- Location
- Somewhere Beyond the Sea
[X] Plan: Spread the refits as wide as possible
I think that exarchs(?) are partialy doing that, but personaly I am still having copium that teacher is aliveThis gives me a probably bad idea. If we were Devas of the pantheon, does that mean that through effort and strife, we could ascend an Eldar to the Position Vaul or one of the other gods once held?
I mean, Big E makes sense honestly. The Shamans who made him up were looking for something to fight off the terrifying horrors of the Warp that were consuming them. If they had even the slightest idea as to what Pariah's or Nulls were, they would see the obvious solution and seek to make one so strong it drove off all warp predators from earth, since they didn't conceive of the thought that they could fight the warp predators off with sheer power.
That they stumbled ass backwards into creating a literal Anathemic Soul to the Warp, who's power is so great he can act as both Psyker and Null is just how absurdly lucky that lot were all told.
Really, i do hope after our initial crises are passed that theres a time skip where the Vulkhari get settled and we get a few great projects to work on before Emps wakes up.
Of course Vaul yet lives. We are Vaul. If we are Devas of the Pantheon, then we are Devas of Vaul, pieces of Him. Doubtless those who devote themselves to one god become more Devas of that god than anything else. And so, as we are Pieces of Vaul, Vaul lives in us. In every hammerstrike, reduced by Slannesh, but still raised through persistence to undertake the needed actions. In every act of creation and invention, Vaul Breathes. In the Salvation of as many of Isha's children as we can, in our actions to aid the Chosen of Isha. Every Invention we create a testament to Vaul's Ingenuity, every refit ship a monument to the divine power whose embers yet burn inside us, every use of the Forge fans the flames in our souls. Every power hammer that breaks the violent Khaine-like orks is wielded by Vaul's fists. Tzeentch's curse specifically targets the Vision of the Eldar, so of course it would be those of the Blind God that would be able to cut through it to discover. Slannesh failed to Kill Vaul, because we yet live, and We Are Vaul.I think that exarchs(?) are partialy doing that, but personaly I am still having copium that teacher is alive
@Mechanis What do you think of this?Of course Vaul yet lives. We are Vaul. If we are Devas of the Pantheon, then we are Devas of Vaul, pieces of Him. Doubtless those who devote themselves to one god become more Devas of that god than anything else. And so, as we are Pieces of Vaul, Vaul lives in us. In every hammerstrike, reduced by Slannesh, but still raised through persistence to undertake the needed actions. In every act of creation and invention, Vaul Breathes. In the Salvation of as many of Isha's children as we can, in our actions to aid the Chosen of Isha. Every Invention we create a testament to Vaul's Ingenuity, every refit ship a monument to the divine power whose embers yet burn inside us, every use of the Forge fans the flames in our souls. Every power hammer that breaks the violent Khaine-like orks is wielded by Vaul's fists. Tzeentch's curse specifically targets the Vision of the Eldar, so of course it would be those of the Blind God that would be able to cut through it to discover. Slannesh failed to Kill Vaul, because we yet live, and We Are Vaul.
, but gods are rarely fully good or evil. This is because of one key fact: naturally occurring gods never lose any of their themes or domains, unless specifically stolen by a different god; they simply have different aspects emphasized or deemphasised and new ones added as their story mutates and changes through different forms and people's worship.
I believe the usually accepted explaination is that the more extreme manifestations of their emotion (or narrative, in this case), the more power they get. Every angry thought empowers Khorne, but he profits more from absolute frothing berserker rage, every scheme empowers Tzeentch, but he profits more from balls-to-the-walls 12-step-plan to become Lord Solar, etc.So did the pantheon of chaos just get caught in some kind of evil feedback loop, or is there another reason they seem to be purely malicious?
they were born from the absolute madness and horror of the War In Heaven, when the titanic struggle between the Old Ones and their servant-races and the Necrons and their C'tan masters set the galaxy on fire, past, present and future. That lot made the Great Time War between the Dalaks and the Timelords look like a schoolyard scuffle and the modern galaxy is still dealing with the fallout even in the forty-first millennia. Tzeench at his core is the Madness of a war that encompassed past, present and future, where precognitives dueled time-travelers in an endless information war, where reinforcements could just as easily come from the distant past or far future and vanish as the very probability of their existence was erased---and his self-defeating plots within plans within schemes that are always exactly as planned and never as planned at the same time is a reflection of this. Khorne is the Horror of War: pointless and endless, fighting for the sake of fighting, no victory ever achievable, just more blood, more death, more sacrifice, more, more, MORE!---such is the Lord of Skulls. Nurgle is the Ruination of War: sacrificing everything you once held dear to live one more day, one more minute, one more heartbeat, only for it to amount to nothing in the end as all turns to rot anyway, and the black despair of a war with no hope.So did the pantheon of chaos just get caught in some kind of evil feedback loop, or is there another reason they seem to be purely malicious?
So by this metric, Grandfather Nurgle might be the youngest of the elder 3?Nurgle is the Ruination of War: sacrificing everything you once held dear to live one more day, one more minute, one more heartbeat, only for it to amount to nothing in the end as all turns to rot anyway, and the black despair of a war with no hope.
They're evil and cancerous because their core concepts are rooted in evil, cancerous things, and that remains true no matter how much good they subsume.
TBH Black Hole Flak Fields sound REALLY cool...So question for the thread, now that we've got grav and plasma weapons will we be sticking with las based point defences for our ships or will we be switching over to plasma or singularity based point defences?
Imagine if we get blackstone cannonsOh yeah @Mechanis , speaking of Delving the Vaults, is that just "5 rolls on the gacha a turn" or "5 rolls period"?
Honestly, probably not. It's expensive as fuck. We'll probably do it with some, but considering what forces we're facing right now it's overkill. Right now only a major Ork empire or something like the Rangdan would justify such an expense. It's not a pressing concern until we start seeing signs of the Great Crusade, Necron awakenings, or Dark Eldar.So question for the thread, now that we've got grav and plasma weapons will we be sticking with las based point defences for our ships or will we be switching over to plasma or singularity based point defences?
Kinda curious how Malice/malal factors i into all this, he is the god of nilthistic self destruction and as close to a anti-chaos chaos god as you can't get. Don't know if he is a actually a thing in the au of this quest but I always had soft spot for malice/malal.They're evil and cancerous because their core concepts are rooted in evil, cancerous things, and that remains true no matter how much good they subsume.
Sweet Isha, this is one hell of heroic monologueOf course Vaul yet lives. We are Vaul. If we are Devas of the Pantheon, then we are Devas of Vaul, pieces of Him. Doubtless those who devote themselves to one god become more Devas of that god than anything else. And so, as we are Pieces of Vaul, Vaul lives in us. In every hammerstrike, reduced by Slannesh, but still raised through persistence to undertake the needed actions. In every act of creation and invention, Vaul Breathes. In the Salvation of as many of Isha's children as we can, in our actions to aid the Chosen of Isha. Every Invention we create a testament to Vaul's Ingenuity, every refit ship a monument to the divine power whose embers yet burn inside us, every use of the Forge fans the flames in our souls. Every power hammer that breaks the violent Khaine-like orks is wielded by Vaul's fists. Tzeentch's curse specifically targets the Vision of the Eldar, so of course it would be those of the Blind God that would be able to cut through it to discover. Slannesh failed to Kill Vaul, because we yet live, and We Are Vaul.