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If it's important enough to use one capital ship it's probably imporntant enough to use every capital ship available. I'm part Japanese and I know that they completely screwed this up.

Here's a random thought for you: Every single Japanese WWII cruiser could outrun a US cruiser during the middle of the night. If it wasn't for radar the US Navy would have taken much heavier casualties.
not here kouta, you seem to be in the wrong thread. There's a multitude of WWII related threads you can probably have this discussion in, but I think this is the wrong thread.
 
well I was thinking more from a narrative/characterization purpose.

What narrative purpose do you want to give the arc? For example you could make the arc about de-weaponizing/helping Anna be more 'normal' while in the larger context of the 'anime' Anna and Shuri can provide a warning to Coke Zero on what could/will happen if he goes too far (or making the point that there are no heros, only soldiers... tired tired soldiers).
I do agree that Anna's PTSD is probably her most character defining aspect that would have her stand out compared to everyone else. The thing is, we've already played that card at least twice.

The first time was when we sparred against Koujirou and then freaked out that he hurt himself. His response was to just say 'it would be fine' when we expressed our concerns towards him and then drop it. Setsuna wasn't much, if at all better, and while Yukari has shown a general awareness that Anna has problems, she seems to have mostly chalked that up to a side effect of us being in Anchorage.

The second time was when we did the Single Sweep scenario, at which point Sandra and Shuri did notice, and it started Sandra's interest and attempts to help Anna deal with her issues. Shuri has been seen willing to help Sandra out with this when asked or she feels Sandra is making a mistake, but otherwise taking no overt actions. Koujirou, Setsuna, and Yukari, however, didn't seem to notice at all. Yukari seems to have had an excuse though.

So if we do want to trigger that arc, it has to be triggering it with Sandra and hopefully Shuri. I suppose after typing this out, I have come to the conclusion that it could work if we can push the current interactions with Anna and Sandra into it's own arc of 'help Anna!'. I'd personally like to include Shuri too, and in order to get screen time we need to get Koujirou to be aware of it. I don't think Koujirou is going to genuinely notice outside of either stealing the limelight from another character that could handle the situation better (someone who would actually deal with the issue instead of aggressively sweeping it under the rug) or until Anna has a full mental breakdown. I am a fan of neither.

If we were to extrapolate this and find a way to safely include the entire class, and by extension Koujirou who would proceed to be aware of the situation but not actively participating it, that would be ideal. Any idea on how to start this?
We do other stuff with them, like get them up on Impeller skill to begin teaching them fun tricks. And maybe poking around Koji's frame to try and induce more weapons, while Setsuna tsun's in the background.
While plans to get Anna to teach will hopefully pan out, she currently is horrible at it and while this would make things up to others, it wouldn't help much in the reduction of Anna's character relevance. She'd get some screen time, but not enough to make up for sitting out yet another tournament. I'd prefer to keep the path of making Anna an interesting character for the audience as viable as possible while pursuing other paths, so that doesn't really deal with my issue.
 
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Personally I think interaction would be more notable if it was Shuri being the main instigator via seeking to learn via throwing herself at the wall, and Anna is the highest wall (after all we did get Koji to do a super move did we not?)
 
Try to tell them about things that may come up beforehand, such as how much you remember of your 'other self' that is sequestering herself away from the world and that you are using your impeller to replicate many of your normal biological functions for increased efficiency.
Is Anna even aware of this? Timse that it might have happened Anna generally doesn't even seem to acknowledge that it might be unusual behavior.
You response tersely.

>Sweeper 1: You would have hit humans.<
>Sweeper 4: What…? So?<



Your heavy particle projectors swing around and lock onto the threat-

>Keeper 3: Anna was doing you a favour, if your missiles hit a bunch of friendlies in this sim, our score would plummeted.<
>Sweeper 4: Yeah right, I bet you two are just KS'ing for the extra points!<
>Vanguard 1: Don't be foolish, do you think that friendly fire would be acceptable on an actual battlefield?<
>Sweeper 4: Well this isn't- oh… Yeah. Shit. Yeah, sorry you two.<
>Vanguard 7: Believe us, we know. We got hit by this on Monday after all.<
>Keeper 3: Just remember the point of this exercise.<
>Sweeper 4: Yeah, goddammit, my bad… um, also… thanks…<
>Sweeper 1: Make sure to be careful in the future.<
>Vanguard 7: No problem.<
>Keeper 3: Koji, you didn't even do anything.<


…You bring your heavy particle projectors back down, returning them to idly sweeping over Antagonists- over simulated Antagonist forces.
Okay.
 
Little white lies…

And other similar lines of bold and italics are what gets called war Anna. Am on phone now, so further analysis will have to wait.

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At computer now, so further analysis begins.
Word of god has noted that Valkyrie Cores are prone to having a 'temperment' more than something complex enough to string together complete sentences. Kandakara seems to be an exception, but being attached to Koujirou this is more an expected abnormality than other cases. Given that Anna is not the protagonist of her own show yet, and may never be such, the chances are that Anna is using her ability to run parallel trains of thought to create the appearance that she is less traumatized than is actually the case.
though most Valkyries describe them as having a temperament rather than something quite as complex as a personality.

It can be seen to happen here:
You hum, playing with the electrons racing around your hands. A dozen million of the tiny particles danced on the top of your fingers.

You release them from your Impeller and watch as they are consumed by the simulator, suddenly becoming solid existences you can pin down. You collect them again and you can feel the simulator passing them into your Impeller, one by one, where they again become evanescent little glimpses of possibility.

In the background, above, you can hear a part of yourself -a braver, more resolute part- dutifully casting the test for the other cadets. The serenity is shaken every time a familiar name is called, but you stay where you are.

It was nice here, and you could concentrate. Singing a familiar tune to yourself, you play around with the simulator, exploring it.

… Is this really the only way?

>Victor: Syifa Wulandari
>Third set: Victory by Cadet Syifa Wulandari, three rounds to zero.

You notice the simulation come to an end and you finally rejoin the rest of yourself… but for a moment, you wait.

Are you not coming?

No. This is your life now. There is nothing more for me to do.

Maybe some other time then-

And-

You-

Surface.

You feel… fine.

At least some part of you has made some peace with the idea of humans… competing with humans. It was just a sport. Here, at least.

It would be a while before you fully accepted your realisation, but it was progress. Tentative, but there.

Still feeling a little distant and disconnected,

The War!Anna/Peace!Anna thing is mostly based on this quote from Story Post 19, and presumes that that is largely what the bold and italics sections in earlier updates were as well.

It is not yet a Theory, but as hypotheses go, it works just as well to explain the odd moments as the 'it is Durga' hypothesis, and does not rely on Durga being just as special a snowflake as the literal protagonist's core.
 
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Who are Peace!Anna and War!Anna?

Are you talking about Durga?

This is the scene I was talking about.

In the background, above, you can hear a part of yourself -a braver, more resolute part- dutifully casting the test for the other cadets. The serenity is shaken every time a familiar name is called, but you stay where you are.

It was nice here, and you could concentrate. Singing a familiar tune to yourself, you play around with the simulator, exploring it.

… Is this really the only way?

>Victor: Syifa Wulandari
>Third set: Victory by Cadet Syifa Wulandari, three rounds to zero.

You notice the simulation come to an end and you finally rejoin the rest of yourself… but for a moment, you wait.

Are you not coming?

No. This is your life now. There is nothing more for me to do.

Maybe some other time then-

And-

You-

Surface.

Pretty sure Durga was casting, Peace!Anna was playing peacefully, and has been the one doing most of the social interaction in this quest, and italicised bold Anna is what I call War!Anna, who has commented on stuff several times during the story.
 
This is the scene I was talking about.



Pretty sure Durga was casting, Peace!Anna was playing peacefully, and has been the one doing most of the social interaction in this quest, and italicised bold Anna is what I call War!Anna, who has commented on stuff several times during the story.
Isn't italicised bold what showed up when Anna commented on how Durga doesn't talk and it said that she just doesn't hear?
 
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Isn't italicised bold what showed up, when Anna commented on how Durga doesn't talk and it said that she just doesn't hear?

Very possible. I can't remember every instance of when italicised bold has spoken in this story. I picture Peace!Anna as the traumatised woobie who's been living daily life so far, and War!Anna is the self-loathing, super-pessimistic war machine. Durga is the actual machine, but behaves more like the concerned alien mother figure trying to get Anna to be a normal girl again and look after herself. Apparently Anna's real mom made an impression on Durga and begged Durga to look after Anna.

-run away, Anna. Do other, normal things. Live a childhood that I never could give you. Live on and be happy, please. You understand me right? You've always protected her. Will you remind her?-

Which explains all those messages Anna was getting early on in the story reminding her to "do normal things".
 
Isn't italicised bold what showed up when Anna commented on how Durga doesn't talk and it said that she just doesn't hear?

Citation please, 'cause I am fairly certain that that was Kandakara, talking to the literal protagonist:
[Hey, when you're like this, surely- can you hear me?]

So Koujirou bypassed the electronic interfaces entirely, again taking direct control of each component. Understanding every mechanism, process and reaction, then directing them. The mental strain was enormous, but that was fine, there was only the goal, no other thoughts required. Control, precise and instantaneous beyond that of even fly by light.

[Hey-]

Koujirou shifted himself upwards, smoothly curving his spine and lifting himself back onto course, his outer Impeller flowing like liquid steel to make minute adjustments as he moved.

[C'mon-]

Shhh. Not now. First we reach the goal.

[So when you're not accidentally obtuse, you're deliberately- Hmph!]

More specifically, a citation of where Durga attempts to talk to Anna and is rebuffed/ignored.
 
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Is Anna even aware of this? Timse that it might have happened Anna generally doesn't even seem to acknowledge that it might be unusual behavior.
Don't know!

People have already pointed out why I believe this to be the case, chapter nineteen being the best example. It could be that she wasn't aware of that part of her before that chapter, it could be that she immediately forgot or repressed that part of her after coming out of her shell to talk to everyone, it could be she's just consciously ignoring it and trying not to think about it. I'm not sure.

The list was mostly meant as a reminder of things we can do as opposed to start the conversation it did...
 
Citation please, 'cause I am fairly certain that that was Kandakara, talking to the literal protagonist:


More specifically, a citation of where Durga attempts to talk to Anna and is rebuffed/ignored.

Found it. Post 13.
Granted it's not explicit, but I feel my inference is sound.

Maybe it was a… 'feature' of his frame? Perhaps you could try ask it directly? Durga rarely returned more than vague emotions the various times when you tried talking to her as far as you remembered, but maybe Kandakara was different.

I infer from this paragraph that Anna has been synced with Durga for so long, and through such important years of development, that she can't differentiate between their thoughts.
 
OK new plan

practice hugging on Shuri.

:V
I think Sandra has that covered.

I remain amused thst instead of assembling a harem of his own as is the Harem Protag's wont, Coke Zero got assimilated into Sandra's harem. :p

If Coke Zero is the harem anime protag, and Anna is Bread-chan Endless Mission Mode PC, then Sandra is the MC of a yuri eroge VN and has unlocked the hidden harem route.

We Muv-Luv now. (Which means Sandra is Takeru in Unlimited then?)
 
Found it. Post 13.
Granted it's not explicit, but I feel my inference is sound.



I infer from this paragraph that Anna has been synced with Durga for so long, and through such important years of development, that she can't differentiate between their thoughts.

The 'vague emotions' felt is explicitly the norm for all Valkyries.
though most Valkyries describe them as having a temperament rather than something quite as complex as a personality.
So, while it is hypothetically possible that Durga can talk, it is far more likely that the protagonist has a truly anomalous core.

We have seen Anna split her thoughts into parallel tracks before, and it is explicitly Anna doing the splitting.
You split your thoughts, putting a part of you in charge of your body to return yourself to the Arcology, while the rest of you continues with the modifications to the Static Wave.

At this point either case is still possible, if not equally probable. That said, given that the 'Durga/War!Anna' comments have a different format from Kandakara's comments, I am inclined to believe that they are not similar events.
 
Whenever Durga wants to talk, she just records a message for Anna. I still believe Durga was the one casting for the competition too.
 
If Coke Zero is the harem anime protag, and Anna is Bread-chan Endless Mission Mode PC, then Sandra is the MC of a yuri eroge VN and has unlocked the hidden harem route.
Sandra Maniax DLC.
Company needs to milk its golden cow for all its worth.
Harem is the true route once you clear out all of the characters.

We Muv-Luv now. (Which means Sandra is Takeru in Unlimited then?)
The one, true, bratty savior of humanity is just waking up on a steel framed bed in a derelict city.
When our heroines... and Coke-zero, reach second year, HE will appear.
And since we don't have a crazy-smart scientist to guide him... the Crafting club will do that duty.
Australia would have been better off with an AG invasion...
 
So, out of curiosity, is there anything we players can do that might get us more than one or two updates per year?
 
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