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We don't know what their limitations are and why they don't just pump out A rank Type zeroes.
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We don't know what their limitations are and why they don't just pump out A rank Type zeroes.
No it's not.
The Hyper Velocity Cannons? Those are lots of dakka, firing thousands of shots per minute.
A 10kg anti matter bomb? That's just a very big bang.
Dakka comes from volume of fire, not yield of the shells you fire.
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Pretty sure its both. A high rate of fire peashooter and a single bomb would both be considered not dakka so Dakka must require both elements to some degree.
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Huh, so is there much of a (relatively) non-combat track for Valks who have great compatibility but poor combat skills? You mentioned courier Valks who resupply the front lines, and if I recall correctly Arcologies also have a Valk bonded to them. Are there other roles? Anna has certainly shown that a Valk can be very effective in construction, for example, and I imagine anyone who can replicate her thinking-with-her-frame would also be amazing for research.
This question probably boils down to which is the limiting factor in producing Valks, cores or candidates? A non-combat track makes more sense if it's harder to find candidates than cores, so you might as well give a core to every person who can use one. They'll be effective somewhere.
Actually I strongly suspect the mass of anti-matter isn't for one big bang, unless Anna thinks that is the best course of action. The big difference between anti-matter and a bunch of nukes, besides complexity and storage space, is dial-a-yield capability. Warheads have a degree of scalability but with matter-antimatter reactions you can, assuming you've got crazy skills like Anna, adjust the reaction mass to exactly match your desired yield.
Yep we are explicitly told about alternate streams being a thing starting second year:
Don't have time to grab the quote right now but the UN is swimming in cores compared to candidates. IIRC there are something like 20k Valkyries but 60k cores so for every candidate they are fielding there are about two cores inactive waiting for someone compatible to show up.
Eh, sort of. 'Dakka' comes from the sound a heavy machinegun makes, or a similar caliber automatic weapon, so a degree of chunkiness for the weapon being described is to be expected. That peashooter does come a whole lot closer though, because it's a repeating gun rather than the singular boom of a bomb.
Fair, but that's Anna. Who, I'll note, can do direct mass-energy-mass conversion with no loss. She would be able to pull a Star Trek and just invert the polarity of the matter she's got in storage with that trick and just deploy an arbitrarily large amount of antimatter anywhere she wants if she can spare the mental bandwith for it.
Not that you'd really need anything more than a single kilogram at a time, generally speaking a 40 MT nuclear explosion is still going create a fireball in excess of 30 kilometers across IIRC, there aren't a whole lot of facilities that can take that kind of blow from the inside. Remember, those HYW's those 10 kilograms of antimatter are replacing are described as demolition charges rather than as battlefield weapons, so they're not meant to be used to smack enemy armies or Type Zeros with.
Yeah I'm not actually certain if there's a point to issuing Anna antimatter. 200/200 in Energy Equivalency means the limiting factor to how much antimatter Anna has should be her conversion speed and impeller strength expended to make the conversion. It would have to be a combat resupply to matter. Being efficient with what she's issued would have much meaning either, since if she wanted to drip out antimatter it shouldn't be hard.
If the antimatter comes when impeller is at a premium and all at once, then there's a use for it.
If the antimatter comes when impeller is at a premium and all at once, then there's a use for it.
There's another use for it; Anna's HPP's use interesting matter, normally speaking, with all sorts of exotic or highly unstable particles flung at near lightspeed. It's all produced in situ.
A store of antimatter could allow some more variation, although it wouldn't substantially impact the sheer destructiveness of the HPPs.
A store of antimatter could allow some more variation, although it wouldn't substantially impact the sheer destructiveness of the HPPs.
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"Are you sure this is going to work?" Koujirou hissed through grit teeth. His gloved fists clenched and unclenched repeatedly while, behind him, Kandakara shapeshifted harshly in a series of expressions. "This doesn't actually make any sense."
His actual thoughts were rather clear: We should be up there, with them.
The angry stare from Setsuna, her hand firmly on his shoulder, was equally clear: You'll die instantly, you idiot.
Worse, Anna would be distracted trying to protect him. Shuri was barely holding her own, and she was keeping distance nearly a kilometer away, swerving in and out of the Instructors' firepower umbrella.
"This Type Zero execution squadron doesn't make any sense," Sandra seethed, shaking her head, "not with everything we've been able to determine about their politics. If this doesn't work, we're dead regardless, so we might as wel--"
"Crafting club to the rescue!" "When you need several million drones at a few seconds notice..." "These drones aren't really up to our usual quality, though--" "Will you shut up already we're literally moments from being overrun" "--basically just a rocket engine attached to a camera, like any plebeian could make--" "I suppose the entire swarm could buy her two seconds, maybe three." "You didn't look into the special programming, I take it." "Huh, that's weird..."
"Thank you very much for coming," Sandra said, very tersely. "Release the drones."
In a series of flashes--some clearly showing last-minute drones being assembled mid-expression--thousands, then tens of thousands, then hundreds of thousands of rusted cylinders flew off into the desert plain. More than one crafting club member gaped at the horror they had wrought, those stick-ugly mass-manufactured camera lenses glued or taped to the top of the floating buckets, whirring audibly as early twenty-first century processors struggled to determine who even was on the battlefield.
The reinforcements had arrived just in time, too. The Class C's were sending their minions away which, according to Sandra's mad theory, would weaken the Coroner's offensive abilities, giving the Type Zeroes a window to punch through. One set of minions had even been diverted to the drone swarm, curious as to its significance. There was no more time to waste.
"Defect!" Sandra shouted.
Many of the cobbled-together drones did, indeed, have defects. More than a hundred-thousand lasers shined harmlessly on the Antagonists, despite them looking nothing, even remotely, like the intended target. This did, to the drones credit, have some tactical significance, causing several of the Antagonists to pause momentarily, as if having a mid-flight crisis as to the purpose of their attack.
The remaining eight-hundred ninety-four thousand, two-hundred twelve drones correctly defected to the Antagonist side, painting the No 1 Valkyrie with their primitive laser pointers. At the height of Anna's flight, the lasers were wide-spread and attenuated, though the nearly million simultaneous attacks did require a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of her impeller to be diverted towards shutting down the glare. Gazing down angrily at the distracting drones and the mastermind whom, she knew, had orchestrated this, Anna turned her swirling attacks toward the greater threats, by far: the Class C's and B in front of her. She would deal with the Crafting Club's latest annoyance at her leisure.
One of the Class C's made a wiggle that, had the Cryptology Club enough data to translate it, would have roughly approximated to "Oh, shit!" In the after-action investigation, it was speculated that that particular Antagonist had possessed some sort of precognitive ability.
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It's the old bag-of-rats tactic updated!
Not much of a one unless she manages to salvage their higgs generator and keeps it.
Remember that Valk cores' rate of enhancement/self improvement is from necessity/pressure of use. Anna is currently beyond class E Type Zeros so its not truly going to be a pressing battle. All the more so due to TRE.
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That would be TRE in action. She's always more efficient against groups of sub-class-C opponents.
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... And now I'm imagining the inevitable crossover fanfiction between Valkyrie Core and Halo.
Something something reflecting energy projectors back into space and such?
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See I don't think you really believe this sound argument because neither of the previous options would become proper Dakka if we put a speaker on that played machine gun noises.
If we really go back to where the word came from I think it was Warhammer 40K and in that case we see that answer is that Dakka is a mix of how long it would take to destroy some arbitrary target and the Flashiness of how you do it. Hence why a Lightning Canon can be considered Dakka even if it actually goes 'BZZT' or something else.
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Oh and Dakka also has to be at a distance because doing it in melee is being Stompier.
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It was WH40K Orks, and the term is onomatopoeia for the sound a slug-thrower makes. Explosive weapons are Bomms, not Dakka. BZZT counts because it is really fast Dakka. This is also getting off topic.
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The question of, "What is the true nature of dakka" is a derail and of no relevance to the thread.
Cut it out.
Cut it out.
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Rule 4: Don’t Be Disruptive
So a Bolter is not Dakka?
Dakka is never off topic.
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One minor quibble: those laser pointers would likely just get absorbed by Anna's solar dynamos. Which makes the plan double genius, naturally.
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We've been asked to stop. So stop.
Meaning Sandra came up with it, so that is only to be expected.
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*Sandra, sitting in a lawn chair while sipping tea*:
"All according to plan."
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rule 4: tragically, dakka is in fact off-topic
Tragically, Dakka is in fact off-topic.
You were asked to stop and didn't, so you've been infracted under rule 4. Let that be the end of it, and take dakka talk to another thread.
Tragically, Dakka is in fact off-topic.
You were asked to stop and didn't, so you've been infracted under rule 4. Let that be the end of it, and take dakka talk to another thread.
Eventually, sure she could. We dont know how much time it would take her to make a useful amount of the stuff though.
It does also point to the trust in her judgment that she's not going to cause collateral damage with it; Anna can shrug off point blank nuclear bombardment, but many other things and people can't.
Fair point.
Worth noting that Anna having 200/200 Energy Efficiency is a relatively recent development.
There's a good chance the UN don't actually know that she can do that, just as they didn't know that her HPPs could shoot over(or more accurately, through) the horizon with minimal attenuation of payload.
After all, the Demolitions class did not consider direct matter to antimatter conversion as a demo tactic.
Time basically.
Same reason EOD specialists get issued with custom explosives instead of being expected to make their own from field expedients.
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I am banning this. Won't work, nope. Not allowed.
Would totally have worked under the dice system.
reeeee
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Because that'll defeat the purpose of the Academy unless they decide to turbospecialize. As stated when Anna went to the class, that's simply beyond the class' curriculum. Since the requirement for it is not only that the Valk is good enough to be able to do Advanced Impeller Skills, but also that they trained it to a decent level.
Also, as written, it isn't exactly direct conversion since it go to energy form first, but that's semantics.