- Location
- California
Advice and Trust [NGE]
- Location
- Texas
Well, Misato has got to know killing Shinji would be a death sentence for her. So the next step would be to weigh whether or not her revenge against the Angels would be worth her own life. Add the lives of Shinji and Rei on top of that, and that Asuka would probably not want to go on living even after she beat Misato to death, and maybe they can talk her down while she's deciding whether or not it's worth it.
And as mentioned, Rei's AT field is the ace in the hole. All Misato can do at this point is THINK about the consequences of what she does next.
And as mentioned, Rei's AT field is the ace in the hole. All Misato can do at this point is THINK about the consequences of what she does next.
- Location
- Not your place of residence
I agree with the rest of it, but Misato's NOT in her right mind right now. If she's thinking straight, then she's dropping the gun and going straight for a beer or twelve because there's no way she could win if Kaworu decided to act hostile. She already shot once, and I wouldn't be surprised (assuming Rei, Shinji, and Asuka weren't in the room) if she shot Kaworu as many times as she had bullets left in the clip. And then reloaded and started shooting again. Obviously not happening with the intervention, but that doesn't mean that Misato's acting logically right now.
- Location
- Texas
I was specifically referring to the scenario of Misato firing through Shinji to hit Kaworu. In general, you're right, she would not even care that Kaworu (or Rei) is an Angel and thus shooting him isn't going to have much effect.
Of course, she's seen Kaworu taken down by a bullet, so she may hope she gets lucky.
Of course, she's seen Kaworu taken down by a bullet, so she may hope she gets lucky.
- Location
- Online
... ... ...I'm amazed no one here made the obvious joke.
Wixelt
NGE Fic plan 480 pages and counting...
- Location
- England, UK
- Pronouns
- He/They
...okay, now you've made me curious. What is the obvious joke here.
- Location
- Earth, Sol System, Virgo Supercluster, Earth-1218
The only thing that comes to my mind is along the lines of "Stop making faces at yourself / stop talking to yourself"...okay, now you've made me curious. What is the obvious joke here.
- Location
- United States
Heeeeeeey~...okay, now you've made me curious. What is the obvious joke here.
If nobody else was gonna make the Nobody dies reference, I'll take it.
- Location
- Online
"Lilith is always watching" plus "Asuka and Shinji don't get much sleep at night" equals Lilith is a pervert....okay, now you've made me curious. What is the obvious joke here.
Honestly the jokes popped into my head before i even read that it was so obvious. The only reason I didn't write them is cause my jokes tend to go wrong. In this case I'd probably get banned.
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...That brought up an interesting thought. How...aware or conscious is Lilith? From what i recall Rei is only a piece of lilith's Soul, so shouldn't Lilith be...well more then a hunk of flesh?
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Seihai-kun
[Unverified Wish Granting Device]
- Location
- Brasil
Ceiling Lilith is watching you masturbate. And do other things too.
- Location
- supernatural
So someone is planning on making a fic in Shinji and Asuka get together after the kiss well and they get into a relationship... buuuut this does not cause things to go well as he plans to show to such a relationship between those two would be dangerously codependent (one of the few kinds of toxic relationships that Eva doesn't really show) if they managed to trust each other enough to actually start a relationship, and the inevitable tragedies are just gonna drive them End of Eva level insane even earlier.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
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- Location
- Chicago, IL
Chronicles!Asuka: "FOR FUCK'S SAKE, WHY DOES THE UNIVERSE HATE US?!"
In all seriousness, that sounds like a concept that would be incredibly depressing, but also potentially a good story if done well. Eva is nothing if not bait for psychoanalysis stories.
BG_Character_592
The Fisherman
- Location
- Australia
There's a reason why she calls her universe the 'tin standard'. It's really not a low bar to clear (at least according to her), and yet the universe continues to give them a tough time. But hey, that just makes the joy they get if they get though it all the greater.
Though in regards to the story idea @brer rabbit mentioned, it'd be interesting to see their dynamic. Since in A&T and in Chronicles, you could already call them codependent as all hell (just a bit more of a positive spin). Hell, I know for a fact Chronicles!Asuka discussed her codependency to Shinji more than once (and at this point, she might feel that for Rei and Kaworu as well); she knows it could be problematic for her but she doesn't care.
I suppose that's another reason you can call them a tumbleweed
But yeah, it'd probably be pretty depressing. Maybe they eventually identify this and try to improve themselves.
Bit of a fools hope I feel; this is Evangelion after all. Though there's usually a silver lining in everything. Don't want to induce DIAA in your audience, after all.
Or maybe you do, it'd still fit Evangelion
- Location
- Texas
This sounds like a good idea if done well. But I am concerned about the possibility that the author is simply trying to sink a hated shipping. If he had already reached a foregone conclusion that such a relationship could never work out, then his story would simply be a self-fulfilling prophesy.
That said, Shinji and Asuka ARE dangerously codependent, and most fans of the pairing wouldn't want to put themselves through the emotional trauma of actually writing the failure of their relationship, and what they would have to go through. Heck, Hiro and Zero Two are codependent, as are Renton and Eureka, Madoka and Homura, and any number of characters from Anime I HAVEN'T watched a million times. It would be pretty heartbreaking to see those relationships fail (or get even worse, in the case of Madokami and Homucifer) but it would be interesting too.
- Location
- United States
While the idea of codependency leading to more trauma is definitely something evangelion would do. (Hello Gendo) A more interesting direction would be them being forced to deal with it in a more constructive way.
Misato: Its getting concerning how much you two feel the need to be in this duel synced eva.
Shinji and Asuka: We dont see an issue.
Misato: Also it's getting creepy how often you two talk together at once. It might be a combination of your prior dependence on each other and a side effect of the syncing process.
Both pilots look to each other before turning to Misato. Completely in sync.
Misato: Rits is already working on the hardware end whereas I'm gonna see if I can get you two a bit of independence. So we get a vacation!
Everyone blinks.
Misato: Kaji, shinji, and Hiro are going to Nevada and Asuka, Zero-Two and I will be heading to Paris. Officially it would be to oversee the construction of new Nerv headquarters, but in reality it's to give an excuse for this vacation.
S&A:What about Rei and Kaworu?
Misato: Eh... we do need active pilots on standby and the exercise would be pointless for them due to them literally being connected by their souls.
A&S: But...
Misato:No buts... This is mandatory and an order.
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BG_Character_592
The Fisherman
- Location
- Australia
That's... actually a pretty interesting idea to explore. Might be a good idea for the future if I could slot it in somewhere
You'll see when I get to it
You certainly can't deny they have some history together.
- Location
- Germany
Well, "history repeating" stories with Shinji becoming like Gendo after losing Asuka have certainly been done before.
Generally speaking, I have a hard time seeing how them getting together, even in an unhealthy manner, could lead to things getting even worse than in canon, unless the author gets very creative to stray far off the canonical path, or just goes for an easy "everyone dies" ending (or makes them overly OOC). Let's see:
- Leliel:
- Zeruel:
- Kaworu: No matter what, Shinji'd still be all about Asuka, so Kaworu wouldn't have as much affect on him.
Generally speaking, I have a hard time seeing how them getting together, even in an unhealthy manner, could lead to things getting even worse than in canon, unless the author gets very creative to stray far off the canonical path, or just goes for an easy "everyone dies" ending (or makes them overly OOC). Let's see:
- Leliel:
a) It could just go as in canon, with Asuka just being a bit less pissed at him surpassing her and more worried as he's gone.
b) With Asuka being happy, Shinji doesn't surpass her, so he doesn't go ahead and it's Asuka being swallowed up.
b.1) Asuka doesn't get out, dies, Shinji goes cray-cray, everyone dies, the end. Rather short one in this case.
b.2) Worried Shinji can't take it, goes after her.
b.2.1) He fails, dies as well, everyone dies, the end.
b.2.2) He/Yui gets them out, things go on.
- Bardiel: Would more than likely just go as in canon. At most Shinji would be even more hesitant to fight EVA-03, if Asuka told him it's Toji (depending if she would even know if she doesn't have a reason to visit Kaji that time).- Zeruel:
a) Shinji stays in the Bard aftermath for Asuka's sake.
a.1) He's not allowed to fight immediately anyway -> goes pretty much the same as canon
a.2) He's fighting immediately along with Asuka. Still Zeruel is too much anyway.
a.2.1) Zeruel wins, everyone dies, the end.
a.2.2) Asuka gets down first, Shinji's anger triggers berserk mode -> goes pretty much the same as canon
b) Asuka leaves with Shinji.
b.1) They don't come back, Zeruel wins, everyone dies, the end.
b.2) They come back, get into their individual EVAs -> a.2)
b.3) They come back, both get into EVA-02 (cause Rei went in 01?), no berserk, Zeruel wins, everyone dies, the end.
b.4) They come back, both get into EVA-01 (cause Rei went in 02?)
b.4.1) No berserk due to interference, Zeruel wins, everyone dies, the end
b.4.2) Berserk, both are swallowed up
c) Shinji leaves without Asuka - unlikely if the setting is them being codependent on each other, but would probably just be same as canon.
- Zeruel aftermath:a) Zeruel went as canon: Asuka is more distraught at Shinji being gone for a month (unless love get's him out early or something, but I don't think he really had that much influence over that), but probably wouldn't do anything too drastic as she knows they working on extracting him, so she'd keep up until the first attempt at least.
b) Following Z b.4.2:
b.1) Both get extracted -> goes on as canon.
b.2) They love being together like that and decide to stay inside forever -> Angels win, everyone dies, the end.
b.3) Only one get's extracted, can't go on without the other -> Angels win, everyone dies, the end.
- Arael:a) Goes as in canon, Shinji being more pissed at not being let out to help her.
b) Shinji gets pissed enough to get out to help her. Whether he "just" rescues her, or shields her suffering the same (sharing their pain) -> better than canon?
c) Her time with Shinji makes the ordeal less painful -> better than canon
- Arael aftermath, this could actually be a point where it could get a bit more depressing:a) Asuka doesn't get as down as Shinji's there for her (vice versa in case of A b) -> better than canon
b) Asuka still gets depressed and Shinji doesn't know how to handle it.
b.1) Shinji still does his best, but they stay together, even if she drags him down along with her.
b.2) They have a fight and might even split up. Their still remaining longing for the other due to their codependency makes this all the harder on them.
b.2.1) They make up again along the way -> better than canon?
b.2.2) Leads them on pretty much the same path as canon.
b.2.3) Goes as far as Asuka actually managing/going through to kill herself. Shinji's even more down, if he doesn't follow right away, he's on EoE level earlier. Angels/SEELE win, everyone dies, the end.
- Armisael:a) Goes as canon
b) If Asuka is still happy and ready to go, may alternatively go as RE-TAKE without the "godly intervention". See Aa b.2.3)
- Armisael aftermath: If Asuka's still happy/around, Shinji may take the revelation better, otherwise as canon.- Kaworu: No matter what, Shinji'd still be all about Asuka, so Kaworu wouldn't have as much affect on him.
a) Asuka is still fine. Shinji'd still be hesitant to kill a humanoid Angel, but he wouldn't be quite as down as having to kill someone who loved him.
b) Asuka is gone.
b.1) Shinji's down enough that he just let's Kaworu go. Angels win, everyone dies, the end
b.2) Shinji's uncaring about anything other than Asuka, kills him with little remorse.
EoE:a) Asuka is still fine. They fight together from the start.
a.1) They win -> better than canon
a.2) MP's take Shinji/both down, everyone dies, the end
a.3) MP's take Asuka down - well, Shinji already wants to end the world after seeing her dying, so -> same as canon
b) Asuka is gone. Everyone dies/same as canon.
So yeah, seems at most only as bad as canon to me. The only worse variant would be one of them dying, but then you'd be left with a story with only half of the relationship it was supposed to be about.
- Location
- Canada
In regards to the Kaworu part, that reminds me of another fic "Neon Genesis Evangelion Deviance". When Kaworu is fought, Both Shinji and Asuka are in unit 1. When Kaworu has to be killed, Asuka does the deed to spare Shinji at least some of the pain. It is still hard on him.
Wixelt
NGE Fic plan 480 pages and counting...
- Location
- England, UK
- Pronouns
- He/They
Am particularly fond of this couple of key points, because I can 100% see Shinji and Asuka being so dependent on one another that, when faced with the opportunity of spending an eternity body-less in each others' embrace, under Yui's protective eye (her son's happy with someone he loves deeply) and without need to ever really worry or fear ever again, they cease to care about the fate of the outside world, causing early EoE under the power of Zeruel or those afterward. Whether Unit-01 would survive such a thing with them inside it is another matter entirely, but if it does they've got eternity together, and if not they won't exactly know about it, so either way that's a moot point.
I kind of want to see a fic like this now, where, countless years after such an incident (caused either by choice or, alternatively, by Berserk trapping them so deeply not even Yui can free them), a fluke accident ejects the pair from the still functional core of a largely ruined Unit-01 (perhaps shielded from harm by a knowing Kaworu, or something to that effect), into a world with no humans left and Adamite giants, however few and far between, roaming the continents like titans of immense presence. How they'd survive in such a world is another matter, but it kind of takes the "post-EoE fic" formula and twists it both to be set earlier, through point of divergence, and later, through actual chronology, at the same time, so the concept is interesting either way. Perhaps in a world where they're the only children of Lilith left, the background Adamite energy from this timeline's 3rd Impact's aftereffects has... some kind of non-lethal effect on them? I don't know. Could be fun.
That does segue me into another idea, though. Take the initial idea of the pair getting trapped together and apply it to something resembling the Rebuild continuity with more pre-timeskip development and possibly Asuka not getting hospital'd by Bardiel's invasion. The duo, together in Unit-01, witness Rei get nommed by Zeruel, and having developed a connection with her similar, though not identical, to the one from over here in A&T, basically play out Shinji's limit break from 2.0, except it's both of them together. Result's basically the same, and the pair awake (as much as we all hate on it) to a world that hates them over a decade later. Because it's both of them together, maybe they actually save Rei/she's retrieved with them, but that's preference.
Personally, I like the world of Adam idea better, but that might just be because the other's Rebuild, though still interesting.
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- Location
- Brazil
So... Shadow of Colossus!Eva? (I've never actually played the game, mind you, but I know about the basic premise).
EDIT: And to add something actually useful: that world actually sounds interesting, but what do you figure Asuka and Shinji would (or could) do in such a place? Would they try to reverse the Third Impact? Would they just be Adam and Eve in a world of giants? Maybe they could use that as a motivation for a dimensional/space travel to a world more human-friendly, if one wants to give them the means to actually do those travels.
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- Location
- Australia, mate
Hmm.
Early Third Impact thanks to Big Z. Asuka and Shinji eventually get out of Unit-01 due to... something. Adamites roam the entire world, they could be giants or more human-sized. Perhaps human-sized so that Asuka and Shinji can be reasonably expected to battle them with some Lilithian gifts. Despairing at what has happened, they get visited by Lilith. She speaks of a special plot device hidden in, let's say NERV Berlin. If the two of them can retrieve it, Lilith can transfer the souls of humanity into it and then they can try to escape Earth to find a new home elsewhere.
Alternatively the plot device is a magic reset button. It takes time to warm up, and it attracts Adamites. Cue heroic last stand as Asuka and Shinji pull out all the stops, fighting for the survival of humanity. Eventually they get overwhelmed, just as the plot device begins to activate. The two of them die at the last s-
"We're sorry, due to the state of special emergency, no lines are currently available. This is a recording."
Ranma-sensei
Sorcerer
- Location
- Citrix Receiver
- Pronouns
- Weatherdependent
"Oh, for frak's sake!" Shinji slams the receiver into the cradle.
Across the world, Asuka gets a door to the face.
Across the world, Asuka gets a door to the face.
TheShiningSun
*Waits for Polyphemus Ch. 16*
- Location
- Practically the middle of Germany
"Aua! Meine Nase!" *curses heavily in German*
But I'm confused. Why does Asuka get a door to the face?