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I agree that this would be an optimal solution assuming Homura had fewer emotional hangups.
I would not vote for this solution because I think we need to be careful about preserving her goodwill. In this case that means No Means No.
For greeting the new girls I think we can just fly back.
Karnewarrior
Leastmost of the Hanged Man Arcana
There's also the fact that hammering an instant-win button isn't much fun. From a game design standpoint, that is. Not in universe.
*Extra Credits theme plays*
*Extra Credits theme plays*
SaltyWaffles
I am dissapoint, son
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She never said no. We never even asked.
SaltyWaffles
I am dissapoint, son
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Why would this be an instant-win button?
We're not intending to even get into a fight. And if we do, it would involve bringing the person into the timestop anyway, because we'd need to question her first.
Seriously, what the heck is this?
Always Happening
We could have prevented this.
- Location
- On a train with no brakes
I wholeheartedly advocate relaying how the Kures helped us quash the gang war in Sendai, by the way-- not so the Pleiades can hear it, so much, but so that Sayaka can.
From what I've seen, Homura doesn't consider letting us abuse timestop to be an imposition at all. She's heavily pragmatic and results-oriented: We're her greatest asset every bit as much as she is ours, and she spends all of her time keeping Madoka safe; us fixing everything else helps keep Madoka safe by extension, and we do invaluable networking that she can't. 'Convenience' and 'personal discomfort' are non-factors here.
The Narrator
Disembodied Voice
- Location
- Somewhere Offscreen
For that matter, the vote said that we were going to discuss potential hostiles and strategy in timestop, but we skipped over all that and went straight to Oriko & Kirika. We should take some time in timestop to discuss that stuff and prep some defensive enchantments.
Homura can't walk all the way from Mitakihara to Asunaro on foot.
On a related note: could someone tell me why we're not upgrading Sayaka?
We didn't upgrade her with Sakura's teleport when Rin offered:
We haven't upgraded her with Yuma's healing power, either.
Just now I suggested upgrading her with Kirika's and maybe Oriko's power.
I got five people saying my suggestion was "funny" but that only translated into one vote.
Everyone else who's posted votes has quietly dropped the topic.
What's going on? Why don't we want to do this?
We didn't upgrade her with Sakura's teleport when Rin offered:
We haven't upgraded her with Yuma's healing power, either.
Just now I suggested upgrading her with Kirika's and maybe Oriko's power.
I got five people saying my suggestion was "funny" but that only translated into one vote.
Everyone else who's posted votes has quietly dropped the topic.
What's going on? Why don't we want to do this?
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
[X] Thank Homura. Seriously.
-[X] Bring up the Shiogama girls arrival. Discuss approaches. Perhaps Hitomi or Madoka can help?
[X] Apologize to Sayaka for pulling this.
-[X] Is she OK with it? Offer reassurances as necessary.
[X] Seriously, discuss possible hostile scenarios. It's important.
[X] Remaining in timestop, wake up Oriko and Kirika: Wake them (carefully), explain the situation.
-[X] Ask for their help. They can help make things better.
--[X] Ask Kirika to let Sayaka rockman her power. The more anti-mind-control the better.
[x] Decide how much timestop knowledge you're sharing, or if full obfuscation (pickup from Oriko's?) is best.
[X] Return home. Form vehicle in timestop, minimize real-time used. Disengage timestop, get going.
-[X] Implement Sayaka and O&K pickup plan.
-[X] ENGAGE LUDICROUS SPEED
[X] Give the Pleiades abridged O&K info (Nanoha befriending!), leave Sayaka's involvement to her discretion.
-[X] You have faith O&K truly intend to help.
Condensed Onmur's vote, added some more explicit clarifications on choice of actions.
Precisely 150 words.
-[X] Bring up the Shiogama girls arrival. Discuss approaches. Perhaps Hitomi or Madoka can help?
[X] Apologize to Sayaka for pulling this.
-[X] Is she OK with it? Offer reassurances as necessary.
[X] Seriously, discuss possible hostile scenarios. It's important.
[X] Remaining in timestop, wake up Oriko and Kirika: Wake them (carefully), explain the situation.
-[X] Ask for their help. They can help make things better.
--[X] Ask Kirika to let Sayaka rockman her power. The more anti-mind-control the better.
[x] Decide how much timestop knowledge you're sharing, or if full obfuscation (pickup from Oriko's?) is best.
[X] Return home. Form vehicle in timestop, minimize real-time used. Disengage timestop, get going.
-[X] Implement Sayaka and O&K pickup plan.
-[X] ENGAGE LUDICROUS SPEED
[X] Give the Pleiades abridged O&K info (Nanoha befriending!), leave Sayaka's involvement to her discretion.
-[X] You have faith O&K truly intend to help.
Condensed Onmur's vote, added some more explicit clarifications on choice of actions.
Precisely 150 words.
Muramasa
Best Girl
Hashing dealings with Oriko in proximity to Homura is probably a considerably more difficult affair.
- Location
- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
Perhaps, but not wasting Kazumi's patience by leaving her in the parked
Muramasa
Best Girl
Telepathy is a thing. Would save time.
SaltyWaffles
I am dissapoint, son
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Er, no. Sabrina practically asked Homura to stay. Which is stupid beyond belief.
[X] Redshirt Army
I was hoping for more Sayaka-upgrading than this, but it looks like this is what's available.
Does the whole post have to be 150 words max? It looks like just the write-in section has a limit. I may have been counting wrong.
(Also the limit is 200 words.)
This part seems to lack a decision -- I'm guessing you're planning to edit that in later?
I was hoping for more Sayaka-upgrading than this, but it looks like this is what's available.
Does the whole post have to be 150 words max? It looks like just the write-in section has a limit. I may have been counting wrong.
(Also the limit is 200 words.)
This part seems to lack a decision -- I'm guessing you're planning to edit that in later?
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Karnewarrior
Leastmost of the Hanged Man Arcana
I'd be fine with this (although I still say the focus should be on Sayaka and her Probation Officer duties rather than O&K, but eh), but I'm not sure how you intend to wake O&K from inside timestop? Are we going to fly there, fly back, then fly there again and grab them? That's what it looks like it says.
Just want clarification.
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- The Surface Of A Hostile Planet
The word limit encompasses the whole post. Didn't notice it got raised for this vote though. I'm sure the extra space will be useful when I go back for edits.
It's not Sabrina's decision to make, it's Homura's.
E:
My personal preference would be to fly there, then fly them back with us to the apartment and exit timestop while heading to Asunaro right then.
It'd reveal that we "teleported" Sayaka and Oriko/Kirika over, but we can just say that it's specifics of Homura's power she's not comfortable sharing yet and leave it at that.
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Muramasa
Best Girl
Not really. You can understand why she'd want to stay here and protect Madoka while there's trouble elsewhere right? We already knew Homura has issues having girls she doesn't trust in the timestop. In this scenario she'd be bringing quite a few strangers and would be enemies, not to mention revealing her best trump card. This would be asking quite a lot out of her.
To Homura, the potential gains to be made in Asunaro does not outweigh the risk of leaving Madoka vulnerable in the event things go wrong. That's understandable.
Karnewarrior
Leastmost of the Hanged Man Arcana
[X] Redshirt Army
- Location
- Texas
Man, if I was Homura, I would be very, very worried about ever letting Kazumi into a timestop bubble.
Kazumi is an effects-based power duplicator. One who can copy even things that other power copiers can't, like Sabrina's power with the chibis.
Which means, if you ever give her a chance to see a timestop from the inside, odds are really strong that Kazumi can now use her own version of timestop, and you ain't putting that genie back in the bottle.
The pause button is Homura's major advantage over everybody, and I doubt she's in a hurry to hand it over to some girl she's known casually for a few hours, however cheerful she might be.
Which is a good reason for her to volunteer not to be on this mission.
Kazumi is an effects-based power duplicator. One who can copy even things that other power copiers can't, like Sabrina's power with the chibis.
Which means, if you ever give her a chance to see a timestop from the inside, odds are really strong that Kazumi can now use her own version of timestop, and you ain't putting that genie back in the bottle.
The pause button is Homura's major advantage over everybody, and I doubt she's in a hurry to hand it over to some girl she's known casually for a few hours, however cheerful she might be.
Which is a good reason for her to volunteer not to be on this mission.
Madou Sutegobana
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- Location
- Twin Realms Mandala
How does Niko's cloning work? Would a clone of Sayaka have her power or be an uncontracted potential?
- Location
- USA
I have no idea at all why Yuuma's power would not have been copied from training, and even Sayaka's if it was offered is pretty obvious. But Oriko we absolutely should not try to copy, because we don't want Sayaka to be using it when Oriko herself can't AND is confined to her house still injured because (in part) of Sayaka not wanting to forgive her crimes. Thats pretty much asking for trouble. And largely the same thought on Antimagic... not as bad obviously, but same area of "she swipes their powers so we don't even need to parole them for help, theres no chance of redemption now"
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- Stupid Lucky Time
[X] [Onmur]
Now that I'm caught up, and on a completely unrelated note- Credens Justiam is great and all, and Mirai (Kalafina's cover) is also all well and good.
But for Mami who all but officially has Sabrina by her side now, I feel like this version of her theme is the one to rule them all. Because it reflects her happiness, and dammit, she deserves that happiness.
Also, yeah, maybe let's not have Sayaka copy powers that could 1) break causality, 2) break Sayaka, and/or 3) break anyone's confidence and/or raison d'etre. (With how different Sayaka's powerset is, I wonder how Oktavia would- no, scratch that, I know exactly how she would look.)
Now that I'm caught up, and on a completely unrelated note- Credens Justiam is great and all, and Mirai (Kalafina's cover) is also all well and good.
But for Mami who all but officially has Sabrina by her side now, I feel like this version of her theme is the one to rule them all. Because it reflects her happiness, and dammit, she deserves that happiness.
Also, yeah, maybe let's not have Sayaka copy powers that could 1) break causality, 2) break Sayaka, and/or 3) break anyone's confidence and/or raison d'etre. (With how different Sayaka's powerset is, I wonder how Oktavia would- no, scratch that, I know exactly how she would look.)
Onmur
Archangel of Nutella.
I'd personally drop timestop before picking up O&K. If Sabrina actually feels like hurrying, the O&K telepathy would be done in transit, so this only loses us a couple (2? 5?) minutes, but this way we don't have to do two extra trips and bring O&K into timestop when Homu's... somehow being so generous already. :S
The previous updates, while setting up the emergency situation, don't really carry a sense of immediate urgency: Sabrina's taking her time, hugging her Mami, and generally going about things a tad less quick than I think the previous votes might have implied for.
Added two lines.
[X] Thank Homura. Seriously.
-[X] Tell her she might have to receive the Shiogama girls arriving at 10:00 AM. If so, recommend getting Hitomi's or Madoka's help?
[X] Apologize to Sayaka for pulling this on her first big mission.
-[X] Is she OK with it? Offer reassurances if necessary.
-[X] Ask Homura about having Sayaka wait for us on the roof, to hide her timestop from the Pleiades.
[X] Get moving.
[X] Strike team:
-[X] Mami.
-[X] Sayaka.
-[X] Oriko and Kirika: Wake them, explain the emergency; how important this is for you and for the future.
-[X] Ask for their help. They've proved themselves in our eyes, and we'd appreciate their help a lot.
--[X] Privately: And this could help in ending the house arrest.
[X] Tell the Pleiades about Oriko's lost powers, her criminal actions (details at Sayaka's discretion), the fight, imprisonment, and how they've helped since then (Sendai).
-[X] Personally vouch for them: You believe they want to do better.
[X] Depart for Asunaro once you've got everyone.
-[X] Mention Oriko's visions; segue into talking about possible threats.
The previous updates, while setting up the emergency situation, don't really carry a sense of immediate urgency: Sabrina's taking her time, hugging her Mami, and generally going about things a tad less quick than I think the previous votes might have implied for.
Added two lines.
[X] Thank Homura. Seriously.
-[X] Tell her she might have to receive the Shiogama girls arriving at 10:00 AM. If so, recommend getting Hitomi's or Madoka's help?
[X] Apologize to Sayaka for pulling this on her first big mission.
-[X] Is she OK with it? Offer reassurances if necessary.
-[X] Ask Homura about having Sayaka wait for us on the roof, to hide her timestop from the Pleiades.
[X] Get moving.
[X] Strike team:
-[X] Mami.
-[X] Sayaka.
-[X] Oriko and Kirika: Wake them, explain the emergency; how important this is for you and for the future.
-[X] Ask for their help. They've proved themselves in our eyes, and we'd appreciate their help a lot.
--[X] Privately: And this could help in ending the house arrest.
[X] Tell the Pleiades about Oriko's lost powers, her criminal actions (details at Sayaka's discretion), the fight, imprisonment, and how they've helped since then (Sendai).
-[X] Personally vouch for them: You believe they want to do better.
[X] Depart for Asunaro once you've got everyone.
-[X] Mention Oriko's visions; segue into talking about possible threats.