If there was one thing I'd wish for, it would be Anna's reaction to this. Sadly, things skipped straight to Koujirou's fight.

Thing is, there was no reaction from Anna. She didn't watch it, only her commento-bot did while she was distracting herself with electrons.

I edited - first half GDI project valkyrie studios, why do you spend half a season on a bloody tourney arc, and blow through the budget before half the matches in the first bracket?

You forget that this is made by Studio Gilgamesh. They haven't even begun to dent their treasury, mongrels! :V

Reading through the update again. As a fun exercise I'm trying to think of how the 'civil war' *cough*Anna causing havoc*cough* between Saskatoon and Fairbanks info could be inserted as a sort of a Chekhov's Gun that could be brought up later to be linked to Anna? Maybe Koujirou gets curious about the Alaska Offensive after the simulation and stumbles on the article about it that's on the latest update? Or Koujirou talking to Yukari about the offensive and her offhandedly telling him about the conflict?

Bonus points, eventually they tell Anna about it as part of some remedial history lessons, only for her to go 'wait what? I spent years up there, the AGs didn't fight each other even once,' in puzzlement. Cue the viewers getting a dawning idea of what actually happened and shitting all their bricks, before switching rapidly into 'nope, can't be, that's impossible, we must be misunderstanding this' denial mode.
 
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You forget that this is made by Studio Gilgamesh. They haven't even begun to dent their treasury, mongrels!
Storyboarding however - if the first two fights take up a third of the episodes afforded to the tournament arc, and one of them involve characters that have only had bit pieces prior to now...
 
Storyboarding however - if the first two fights take up a third of the episodes afforded to the tournament arc, and one of them involve characters that have only had bit pieces prior to now...

I am choosing to believe that, much like the updates in our universe, the length of time between episodes in the other universe is strangely longer than usual.

Project Valkyrie Core: Worth the admittedly long wait.
 
Each of those rounds was at least an episode of (admittedly glorious) animation. Tell me otherwise.

The first went four episodes, probably with at least one episode of this update to handle the pre fight setup and one intermission episode. Six episodes before we got to Kojis first bout. Then three or more episodes of that.
Then they wrap up Setsunas three fights mostly off screen in one episode (real-time with no cuts) and mostly skip Sandras.

Admittedly, long panning shots of the audience working on their analysis of the fights and talking among themselves about it to help infodumps probably padded it a bit more than was strictly necessary but visuals alone don't really convey the full complexity of Valkyrie combat and this way of conveying exposition was pretty amusing.
 
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What's more likely is that there might be only 1 male alive up there
Even after the literal end of the world, it's still a bloody harem anime. :mad:

But nah, like it's been said, Armstrong was untouched and plenty of G-Com's personnel survived, both of whom still have access to all of their resources, so they shouldn't have too many problems in that regard. Though I really didn't think very hard about Sandra's hypothetical post-war empire, since it wasn't important to the story. She did mean it when she said she'd be nice about it though. :lol

Aside from being tonally horrendously inconsistent and weird, the main issue was the weird characterisation. And I don't just mean the characters acting literally nothing like themselves in any way whatsoever, it's also that the premise requires the entirety of the UN HQ being the stupidest people to ever exist in human history.

The Antagonists have made a concerted effort to exterminate humanity for decades, and have never ever responded to any communication from humanity. (Except with viral data streams) It would be obvious to literally everyone that any peace is solely a pragmatic measure that will be revoked the very instant they develop countermeasures for whatever threat forced them to make the play.

The UN might agree to peace under those circumstances, but not as a mere Armistice, they'd only accept something like that if it were an actual surrender on the Antags part. Including total disarmament. Because anything else would be preposterously moronic.

There's also the weird thing of having a humaniform Antag with Anime cliches which doesn't remotely match the tone of the rest of the piece.

And the asinine stupidity of the anti-WF defence. If a countermeasure would cause your own forces more destruction than not using it. i.e. A countermeasure that apparently eradicates your entire species, then they wouldn't use it. Obviously. Contrived plot hole you could drop a planet through.

Also don't forget Dr Strangelove was released in 1964. It's a freaking old movie. I know I haven't seen it, and a lot of other people won't have either.
Which works for the reference, but still doesn't work for the setting. Even stretching things considerably the Human/Antag conflict doesn't remotely map onto US/Russia Cold War.

I appreciate what you're trying to do, but the setting is simply an abysmal match for it.
I uh... *waves hands indistinctly* Caitlin was really convincing? :V

But no, you're right, there really are far too many handwaves for it to hold up as a story. To be honest, and I know this doesn't justify anything, this was never meant to be anything more than a blatant transplant of the movie's plot into the BAHH setting; it was supposed to be a short joke piece, maybe 10,000 words at most, as something to have a laugh with the thread about over Christmas. But then the outline alone was 7K words, and then the Avalanche Syndrome just kept spiralling from there...

As for the countermeasure being stupid, maybe. But from the AGs' perspective, if the UN started using the G-Gun to blow up all the Breaches, they'd be pretty fucked. At least this way, the UN would have to think twice before using it. (And then of course they didn't tell anyone about it, but that's just part of the Strangelove package.)

I also don't really agree that AG Caitlin's existence is that out of place. I mean, this is an anime setting. And Caitlin being an AG is something that's come up in the thread before.

Anyway, thanks for the feedback. I appreciate the thought.

Each of those rounds was at least an episode of (admittedly glorious) animation. Tell me otherwise.

The first went four episodes, probably with at least one episode of this update to handle the pre fight setup and one intermission episode. Six episodes before we got to Kojis first bout. Then three or more episodes of that.
Then they wrap up Setsunas three fights mostly off screen in one episode and mostly skip Sandras.
I want to believe. :cry:


EDIT: It occurs to me that, at 35K words, I now have the longest post in the thread.

Don't get any ideas now @Avalanche ;)
 
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Each of those rounds was at least an episode of (admittedly glorious) animation. Tell me otherwise.

The first went four episodes, probably with at least one episode of this update to handle the pre fight setup and one intermission episode. Six episodes before we got to Kojis first bout. Then three or more episodes of that.
Then they wrap up Setsunas three fights mostly off screen in one episode (real-time with no cuts) and mostly skip Sandras.

Admittedly, long panning shots of the audience working on their analysis of the fights and talking among themselves about it to help infodumps probably padded it a bit more than was strictly necessary but visuals alone don't really convey the full complexity of Valkyrie combat and this way of conveying exposition was pretty amusing.

Eh, I don't know. The four Millia-vs.-Victoria matches aren't all that long, all told, at least in terms of temporal duration. That, plus the various introductory bits beforehand... I could see it taking between a half and one hour, roughly. Depending on Episode lengths, that's anywhere between three (one set-up, two with two fights each) and one (for a three-quarters- or whole-hour episode). Narratively, too, the first four matches mostly serve to introduce the battlefields and their rules of engagement - except of course, for the fifth Battlefield, the Hive Core, which is kept in reserve for a suitably climactic moment later on.

The Koujirou fights I could see taking up half or whole episodes each, particularly the first two, which were relatively tactical hide-and-seek affairs. But then, he's the main character.
 
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I figure the first four have a bit of expeditionary padding because animation isn't as good at infodumping about what we're seeing. Kojirous duels are obviously shown from a focus mostly on him so probably a bit less exposition and the first four introduced most of the non Koji specific capabilities (including most of the not obvious tricks used by his Opponent).


Edit: I also had an impulse that the Hot Valk on Valk Action omake was a school project movie where the main cast and other cadets got roped in and played their parts to the hilt.
Except Anna. Most of her bits is just edited footage from a simulator run, with a bit of CGI for the story bits and most of the off the wall 'how is this even' toned down a bit.
 
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Uh folks, post faster. We got to get past page number 666 as fast as we can.

Also, @Avalanche, is part 2 of the tournament arc the place where we will again have choices to pick?
 
Anna at her worst, admittedly.

I mean...sort of?

But if it's Anna at her worst it's also Anna at her Best. It's Real Anna, whilst we normally get Diet Anna.

Real Anna might be horrendously cynical and bitter, but...she's also the one against things that hurt people and the one that was elated by an Instructor managing Wave Force.
 
Cont. on the HVoVA was a student film theory - I think Sandra was conned by the director. (Also a Strangelove homage.)
She wanted to play the role tragically, tortured and serious. Director disagreed, but couldn't convince her, but in the end agreed to do two takes. In the real take, Sandra played her role as she imagined it.

In the joke take, she played like an evil, megalomaniacal smug mastermind.

The director used the joke take.

Sandra sicced Anna on her.
 
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Anna becoming more able to handle humans fighting humans is an utter tragedy. Inter-human strife should be looked down upon harshly, and becoming more able to deal with it honestly feels like Anna moving in a worse direction.
 
her second mistake as Anna can't hurt humans. besides Sandra has Shuri for that
e: it must be very late in the series though if the G-Gun is unclassified

Sandra wanted to punish the director. Not hurt her.
She told Anna a basic synopsis of the plot and pointed out the director as the one responsible.
Anna deployed tactical puppydog eyes and strategically disappointed pouting.


Edit: in regards to the second point, Shuri was indisposed, unable to control her incandescense at the time. Fortunately for the director and crew the movie was never screened outside the academy due to the censors.
 
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Anna becoming more able to handle humans fighting humans is an utter tragedy. Inter-human strife should be looked down upon harshly, and becoming more able to deal with it honestly feels like Anna moving in a worse direction.
Wut.
As is, Anna can't differentiate between Strife, Sport and Spar without getting triggered. Her being able to do so is mandatory for her mental health. The issue here is how she goes on doing it.
 
Anna becoming more able to handle humans fighting humans is an utter tragedy. Inter-human strife should be looked down upon harshly, and becoming more able to deal with it honestly feels like Anna moving in a worse direction.
I agree with Alphaleph. Wut? Dude, what are you smoking? There is literally no way to avoid human competition, both healthy and unhealthy. And Anna doesn't even see the difference between healthy and unhealthy competition in the first place, which is supremely unhealthy.
 
Durga knows that it doesn't know how to human, and is aware and autonomous enough to try to aim what it thinks what someone else would consider a healthy mind set. It's likely basing it's goal off of memories of Anna's mother and a text book understanding, but the fact that it's trying is ground breaking.
Durga just being aware that it doesn't know how to fix things is a massive improvement over most other Valks.
So is no one talking about what we learning about Kandakara? Durga really only gives out hints but Kandakara is completely sapient and is trying to actively communicate with Koujirou.
It's not having any better luck than everyone trying to get into his pants, despite the fact that sometimes Kandakara is literally his pants.
So what is Setsuna going to say when she realizes Ko-chan missed all her figths?
The earth trembled, the sky shattered, the oceans boiled, the sun and the stars grew dark. Across the land there rang a cry of "BAKA!"
The director used the joke take.
If we're being completely serious here, Australia should be the one with the joke takes, since it was the general in the War Room who did all the over-the-top stuff while Ripper spent the entire movie talking in a calm and level voice. Also, like Buck, Australia is able to go "Oh. That would be really bad, we shouldn't do that."
 
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