300 frames were to escort a mega colony ship that then also had all 20,000 of the normal Valkyries on it, he'd be shit outta luck.
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Avalanche said:
A short summary would be the 300 frames are originally a set of 317 Valkyrie frames discovered off the coast of Africa in 2061 during the Battle of Britain. They were the only Valk frames found to already have equipment integrated onto them as opposed to normal frames, which are found bare.

Unlike other frames, the equipment is not customisable, is not removable and neither can new equipment be integrated into a 300 frame. As with other frames, the systems they are equipped with all improve over time, but the rate of improvement for the 300 are anomalous in that they improve steadily regardless of use and uniformly across all 315 surviving frames. As mentioned, there is no degrees of compatability with a 300 frame also, it is a binary (yes it works great/no it doesn't work at all) for all humans capable at all syncing a Valkyrie core.
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Avalanche said:
1: Scrapped Princess, Sentou Yousei Yukikaze, (Very little difference between this and -1, mostly a manner of tone, you'd find it much harder to fuckup and that's about it, for example, the near stroke in Post 6 wouldn't have happened, there'd still be all 317 of the 300 frames, )
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Avalanche said:
So everyone knows the two main officially groupings; "The Three Hundred" meaning all the Ace rank Valks and at the very top of them; "The Twenty" Genius ranked Valks. Neat and cultured. Nah. It's a real madhouse on the inside. First at the bottom you have the Aces with ranks lower than 315. Basically, can't just ask for a Three Hundred Frame and get it. And well, you all should know what that means right? Blah blah you're not actually part of the 300, 'Ace in name only' and all that bullshit.

Next rung up, ranks 100 to 315. Yeah, there's another internal division around there. Somehow, some of the Valks got it into their heads that the 'triple digits' aren't as hot as the 'double digits'. Ranks 1-99 are now prestigious in a way that ranks 100-315 aren't. So yeah, keeping count? There's already two tiers of snobbery here, Aces ranked 315 and above look down on the ones ranked lower and Aces of rank 99 and above look down on the Aces with rankings in the hundreds. It's breathtaking honestly.

Next, the so called double digits, ranks 25 to 99. The snobbery mentioned towards Aces not in the double digits tends to only surface in the upper third. Time to be hypocritical. The reason for this is the upper third of the double digits is a lot more mobile and varied in terms of ranking. Valks move into, around and out of the upper third of the double digit ranks all the time. The lower ranks from about 70 down are fairly static and everyone knows each other and are well and sick of the honestly kinda pointless competitive environment that UN promotes. Like sure, a competitive or any form of high stress environment promotes Valk skill growth, but you're all Ace rank fliers now. The UN expects you to be able to hold back low rank Zeros solo and you're all busy hissing and spitting at each other like cats.

Okay, back on track. Next grouping up from the so called 'double digit ranks' are The Twenty. Ranks 4 to 24, well, now it's 5 to 25. Maybe they'll start calling it The Thirty now, since you know, rounding up and all. I could have an entire second rant about the UN's magical world of numbers where both ~640 and 315 = Three Hundred and 24 = Twenty, but I won't. The Twenty all know that their ranks are sorted by dice rolls and coin flips, so they don't make any fuss and they certainly don't talk down to the other Aces, no matter their rank since the lot of them are, I quote, 'way too old for this shit'.
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Jonen C said:
Edit: I also had an impulse that the Hot Valk on Valk Action omake was a school project movie where the main cast and other cadets got roped in and played their parts to the hilt.
Except Anna. Most of her bits is just edited footage from a simulator run, with a bit of CGI for the story bits and most of the off the wall 'how is this even' toned down a bit.
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Funnily enough, back when I was first on this whole Strangelove kick, that was pretty much the idea I had. Something along the lines of "Sandra dug up this old film about pre-Impact humans behaving foolishly, let's have a team-building exercise everyone!" Wouldn't be too out of place for this sort of anime I reckon.

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Nah. I figure Australia was played by one of the school custodians/part time comedians. And the story bout the hat was adlibbed, based on the true story.
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Actually, I wonder who does play all the guys in the film, if we're going for this interpretation. There's that UN Army staff sergeant, at least two Space Force personnel, Australia, South Africa, and the President. I guess, like you say, they just went and got random UN support staff to play them?

Alternatively, Koujirou is the next Peter Sellers. Always nice to have a post-war goal in mind...

Deathwings said:
@Tayta Malikai

Gonna be honest, the nonsensical way you wrote your omake made my eyes glaze right over. Even after three attempt at reading it, I've retained maybe 10% of it, which can be boiled down to "Sandra is an insane Mary/Villain Sue who succeed because PLOT SHIELD" at best.
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:oops: I like Sandra, okay?

chocolote12 said:
Literally the only reason she wasn't the good guy was because of the Ant's MAD device that they never bothered to tell anybody about.

Or did everybody miss that they could have kidnapped Koujiro and then resumed their war, to have their cake and eat it too?
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Hazard said:
She wasn't the good guy because she tried to reignite a war that had gone cold for negotiations. Her actions would've resulted in millions of deaths at minimum. And I don't mean Ant deaths either.
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She also wasn't the good guy because she was wrong.

Hazard said:
That is still not to a military officer to decide. That's for the UN government's highest levels, who decide on foreign policy.
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Even if those people behaved like Australia? :lol

Kaizuki said:
The whole thing is a giant reference to a comedy. It's for lulz, not for serious. PLOT SHIELD is ok in lulz stuff, yo.
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In all fairness, with how much it spiralled out of control and the fact that I wrote all the combat with a straight face, the distinction is kind of confused here.

That said, I feel like people may be forgetting exactly how this setting works:
Avalanche said:
Let's just go with the default answer of Higgs powered Nano-carbon-quantum-machines.
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Bugs said:
I looked that up on the internet before remembering Valkyrie Detachment Syndrome.

That said, did you know that in actual medical jargon, VDS stands for Venereal Disease - Syphilis? Because I didn't, before the search.
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Aw fffffffffffffffuck. Can you I dunno, suggest me a better name and acronym? Cause jesus fucking christ. Just... Fffffffffffffffffuck.
Alastor Mobius Toth said:
Two very, very important questions:

Nier:Automata collab when, and when can we expect a browser-game adaptation?
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SOON FOR THE GLORY OF HUMANITY!
Alphaleph said:
Avalanche already said he got a portion of it ready, so it's more like the end of the year.
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Alphaleph said:
Reminder that it's 20k words of mostly structure.
:V
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Rumours of my backlog have been greatly exaggerated.
kilopi505 said:
Uh folks, post faster. We got to get past page number 666 as fast as we can.

Also, @Avalanche, is part 2 of the tournament arc the place where we will again have choices to pick?
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Yup.
 
Avalanche said:
Aw fffffffffffffffuck. Can you I dunno, suggest me a better name and acronym? Cause jesus fucking christ. Just... Fffffffffffffffffuck.
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Quick! Everyone search for obscure disorders, syndromes, and other things to name this after!

I find the image of:

"Nope, that one's taken as well."

As they try to figure out a name for this with a corresponding acronym that isn't taken to be hilarious.
 
Jonen C said:
Dude, she gets more screentime in the tournament arc than Anna.
Hell, more than Setsuna.

Then again, everyone (but Anna) got more screen time during the first half of the tournament arc than Setsuna.
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Guys.

We're a side character trying to gain main character status through screen time and quirkiness.

What if we're not the only one? What if Claire is also aware of the ladder, and she knows that the only solid way to get ahead is to hitch her wagon to Koujirou's? What if Claire is the protagonist of the alternate universe version of this quest, where the players decided to go for hard mode?

Sure, we still have plenty of backstory and depth to fall back on, but this anime is focused on Koujirou, not us. If we're not careful, Claire's going to steal the spotlight from right under our noses!
 
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