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They might have gone into the Warrior, to represent how a ton of stuff that they would have been doing is another department.
A Different Breed (Warhammer 29K)
They might have gone into the Warrior, to represent how a ton of stuff that they would have been doing is another department.
Alectai
Speaks Words of Wisdom... On occasion
I sure fucking hope not, I'd have loved to have known that we'd Lose Steward AP there, but we can manage if it comes down to it.
My view is that we should Enhance Industry and backload the Engines, as the engines only work when everything is done.
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Stewardship
- move existing councils 5 AP
- contact Stel-Uit or Lal'c-Tann
Bonesinger
just posted about this.
seer
- all in on eye of Tzeench to teach Kairos that he isn't allowed to have nice things.
warrior
should start standardizing a carrier ship hull, with mind towards limited weapons and many slots. I'd say a capitol ship would do best.
My previous post on warrior has several detailed orders for fleets that should allow us to scavenge Kronite, ectosa, defend fea eresh, and make massive progress on our webway scouting before we are tied up investigating two missing craft worlds.
- move existing councils 5 AP
- contact Stel-Uit or Lal'c-Tann
Bonesinger
just posted about this.
seer
- all in on eye of Tzeench to teach Kairos that he isn't allowed to have nice things.
warrior
should start standardizing a carrier ship hull, with mind towards limited weapons and many slots. I'd say a capitol ship would do best.
My previous post on warrior has several detailed orders for fleets that should allow us to scavenge Kronite, ectosa, defend fea eresh, and make massive progress on our webway scouting before we are tied up investigating two missing craft worlds.
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I mean, it might be a typo.
It might also be that we are halfway through revamping the department.
It might also be that we are halfway through revamping the department.
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Really want to shift some AP to Arach-Qin's shipyards slowly, it's part of the promise for their ship and depending on timing might avoid picking up more turns of repairing ships with AP.
Also the sooner it's done the sooner they're making new ships without use spending effort
Also the sooner it's done the sooner they're making new ships without use spending effort
I actually kinda want to put AP into nurgles curse. the other two we have some form of work around, with Kairos, knowing is good because we know he plays interference, so that lets us pick our use cases with out sight. With slanessh we already have some idea of what to do to mitigate it.
nurgles curse? its the most dangerous kind of active curse, Its working slowly in real time to hurt our population growth and even worse, Promote stagnation. How much does that word, can we work around it, what can be done can we even measure what its doing? We really need to start getting a picture of it because this is the one that is slow, but working all the time, compared to slannesh which can be worked around with soulstones and such.
nurgles curse? its the most dangerous kind of active curse, Its working slowly in real time to hurt our population growth and even worse, Promote stagnation. How much does that word, can we work around it, what can be done can we even measure what its doing? We really need to start getting a picture of it because this is the one that is slow, but working all the time, compared to slannesh which can be worked around with soulstones and such.
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Alright. If we have 7 points, I propose that 5 go into unfucking the department and the remaining 2 get thrown into vault delving, in the hopes we can hand out goodies to hero units and start upgrading them. As well as increasing power and survival, presumably.
If it turns out we have an extra three, I think throw that into diplomatic council. The food situation isn't urgent, and I'd rather have a functioning diplomatic department that leave it to Not-Feanor. Even if he's significantly more competent at it than the Silm version. Which he seems to be.
If it turns out we have an extra three, I think throw that into diplomatic council. The food situation isn't urgent, and I'd rather have a functioning diplomatic department that leave it to Not-Feanor. Even if he's significantly more competent at it than the Silm version. Which he seems to be.
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I think it's cause there all gathering there stuff to move into the stewardship hall. building it has them primed to move in and their less functional in the meantime.
regrettably we should probably take it and start diplomacy with Stel-Uit or Lal'c tan since we can't take the 3 AP diplomacy option with how little we have. relics will have to wait. stel-uit would be best since they could ally with someone else this turn otherwise.
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I mean, I love the potential of the Scrambler Fields, but grenades are probably more practical in the short term, and is probably easy to add to forces expected to need them.
Problem with that is that we'll be permanently crippling our diplomacy capabilities because it will lock out Create Diplomatic Councils.
[] Plan Basic Draft
- [] Stewards
-- [] Move Existing Councils (5 AP)
-- [] Manage Diplomatic Affairs (2 AP)
- [] Bonesingers
-- [] Enhance Industry x 3 (9 AP)
-- [] Seer Circle (4 AP + 2 x Forge of Vaul)
-- [] Continue ship repair (1 AP)
-- [] Continue ship refits (1 AP)
- [] Seers
-- [] The Eye of Tzeentch (10 AP)
- [] Seekers
-- [] Grav-Gun Hybridization
--- [] Simple Hybridization (3 AP)
--- [] Perfect Hybridization (6 AP)
-- [] Reverse-engineer Haywire Weapons
--- [] Scrambler Fields (3 AP)
- [] Warriors
-- [] The Burden of Command (1 AP)
-- [] Chassis Militization x4 (8AP)
-- [] Develop Refit Profiles (1 AP)
Idea is to
1) get more Stewardship AP for next turn
2) to start improving industry substantially. I think we should keep this proportion of BAP invested in Enhance Industry until we start seeing diminishing returns
3) To get the next tier of Seer infrastructure before we scry again
4) To keep pushing on the Curse of Tzeentch as hard as possible
5) As we now know we have some breathing space, to make both a mid grade grav gun and a high value for one for elites, and as we're making grav gund, we may as well make haywire defences
6) To upgrade all our vehicle chassis, getting this out of the way
7) To refit our militiat
- [] Stewards
-- [] Move Existing Councils (5 AP)
-- [] Manage Diplomatic Affairs (2 AP)
- [] Bonesingers
-- [] Enhance Industry x 3 (9 AP)
-- [] Seer Circle (4 AP + 2 x Forge of Vaul)
-- [] Continue ship repair (1 AP)
-- [] Continue ship refits (1 AP)
- [] Seers
-- [] The Eye of Tzeentch (10 AP)
- [] Seekers
-- [] Grav-Gun Hybridization
--- [] Simple Hybridization (3 AP)
--- [] Perfect Hybridization (6 AP)
-- [] Reverse-engineer Haywire Weapons
--- [] Scrambler Fields (3 AP)
- [] Warriors
-- [] The Burden of Command (1 AP)
-- [] Chassis Militization x4 (8AP)
-- [] Develop Refit Profiles (1 AP)
Idea is to
1) get more Stewardship AP for next turn
2) to start improving industry substantially. I think we should keep this proportion of BAP invested in Enhance Industry until we start seeing diminishing returns
3) To get the next tier of Seer infrastructure before we scry again
4) To keep pushing on the Curse of Tzeentch as hard as possible
5) As we now know we have some breathing space, to make both a mid grade grav gun and a high value for one for elites, and as we're making grav gund, we may as well make haywire defences
6) To upgrade all our vehicle chassis, getting this out of the way
7) To refit our militiat
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MagnificentMind
To Live is to Suffer
Love this, not only because I despise the Lord of Flies, but also because it makes the head canon I wrote a while back more likely to be true. To me at least.
I just love the idea of Eldar taking particularly long baths and spa treatments to spite Nurgle. Seemed like something they would do and what the Harlequins would wholeheartedly promote.
Finally, we get conversion field technology, been waiting for that.
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No, food isn't an issue. We have multiple turns until we even have to worry about starting rationing, and we will finish helping the Isha dryad eldars by then, which will probably solve it completely
We don't have anything that is SCREAMING thats its required. Combi Grav is cool, Meson blasters are deadly, But we don't exactly need MORE expensive superpowerful guns.
Crude Hybrid Combi-guns for something cheap is nice, And TBH I feel like we can afford to put the AP into Scrambler fields. An AOE effect that fucks up missile targeting, Advanced munitions, sensors? That sounds great for our current army of Glass cannons (Because we still are, just less so then most eldar)
Or, Haywire Bombs, Haywire grenades sound fun for our grenade launcher equipped troops to use on vehicles.
Perfect Hybrid Combi-Gravs run into the same problem with meson blasters, Its ANOTHER really expensive super gun. We don't need more of those in all honesty.
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I'm advocating for exploring the vaults instead, but I'm pretty sure it locks us out of it for the turn, not permanently.
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Random thought but how literal is this with 'sees what you see' and 'The Eye of Tzeetch' cause I'm having some crazy ideas like "keep photobombing Kairos with scrying of Solar Flares (bonus points if it's TFS versions lol) to distract him, figuring out ways to scry things without actually using sight, or most crazy of all start blinding all our Seers to start praying to the Blind Seer Ridcully (a Embers in the Dusk character) to just lmao Kairos since he's so second rate he needs eyes to farsee lol :\/
NGL with how efficient foundries are we might actually be able to replace our Militia Assault Squads with Forgefire Squads one for one for our Militia Warhosts if we keep the same detachment counts.
Assuming that 900EP output remains consistent for all armor production you could produce 39-40 Ithilmars per foundry.
That is more than enough for any of our Militia warhosts which have 1 Assault and 1 Heavy detachment with 3 Militia Assault Squads in total (Assaults have 2 squads and Heavies have 1 for 36 troops in total).
We'd then have a few to spare for the 11 Psykers in the Battlecasting detachments that the Heavy Militia warhosts have.
If we choose not to do that even just one Ithilmar foundry sitting there pumping out 39-40 each turn would yield us enough to outfit all our non-Bladedancer Psykers in 2 turns (44 Psykers from the 4 Heavy Militia Warhosts, 14 from the 2 Warhosts with Mech HQ detachments).
Assuming that 900EP output remains consistent for all armor production you could produce 39-40 Ithilmars per foundry.
That is more than enough for any of our Militia warhosts which have 1 Assault and 1 Heavy detachment with 3 Militia Assault Squads in total (Assaults have 2 squads and Heavies have 1 for 36 troops in total).
We'd then have a few to spare for the 11 Psykers in the Battlecasting detachments that the Heavy Militia warhosts have.
If we choose not to do that even just one Ithilmar foundry sitting there pumping out 39-40 each turn would yield us enough to outfit all our non-Bladedancer Psykers in 2 turns (44 Psykers from the 4 Heavy Militia Warhosts, 14 from the 2 Warhosts with Mech HQ detachments).
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*Boggle*
It's significantly more than I thought we would get per turn, and I thought I was being bullish about the things.
I think this is worth noting, though - while both of the production lines we built last turn got set up in a single turn, I expect some of the more complex stuff (Sunblaster Calivers, f'rex, nevermind our exotic equipment) is likely to take more than one turns' investment to set up. And they don't actually produce anything for another turn after that.
Means the Forge is likely to be useful, when the time comes.
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Sunblaster Cavaliers are the same cost as needler rifles, so production rates will probably be similar.
Yeah, generating 1,800 AP of Needlers per turn is massively more efficient than I thought it would be.
It means that you'd have to be crazy or incredibly desperate ever to take the option to build Wargear directly with AP.